The best "15 minutes of fame": Douglas, Rahman or Ruiz

Well I really think Ruiz deserves to get this one, Rahman landed a good punch which deserves respect...with Tyson/Douglas..well we know the ref fkd up the count and with Ruiz..I mean come on...he made joshua quit...it's different if he knocked him out, we could say Joshy had bad luck or w.e...but he really made him quit...took his pride..and what does Joshy do? He decides to train his ass off to run a marathon, wow what a revenge :lol1:

Load of rubbish, he doesn't go to Saudi for a second fight and get short changed like that. Total bollocks. He got $7m plus another $10m or thereabouts if he won. Not shortchanged. A bloody good contract for a guy earning far less than that.

Think it was pretty well known that he got a flat $7m for the first fight and $10m for the second. Load of rubbish, he doesn't go to Saudi for a second fight and get short changed like that. Total bollocks.

That's exactly why he's top of the list. You said "HERO" to zero. Remember, Spinks was at the top of the game when he got blown out by Tyson, then tucked tail and quit the business, went into hiding for over a decade. This doesn't take away what he accomplished. One of my favorite fighters. But you asked, who went to ZERO after being a HERO? Douglas would go on to fight and win some. Rahman went on to fight and win some. McCall - I still say that was mob related and not really him on that one, but I don't know for sure. What I do know is that he would go on to fight and win some. So by my definition those are not "zeroes". I can't even Naseem Hamed a "zero" by that definition because he won one more fight after losing. Michael Spinks was at the top, lost, disappeared. That's a hero to zero if I ever saw one. come on man..we all know you meant Leon Spinks

Douglas busted up and beat a true, certified great....the most feared man ever in the division.

Rahman is the goat imo. He beat the best fighter out of Lewis, Joshua and Tyson. He was extremely entertaining after he beat Lewis and hyping up the rematch.

Never did a rematch at the same sort of level, I think Ruiz got paid like £20+ million to just step in at short notice. Then the rematch coming to Saudi Arabia it was reported AJ got £60+ million, you tally both fights together those 15 minutes of fame probably nearly brought Ruiz close to 50 million or maybe more when you deduct the fees he's had to pay. Well... come to think of it Ruiz said he trained himself so perhaps he didn't have much fees to pay at all lol. Think it was pretty well known that he got a flat $7m for the first fight and $10m for the second.

Douglas...he beat the boogeyman. Even though Tyson was a shell of his former self by that time, at least mentally.

Douglas made $24 million for the Holyfield fight... in 1990. What's the equivalent to that in today's dollars. I think Buster's the ultimate. He made an absolute fortune, he wasn't given a hope such was Tyson's reputation, and you couldn't possibly put it down to one punch. He was just exceptional that night. And his eating was on a par with Andy's. Never did a rematch at the same sort of level, I think Ruiz got paid like £20+ million to just step in at short notice. Then the rematch coming to Saudi Arabia it was reported AJ got £60+ million, you tally both fights together those 15 minutes of fame probably nearly brought Ruiz close to 50 million or maybe more when you deduct the fees he's had to pay. Well... come to think of it Ruiz said he trained himself so perhaps he didn't have much fees to pay at all lol.

rahman had other good wins and performances. douglas had a much more historically and contemporarily significant win. AJ had a global presence, mike tyson was the most recognizable athlete in the world and far and away its most famous. AJ was nowhere near there. AJ was also, you know, nowhere near as good as tyson. but AJ alwasy trained hard and tyson didn't. the writing was on the wall with tyson, you just dind't have social media, HD cameras in everyone's pockets, and a 24 hour, global news cycle. back then a story had to get to the ears of a journalist, he had to confirm it with sources, go through an editor, write the story, have it printed, and then the papers would need to circulate. hats off to ruiz for winning the biggest upset of the year. shame on him for wasting his opportunity.

Haha yeah that was pushed back to the cobwebbed corner of my brain but yeah Buster even got a f#cking video game off of that W which sounds crazy now but that's just how huge that was in that day that beating Mike was so nuts they were like "f#ck it let's make Buster Boxing". https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/151161-final-blow-genesis-front-cover.jpg Lol Thanks for posting that image. Buster’s moment was very short-lived, but it was intense. I recall there was this belief that, if he beat the man everyone considered invincible, then Douglas himself must’ve been special. It wouldn’t be long before people understood that Tyson wasn’t himself that night, and that Douglas fought the fight of his life. Ruiz may have made more money off of his moment (of course he did, this is decades later), but he didn’t beat anyone considered unbeatable. Same goes for Rahman. The Tyson era was a special time in boxing. The same can’t be said for Lewis or Joshua.

Douglas made $24 million for the Holyfield fight... in 1990. What's the equivalent to that in today's dollars. I think Buster's the ultimate. He made an absolute fortune, he wasn't given a hope such was Tyson's reputation, and you couldn't possibly put it down to one punch. He was just exceptional that night. And his eating was on a par with Andy's. You beat me to it...... Douglas made a killing in the Holyfield fight so even in financial terms he was the biggest winner of the 3 and that’s before you get to the money he made outside of the ring after that win. His upset achievement was better than Ruiz and Rahman because Tyson actually had that aura of invincibility, Lewis and AJ while on top always had that hint of vulnerability about them. Of the 3 Buster was definitely the most talented fighter and he actually could have been so much more if he was dedicated.

Ruiz is a fat, useless bum. Yet made millions of dollars, appeared on all the big American talk shows, the JR podcast etc. I think he's done very well considering.

Ruiz 15 minutes of fame made him tens of millions of dollars, I would say Ruiz wins this one quite easily. Douglas made $24 million for the Holyfield fight... in 1990. What's the equivalent to that in today's dollars. I think Buster's the ultimate. He made an absolute fortune, he wasn't given a hope such was Tyson's reputation, and you couldn't possibly put it down to one punch. He was just exceptional that night. And his eating was on a par with Andy's.

Hagler wasn't blown out in dominant, embarrassing fashion like the others we're talking about. But he was the #1 ranked P4P fighter in the world and a 3-1 betting favorite who lost to a guy coming off a one fight in about 3 years layoff AND one who had never fought at the weight. By your logic, simply losing under those circumstances, while being ‘embarrassred’ by being shoe shined, bolo punched and ‘styled on’ by the smaller fighter (and then subsequently ‘tucking tail’) makes him the bigger ‘hero to zero’.

Buster Douglas made an appearance on the WWF (WWE). So better.

Ruiz story isnt over yet,,,,, I say before it all said and done he racks out another 10 million out the sport, and possibly gets his hands on the title again unless wilder manages to get them before then. Ruiz is done. He will pick up another loss before he comes close to another title shot. I doubt he makes 1mil in his next fight.

That's exactly why he's top of the list. You said "HERO" to zero. Remember, Spinks was at the top of the game when he got blown out by Tyson, then tucked tail and quit the business, went into hiding for over a decade. This doesn't take away what he accomplished. One of my favorite fighters. But you asked, who went to ZERO after being a HERO? Douglas would go on to fight and win some. Rahman went on to fight and win some. McCall - I still say that was mob related and not really him on that one, but I don't know for sure. What I do know is that he would go on to fight and win some. So by my definition those are not "zeroes". I can't even Naseem Hamed a "zero" by that definition because he won one more fight after losing. Michael Spinks was at the top, lost, disappeared. That's a hero to zero if I ever saw one. Using your logic, Hagler is a better answer than Spinks. He basically ‘tucked tail and quit the business, went into hiding for over a decade’ by moving to Italy and doing movies.

That's exactly why he's top of the list. You said "HERO" to zero. Remember, Spinks was at the top of the game when he got blown out by Tyson, then tucked tail and quit the business, went into hiding for over a decade. This doesn't take away what he accomplished. One of my favorite fighters. But you asked, who went to ZERO after being a HERO? Douglas would go on to fight and win some. Rahman went on to fight and win some. McCall - I still say that was mob related and not really him on that one, but I don't know for sure. What I do know is that he would go on to fight and win some. So by my definition those are not "zeroes". I can't even Naseem Hamed a "zero" by that definition because he won one more fight after losing. Michael Spinks was at the top, lost, disappeared. That's a hero to zero if I ever saw one. You do realize he was a champion for 7 years? He didn't disappear - he retired. His knees was totally shot. Oh and he did also win Olympic gold....

Douglas has the best wins and was overall the best of the 3. He fell down hard though. Rahman probably stayed relevant the longest and its not like he ever turned into a lard ass, he just a guy who wasnt elite but had a big punch.