AJ can stink up the joint and probably decision Wilder by outboxing convincingly. With Ruiz II, AJ was extra cautious mentally based off 1st fight. That will be out the window with Wilder.
The Fury fight I see a 50-50 as well. Fury don’t have the power to KO AJ but can box just as good as Joshua
Wilder has the reach and speed advantage if he tries to fight from a distance he will be doing him a favor
AJ will need to get his balls back before that fight he will need to fight him inside
So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?
I'm just trying to understand your position.
My position is many things. First of all you have to put the fight into perspective. He immediate rematched a guy who not only beat him, but embarrassed him. Recently.
In that fight, and in the fight against Povetkin, we've seen that AJ has trouble. Small guys, fast hands. That's his kryptonite. AJ has a pretty straight forward defense usually, he slips and catches. That's a lot harder to do when the punches are coming from 6 inches below usual.
Against tall fighters we've seen him fight a totally different style, and usually beat the crap out of the people he fights.. Klitschko, Breazele, Molina, Martin etc. They've all ended up on the deck hard.
Would anyone really argue that Ruiz is better than Klitschko? No of course not. It's the style.
Similarly we've seen Fury look terrible against some fighters, and Wilder look terrible against some fighters.
AJ looked good (in the rematch), but he did look gun shy for sure. I can't say for certain whether he'll be gun shy against Wilder, but of course he won't look to go in there with his chin in the air.
But Wilder's style is much better suited for AJs, and I think everyone can see that. I don't think Ruiz II should leave anyone with a comparison at all.
But I do think he'll avoid Wilder and won't fight him before he's 100% back to his best mentally. And that's at least 3 more fights imo which will be Pulev, Usyk and Whyte.
Then he'll look to fight the winner of Fury vs Wilder.
Nah, AJ would do the exact opposite in a Wilder fight.
Wilder lacks inside game. He wants distance.
AJ would come to him all night till Deontay gets Ortized.
Wilder won't even have time to aim his only weapon.
Easy fight for AJ.
Wilder will again demand retirement money for this fight.
It will never happen.
I think the major difference between Joshua making Wilder look bad, and his other opponents, is that Joshua can really punch. Not as hard as Wilder, but hard enough.
Wilder might not have 36 minutes to get his shot in this one.
Very true, though I put more stock in Wilder's ability to tough through being hurt and survive than Joshua's. Though I admit he was impressive in doing so against Wlad.
It's a fight that is somewhat hard to imagine going the distance.
Joshua would be dumb to fight either of these long ranged. Longer, outfighers in a boxing match. He’d likely go back to his usual style. Beat the brakes off Fury and he should pressure and try to beat Wilder on the inside.
I mean, most fighters make Wilder look bad for most of the fight. That's his thing. He looks bad, but he'll land his power at some point and that's usually enough. Joshua most certainly would make Wilder look awful for 99% of the fight. He's far more skilled. I have little doubt that Joshua would dominate Wilder.
Problem is, Wilder's going to land. And he'll land enough that Joshua is going to need to survive some tough spots. And I don't think he will. Eventually Wilder will hurt and finish him, I think.
I think the major difference between Joshua making Wilder look bad, and his other opponents, is that Joshua can really punch. Not as hard as Wilder, but hard enough.
Wilder might not have 36 minutes to get his shot in this one.
Joshua might be able to outjab, outrun, and outclinch Wilder you mean.
Because I didn't see anything yesterday that would lead me to think he could "whoop his ass."
I mean, most fighters make Wilder look bad for most of the fight. That's his thing. He looks bad, but he'll land his power at some point and that's usually enough. Joshua most certainly would make Wilder look awful for 99% of the fight. He's far more skilled. I have little doubt that Joshua would dominate Wilder.
Problem is, Wilder's going to land. And he'll land enough that Joshua is going to need to survive some tough spots. And I don't think he will. Eventually Wilder will hurt and finish him, I think.
like fury did to Otto Wallin GTFOH mickey.
Ruiz is solid and very dangerous at close quarters and for what ever reason it was Joshua took his eye of the ball in the 1st fight and went in for the kill and paid for it.
Joshua will not make the mistake against either fury or wilder.
Fury cannot hurt Joshua which means Joshua can jump all over him and wilder has zero boxing ability who relies on one punch which means Joshua can box rings around him before wilder makes one missed haymaker and Joshua pops him.
Ortiz was slow and ponderous and was still out boxing wilder till he got caught.
Joshua will and I say this to you again beat either wilder or fury when they decide to to take this huge money fight and I’ll lay what ever wage you want on it Burgess Meredith
you know what you are?
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So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?
I'm just trying to understand your position.
ITs different though isnt it? Ruiz is an aggressive counter puncher. He was able to draw Joshua into exchanges and punish him for it. Wilder just doesnt fight like that at all. Look how he reacted to being hurt by Ortiz (first fight) compared to how Ruiz reacted to being KD'd?
Wilder is hella dangerous from range, Joshua would be crazy to try a Fury esque game plan. But he can get into him and beat him with shorter tighter shots. Its very dangerous to get into that range, but if he gets there I think he knocks Wilder out.
Anyone claiming Joshua vs Wilder is an easy pick is crazy imo.
No and no.
Fighting off the back foot would be suicide vs Wilder. He is just giving him time and space to find that right hand. He would surely have to step to him and make it a fight. Wilder doesnt exchange like Ruiz does, he doesnt counter inbetween your shots, AJ would be able to open up much more comfortably vs Wilder than he could vs Ruiz. Wilder could knock Joshua out at any time, but Ive not got any doubt that Joshua hits hard enough to stop Wilder as well.
Fury is a horrible horrible style for Joshua, and most HWs, and Joshua is not outboxing him. Wilder has a better chance because he has genuine one punch power, Joshua would have to hurt Tyson and then come back with more to get him out of there, and Fury has great survival instincts as he showed vs Deontay.
So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?
I'm just trying to understand your position.
He was wary of being caught in the inside with those short combinations. To combat it, he developed a beautiful game plan to neutralise anything Ruiz had
He doesn’t need to worry about Wilders inside game because he literally doesn’t have one. Joshua needs to be wary of the mid-long distance haymakers, but we know Joshua can fight on the inside, which I’m sure his focus will be
The question is more on Wilder, on how he will respond to an inside fight where one left hook will be the end of the fight
Wilder has two styles of fighting:
Long distance jabbing a la Stiverne 1, but only seems to work against lower tier opponents who plod
and of course, mid-long distance haymakers, but losing rounds along the way
The first style isn’t going to work well against Joshua who can actually move and counter well
and the second, I can see Joshua developing a strategy where he will stay on the inside and throw the small hooks
Wilder only has to land 1 bomb, but so does Joshua, and I think most people would agree that Joshua has the strategic and ability advantages
So he was wary of Andy Ruiz' power but won't be as gunshy against Wilder? Is that what you're saying?
I'm just trying to understand your position. Ruiz is technically light years ahead of wilder in term of combination punching and inside fighting and he is also 4 stone heavier than wilder.
Joshua is on a different level to wilder in terms of boxing ability period ,
Wilder was schooled by fury and really should have lost his belts but he was saved by your corrupt American judging system.
Joshua will box wilder and when wilder go’s off balance Joshua will nail him and finish him.
Wilder really needs to step up his game and stop fighting easy touches and that’s why Joshua last night earnt double the amount than wiilder has made in his entire career.
How f@cking embarrassing lol