Is it because they are insecure little girls? Because They're afraid of AJ beating Wilder? They want Wilder to have an easy touch for the undisputed?
Or more likely, because they know Wilder is getting treated like a sideman and this triggers something they're used to feeling?
You know like that person who has that one friend who gets all the girls and they resent them for it.
Which one is it?
Because you said you think they are better? :thinking:
If you think they are better then they should prove it, not just hope that someone else does it so they don't have to.
That would be like me saying I don't rate Wilder, I think AJ is better so I hope Ortiz beats him.
No, I hope AJ fights Wilder himself and proves it.
Where did I say they were better?
Even if I did say they were better (I didn't) why would I or should I care if they were to beat him or Joe Bloggs was to beat him?
I don't like AJ so I don't care who beats him. I was there when Ruiz beat him and it was absolutely incredible and hilarious. I wouldn't change that priceless moment for the world.
Legit issues eh? Both would be at fault for their own problems.
Let's just see if Mister Tyson will follow through with the rematch and not cancel or claim injury ;):biggthump
But Wilder didn't have any problems :lol1: He just had a long list of excuses.
Fury legitimately came from a documented weight gain, abuse of alcohol and mental health problems.
Whatever issue Wilder had, which he didn't, wouldn't be anywhere near what Fury went through.
In Wilder-world, someone else losing is as good as Wilder winning. Because we all know, Wilder doesn't have any real benchmark wins himself.
This is a very strange mentality that I see may Wilder fans have.
One guy told me a few days ago that Wilder doesn't need to fight any top 10 opponents because they can't give him a challenge anyway. So it's ok to go down the ranks :thinking:
They are delusional.
I'm sorry but that's just total bs :lol1:
Wilder was 215 when he fought Ortiz. He's skinny. That's just the way it is.
He's been sub 220 for many fights and was fully prepared for that fight, and if he wasn't that would have been his own fault anyway.
Tyson Fury had legit issues to battle.
Legit issues eh? Both would be at fault for their own problems.
Let's just see if Mister Tyson will follow through with the rematch and not cancel or claim injury ;):biggthump
Ruiz was the second best thing on the forum when he won and you guys were planning Wilder undisputed. Get your story straight when TRYING once again to down play a win by a guy you downplay ,according to you wilder sucks though ...jesus you guys are just DUMB...BIG DUMB..lol . :stupid:
The jersey jerk strikes again ,can't you ever post with NO contradictions ? DUH .
You guys weren’t planning anything. I know for a ignorant redneck such as yourself nuance is a hard thing to grasp. Let me try to explain it to you.
I am rooting for wilder to beat AJ but not picking him to beat AJ.
I am not a Ruiz fan but was happy he beat AJ. I was rooting for him to beat AJ again but I picked AJ to win because AJ is better than Ruiz and wilder imo.
I will always root for the American to beat British cuck even if I know the Brit is much better.
Can you understand that?
i know i know...i get it. and i know what youre saying. I dont think all of them has that great resume of being battle tested. AJ and Fury got Klits on the resume BUT...Fury beat Klits when Klits was active and winning and beating undefeated guys. After His loss to fury he goes away for two years and some change and fights an active AJ. Younger fresher. And held hiso own through the rust and age. OK...he beat that Klits. Wasnt impressed. Wilder well he aint dont much better. beat a lot of tomato cans. and a LOSS imo with Fury. Beat a game Ortiz which he was losing the fight in the second. He does have The WBC title. Has defended without a loss. AND I know Stiverne and arreola fought for a vacant stap and nobody EARNED it. Then Wilder comes by wins a decision and takes the unearned strap from him. (like a fukin soap opera huh)
Fury is still much alive in this game. IM guess he will beat Wilder in the rematch (if he dont get careless and get KOd) And a mega fight in the UK would be right for the money it would make. But Wilder or Fury imo should be the unified Champ. Not AJ. He loss to tubby. Looked like shlt (meaning he fought scared) beat a old Klits for a vacant titles Fury left behind. So much similarity in resumes and vacant titles made up titles and old guy new guy ahhhhhhh Guess it just comes down to really who brings that wow factor to the division..... Fury and Wilder for me. And i think both will beat the breaks of AJ. Its gonna be interesting IF THE PROMOTERS dont hijack the fight with mandatories and money and all the polo-tricks!
sorry for the Rant
Wait wait wait. What you're saying is not true.
Klitschko didn't "go away" for 2 years plus. First and foremost he fought AJ exactly 1.5 years after the Fury fight. Secondly, Klitschko was in training to fight Fury in a rematch in July 2016, and after that was cancelled he agreed to fight AJ and I believe it was publicly announced in december 2016 about a year after the Fury fight.
Now, let's just agree that Wladimir Klitschko is a better name than any guy on Wilder's resume.
However, what I will you is that what matters when it's all said and done is not so much these contenders, but how the fights turn out between each other.
Those three guys need to fight each other. multiple times.
I just noticed that the two PBC boys Wilder and Ruiz both blamed their losses on their weight, one said he was under and the other over after reading your post. Ha
If AJ made excuses this forum would be all over him.
AJ didn't make a single excuse for his loss. TO DIS DAY there was no excuse.
Wilder went on a nationwide tour complaining about the judges, the referee, tyson was his best ever, he was robbed, the 10 count, posted insta videos etc.
That was pathetic.
Wilder came in at least 10 pounds lighter then he usually is verse Fury. Note, Wilder is 6'7 and him averaging around 220-225 is pretty darn skinny as is, 209 though? Yeah right
Fury did fight an unprepared Wilder
I'm sorry but that's just total bs :lol1:
Wilder was 215 when he fought Ortiz. He's skinny. That's just the way it is.
He's been sub 220 for many fights and was fully prepared for that fight, and if he wasn't that would have been his own fault anyway.
Tyson Fury had legit issues to battle.
Not at all.
Last time Wilder did fight an out of shape Fury who had just come off a long layoff and extreme weight loss. Those are just facts.
Wilder made you buy that Fury could never be better :lol1:
Hilarious. Wilder was the in-form fighter at the time and should have lost that fight.
Wilder came in at least 10 pounds lighter then he usually is verse Fury. Note, Wilder is 6'7 and him averaging around 220-225 is pretty darn skinny as is, 209 though? Yeah right
Fury did fight an unprepared Wilder
Why would I care if Wilder or Fury beat him?
Because you said you think they are better? :thinking:
If you think they are better then they should prove it, not just hope that someone else does it so they don't have to.
That would be like me saying I don't rate Wilder, I think AJ is better so I hope Ortiz beats him.
No, I hope AJ fights Wilder himself and proves it.
It's all good friend
When time comes February, you guys will just make up another excuse.
"Wilder is bad he just fought an out of shape Fury"
"Wilder fought a uninterested Fury"
"Fury out-boxed him until the ___ though"
:haha:
I sometimes think Joshua has a higher chance than Fury lol
Not at all.
Last time Wilder did fight an out of shape Fury who had just come off a long layoff and extreme weight loss. Those are just facts.
Wilder made you buy that Fury could never be better :lol1:
Hilarious. Wilder was the in-form fighter at the time and should have lost that fight.
Years of Flomo-ing has messed with Dan's mind.
Enlighten me on how you've worked that one out, genius?
Always about Floyd with you :lol1: The Hatton fight was 12 f*kin years ago. Grow up.
Pretty much how the world feels about Wilder fanboys.
It's all good friend
When time comes February, you guys will just make up another excuse.
"Wilder is bad he just fought an out of shape Fury"
"Wilder fought a uninterested Fury"
"Fury out-boxed him until the ___ though"
:haha:
I sometimes think Joshua has a higher chance than Fury lol
No there's no reason to worry at all since he's the one fighting all the top contenders and Wilder isn't ,
So you should criticize Wilder and ask him why he's fighting bum after bum, never unified and rejected big offers to fight top champions or contenders like Klitschko, AJ and Whyte.
That's what you should worry about because AJ has proven and continues to prove that he's fighting top guys .
Ruiz wasn't a top contender when AJ fought him.
I am not criticizing AJ, I raised a legitimate concern. Wilder didn't get KTFO by an obscure, middle tier American. Wilder had a tough draw with Fury (a fight I had him losing) and he tried to do the rematch immediately and Fury ran away to TR.
AJ was fighting top guys on the way to the title. That was before the KO loss.
You didn't answer the question-does he take an optional or does he fight wilder after Pulev and Usyk?
Why would I have to worry about that? There is a real worry that AJ will follow the wlad plan because he can make boat loads of dough fighting European bums.
Arum just did something similar with Fury, although for some silly reason he put those European bum fights in America.
We are reading reports that AJ's next defense is Pulev. Then after that he will either fight the WBO mando or try to regain the WBO title (assuming its stripped from him because he makes the IBF defense) from Usyk. Those fights will not be in the US.
Then maybe he decides to fight Wilder. Or does he take an optional?
No there's no reason to worry at all since he's the one fighting all the top contenders and Wilder isn't ,
So you should criticize Wilder and ask him why he's fighting bum after bum, never unified and rejected big offers to fight top champions or contenders like Klitschko, AJ and Whyte.
That's what you should worry about because AJ has proven and continues to prove that he's fighting top guys .
AJ's resume is 10x better than Wilders in half the fights.
I think you should worry about your own champion hiding in america fighting bum after bum.
Why would I have to worry about that? There is a real worry that AJ will follow the wlad plan because he can make boat loads of dough fighting European bums.
Arum just did something similar with Fury, although for some silly reason he put those European bum fights in America.
We are reading reports that AJ's next defense is Pulev. Then after that he will either fight the WBO mando or try to regain the WBO title (assuming its stripped from him because he makes the IBF defense) from Usyk. Those fights will not be in the US.
Then maybe he decides to fight Wilder. Or does he take an optional?