Firstly, its well known I do not rate Joshua, and think he's technically woeful. But congrats, I thought Ruiz would stop him late. He trained hard and got the W.
However if its true that Ruiz barely had a camp then Joshua was woeful. He was disciplined with his tactics. But despite of this he still got hit with body shots and some decent shots by a 6 ft 1 20 stone man, despite having height and reach advantage.
Was this really a master class?
It was a win, and congrats to him for that.
But it was one of the most cowardly wins I've ever seen in a title fight.
Compare Wilder vs. Fury, for example. Fury damn near died in the 12th round. And what did he do? He climbed off the canvas and fired back at Wilder, trying to take his head off for the remaining two minutes of the fight. That's a warrior's mentality. I look at Joshua running from a fat man until the final bell and I'm disgusted that he's a unified champion.
No one ran as well as Beyonce did running from a unification with Wlad, waiting for Fury and AJ to do the work.
You have to bear in mind, posters like LacedUp literally went into hiding when AJ got turned over like a sack of tacos in the first fight. So this result = redemption and the salvation in their eyes. :lol1:
Posted the day after the fight:
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=817077
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=816699
:lol1:
Yeah I went into 'hiding'.
Please tell me the thread starter isn't dumb enough to think Ruiz literally didn't train at all. :rofl::dunce:
He also seems to think it's unacceptable for Ruiz to have landed a single, solitary shot on Joshua haha.
Yes, if a man whos not trained, smaller than you, less reach etc then yes I expect a clinical schooling aka Klitscko brewster rematch.
Joshua still got hit with good shots and body shots despite having every advantage. Not his fault ruiz did not train. But doesn't hide the fact that he should be much better.
I'm not particularly an AJ fan and think he is vastly overrated, but the scorecards say it was a schooling.
Yeah he got caught a few times, but you can't go swimming without getting wet.
Were you expecting him to go 12 rounds and not get hit at all? Not even a few times? You know that boxing is two men hitting each other in an enclosed space right?
Yes, if a man whos not trained, smaller than you, less reach etc then yes I expect a clinical schooling aka Klitscko brewster rematch.
Joshua still got hit with good shots and body shots despite having every advantage. Not his fault ruiz did not train. But doesn't hide the fact that he should be much better.
Good point.
Joshua boxing has regressed imo.
You have to bear in mind, posters like LacedUp literally went into hiding when AJ got turned over like a sack of tacos in the first fight. So this result = redemption and the salvation in their eyes. :lol1:
Yea, but what you're doing is, you're muddying the waters when t he AJ nuthuggers want to bask in the glorious return of their champion. So any criticism is not allowed! You are clearly a hater and DKSAB if you point out the obvious or question the amazingness of the boxing masterclass that AJ laid on the for masses last night!
Good point.
Joshua boxing has regressed imo.
But more importantly than conditioning is his timing. If you have barely boxed and sparred then you hand eye and timing is gonna be woeful.
Joshua was poor despite of this. His tactics were better but he still got hit.
Were you expecting him to go 12 rounds and not get hit at all? Not even a few times? You know that boxing is two men hitting each other in an enclosed space right?
But more importantly than conditioning is his timing. If you have barely boxed and sparred then you hand eye and timing is gonna be woeful.
Joshua was poor despite of this. His tactics were better but he still got hit.
Yea, but what you're doing is, you're muddying the waters when t he AJ nuthuggers want to bask in the glorious return of their champion. So any criticism is not allowed! You are clearly a hater and DKSAB if you point out the obvious or question the amazingness of the boxing masterclass that AJ laid on the for masses last night!
He ran all night and clinched at every opportunity against a morbidly obese man that didn't train. Ruiz likely had a lot less muscle mass in the rematch, but still weighed over a stone more... :lol1:
But more importantly than conditioning is his timing. If you have barely boxed and sparred then you hand eye and timing is gonna be woeful.
Joshua was poor despite of this. His tactics were better but he still got hit.
He ran all night and clinched at every opportunity against a morbidly obese man that didn't train. Ruiz likely had a lot less muscle mass in the rematch, but still weighed over a stone more... :lol1:
It was a win, and congrats to him for that.
But it was one of the most cowardly wins I've ever seen in a title fight.
Compare Wilder vs. Fury, for example. Fury damn near died in the 12th round. And what did he do? He climbed off the canvas and fired back at Wilder, trying to take his head off for the remaining two minutes of the fight. That's a warrior's mentality. I look at Joshua running from a fat man until the final bell and I'm disgusted that he's a unified champion.
Firstly, its well known I do not rate Joshua, and think he's technically woeful. But congrats, I thought Ruiz would stop him late. He trained hard and got the W.
However if its true that Ruiz barely had a camp then Joshua was woeful. He was disciplined with his tactics. But despite of this he still got hit with body shots and some decent shots by a 6 ft 1 20 stone man, despite having height and reach advantage.
Was this really a master class?
Another words...I was wrong but I'm still stubborn enough to make excuses about my pick. It was a good performance, it works in Team Ruiz's favour to say he 'didn't train'...its obvious he could have been better but I didnt see much difference from the first fight...only that Joshua fought well and didnt allow him the same opportunities
Ruiz has a granite chin, hes got great coordination and hand speed, tough style for Joshua and he passed it second time, hes also a better fighter for the experience
Only winning 10 or 11 rounds out of 12. Was a disastrous performance...
The opponent literally didn't train. Joshua should be getting him out of there and never getting touched.
Yes, if your opponent didn't box for the fight hid fitness and timing will be dreadful. Look at floyd Mayweather performance in sparring at a beginning of a training camp.
Joshua was poor.