Dude, I am the last man to be a Wilder fan. I was a Fury fan before, but this guy is a joke now. If you can't accept different opinions without abusing other members, so be it.
I thought Wilder is going to lose his next fight vs. Fury. Now I am not so sure. Fury is a clown, granted, a very good fighter, but physically too weak to beat Wilder. Wilder can KO him even in 12th round which sort of proves my point. Fury WAS a great fighter. That's all.
I don't care if you're a wilder fan or not my man, your points were not making any sense.
Fury is a joke now? :thinking:
wtf are you even talking about bro. Fury already beat Wilder and in that fight proved to be physically stronger than Wilder :lol1:
You just don't know what you're talking about.
Wait wait wait.. You brought up as an argument to Wilder being physically stronger than Fury, that he punches harder. ehhmm. wut? :lol1:
Fury is a proven 12 round fighter at the top level. You've never seen him drag his feet across the ring or get so tired that he falls over himself in the 5th round.
Wilder has demonstrated multiple times that he gets tired in the ring, Fury has never done that and hence there's zero argument to suggest that Wilder has better cardio than Fury .
You seem like one of those guys who just look at someone's physique and make an argument based on that.
Your lack of real arguments for your claims, historical references or really anything of value is why I can't debate with you.
You seem like a newbie.
Dude, I am the last man to be a Wilder fan. I was a Fury fan before, but this guy is a joke now. If you can't accept different opinions without abusing other members, so be it.
I thought Wilder is going to lose his next fight vs. Fury. Now I am not so sure. Fury is a clown, granted, a very good fighter, but physically too weak to beat Wilder. Wilder can KO him even in 12th round which sort of proves my point. Fury WAS a great fighter. That's all.
I'll whoop dat skinny leg yank.
I'll headbutt him in close, grab da ropes if he catch me wit da right, elbows, footsteppin, everyting ya kno ta win seen.
He can't deal with my powah!!
Mate, I see you are one of these guys who can only criticize without being able to show valid counterarguments.
Be logged in all the time, this forum needs a good laugh constantly.
Wait wait wait.. You brought up as an argument to Wilder being physically stronger than Fury, that he punches harder. ehhmm. wut? :lol1:
Fury is a proven 12 round fighter at the top level. You've never seen him drag his feet across the ring or get so tired that he falls over himself in the 5th round.
Wilder has demonstrated multiple times that he gets tired in the ring, Fury has never done that and hence there's zero argument to suggest that Wilder has better cardio than Fury .
You seem like one of those guys who just look at someone's physique and make an argument based on that.
Your lack of real arguments for your claims, historical references or really anything of value is why I can't debate with you.
You seem like a newbie.
Neither of those points have anything to do with physical strength, which is what I said.
Wilder's cardio is better than Fury's? :lol1:
Log off mate and stay logged off.
Mate, I see you are one of these guys who can only criticize without being able to show valid counterarguments.
Be logged in all the time, this forum needs a good laugh constantly.
Sigh....
There's boxing, and then there's that ''other stuff''. I'm calling that other stuff ''trading''.
So what he gets hit during those times. Those who TRADE know they can and will most likely get hit in return.
Yeah you don't know what trading is :lol1:
You need to read up on boxing terms my friend.
DW welcomes guys who trade. He doesn't do well when someone boxes.
My fantasy and yours are based on the same conclusion.....OPINIONS. Your fantasy doesn't > mine.
All of those guys on the right hand side are flawed too. They just have different flaws. Wilder has an equalizer for his flaw that has yet to ''officially'' let him down.
Again, IMHO, DW beats all of them. Not so much with his boxing prowess but that heat seeking missile right hand.
But Wilder doesn't trade :lol1: Do you not understand that? He doesn't trade punches when he fights, so why do you call him a trader?
No, your opinions are based on fiction, as in they mean nothing. You don't know what would happen and neither do I. What we do know for sure is that Wilder didn't fight those guys and AJ did.
Wilder made excuses not to fight AJ, not to fight Whyte and not to fight Klitschko.
Those are the only facts we know.
There are many guys who could beat and outbox wilder if they can avoid his power. I can already picture usyk and fury outclassing him, ruiz stopping him and even AJ stopping him if his mind is right, that is.
The truth is Fury took one, sort of... Will he able to again verse a Wilder that comes in at 220? Wilder was quite a bit underweight verse him the first fight btw
Probably you should ask yourself if Wilder will be able to do that against a Fury who wasn't 350lbs 12 months prior to the fight.
Again, doubt it. The first fight showed that Fury is a better boxer with a much better technique. Wilder's punches are much stronger than Fury's. I also think that Wilder's cardio is much better.
Neither of those points have anything to do with physical strength, which is what I said.
Wilder's cardio is better than Fury's? :lol1:
Log off mate and stay logged off.
Lotsa mfers could beat him. He's highly beatable.
Who will? Probably a mfer who touches him before he touches them. The ask of being perfect for 36 minutes is a big one that Tyson Fury couldn't even do. So I think you need to take it to his ass and risk being a highlight reel KO loss guy to become the highlight reel KO win guy.
Anyone could beat anyone honestly, at least in heavyweight.
I fully agree with your second statement.
Imagine if Ruiz beats Joshua and Wilder then loses to Parker again :haha: or even Fury :no:
AJ/Wilder - whoever lands first
Fury/Wilder - Fury outboxes him again, and we know he can take Wilders punch
Ruiz/Wilder - I’m not so sure. We’ll probably know more after the rematch, but Ruiz is pretty good at getting in on the inside which negates anything effective Wilder has
The truth is Fury took one, sort of... Will he able to again verse a Wilder that comes in at 220? Wilder was quite a bit underweight verse him the first fight btw
Fury already did. Hell, even ancient Ortiz was beating him until the KO. In other words, all you gotta do is move and tag him.
No they didn't.
Wilder's strat verse Ortiz was well planned. If you wanna call it out-box go for it. If it helps you sleep at night lol but Wilder knew he was going to connect.
lol the proof is in the first fight. Fury is significantly physically stronger.
Totally ridiculous to say Wilder is stronger than Fury :lol1:
Again, doubt it. The first fight showed that Fury is a better boxer with a much better technique. Wilder's punches are much stronger than Fury's. I also think that Wilder's cardio is much better.
Doubt it. He always was weaker than his size shows.
lol the proof is in the first fight. Fury is significantly physically stronger.
Totally ridiculous to say Wilder is stronger than Fury :lol1:
Meh at you saying Wilder would be better at boxing for a win than trading.
You're telling me you think those guys would beat Wilder ?
But he doesn't trade? He's not a trader. He's throwing the right hand at precision.
He gets caught when he trades.
Yes I do believe almost all of those guys beat him, and one already did.
You keep comparing a MW power with a HW. It makes you look really dumb
you are the dumb one chief...because im not comparing HW power to MW power....im comparing the narrative
golovkin was a "killer" that was gonna end canelos career....that's what we heard from his loyal fans....hes p4p rated for beating up scrubs like dom wade, Monroe, and Curtis stevens
you remember stevens right? the guy that lost to legit D level club fighters in marcos primera and jesse Brinkley right?
you are missing the point...its way over your head....its not about comparing MW to HW power
golovkin was a killer that was going to do this and that.....but hes proven its not easy to knockdown elite level MWs.......wilder is putting top 5 HWs on their butts at a good rate
the narrative is that golovkins fans always make excuses and he was supposed to be some elite great.....but hes just a very good fighter in a weak era in his division.....his division was 5x weaker till canelo came through
give him some respect...stop hating...it makes YOU look dumb
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