Legitimate question here. They both have some good wins, neither have any top wins.
Let's see how they stack up!
Wilder
Stiverne
Luiz Orti
Duhaupas
Szpilka
Washington
Whyte
Dereck Chisora
Joseph Parker
Robert Helenius
Oscar Rivas
Lucas Browne
What do you thin? Looks pretty close to me, with Chisora and Stiverne being same level, and Parker and Ortiz being the same level.
Wilder has more fights and therefore might just edge it, but otherwise it's really a pick'em situation.
One is a champion with a historic number of KO defenses.
The other is a contender.
Easy creampuff defenses to make wilder look good. They weren't worthy opponents. Besides ortiz nothing impressive. His ko ratio against top 10 opponents? 2 out of 7. It was hype. That was literally the whole point of the easy fights. To build a narrative but problem is we know it fell apart when he stepped up.. Whyte has the better wins over Parker and povetkin. He also has beaten more top 10 fighters than wilder 3 to 2. Even among the non ranked guys chisora is better than anyone wilder beat.
He lost to one guy, Deontay Wilder.
He completely outboxed him in every round except for the rounds he was knocked out int
He’s also won nearly every round in his entire boxing career.
Joshua was knocked out by an unranked fat guy. If Ortiz has fought Ruiz and knocked him out prior to Ruiz fighting Joshua, you and everyone else would claim Ruiz was a nobody. Because he was.
Ruiz has proven himself to be much better than Ortiz.
Facts.
This is a common mistake fans make. To think that the younger version is automatically better. And they make comments when they don't really know much about the fighter.
1) Chisora was 270+ lbs for the first Fury fight and had not trained AT all because Klitschko duped him out of a world title fight.
2) Chisora started boxing very late and had not properly learnt how to turn over his punches and therefore used to slap as opposed to punch.
3) Chisora is a fighter heavily reliant on the atmosphere and dislike for his opponent to fight well; we've seen this in the Kabayel fight and others and against Fury (in the second fight) the atmosphere was flat as the undercard fight Eubank vs Saunders had taken all the excitement of the night.
4) Chisora himself says, as is evident by the fights he currently has smashing people who he previously would have gone rounds with, that he's in his best ever shape.
Chisora is a damn gatekeeper man
The older more beat up version?? why is that?
This is a common mistake fans make. To think that the younger version is automatically better. And they make comments when they don't really know much about the fighter.
1) Chisora was 270+ lbs for the first Fury fight and had not trained AT all because Klitschko duped him out of a world title fight.
2) Chisora started boxing very late and had not properly learnt how to turn over his punches and therefore used to slap as opposed to punch.
3) Chisora is a fighter heavily reliant on the atmosphere and dislike for his opponent to fight well; we've seen this in the Kabayel fight and others and against Fury (in the second fight) the atmosphere was flat as the undercard fight Eubank vs Saunders had taken all the excitement of the night.
4) Chisora himself says, as is evident by the fights he currently has smashing people who he previously would have gone rounds with, that he's in his best ever shape.
The version of Chisora that fought Whyte would have completely smashed the version that fought Fury.
Undefeated or not.
The older more beat up version?? why is that?
You're the one trying to pretend like the WBA "Regular" Championship is real.
Liakhovich took Ruiz the distance AFTER Wilder blasted him out in one round.
The WBA belt is a world championship belt of higher rank than the interim belt .
I didn't make it up, the WBA did. I'm simply stating a fact; but as I reiterated, I don't care about the belts and never have. Someone like Stiverne is still a tomato can even though he was a WBC champion.
And Povetkin is still much better and much more accomplished than Ortiz.
Those are just facts.
This sums up Wilder's career.
Mentioning Liakhovic.
yikes.
You're the one trying to pretend like the WBA "Regular" Championship is real.
Liakhovich took Ruiz the distance AFTER Wilder blasted him out in one round.
How?
Fury beat Wlad who was unbeaten in a decade.
Beat Chisora twice in much easier fashion than Whyte, and that was a Chisora that was undefeated the first time, and the second time he’d only been beaten by guys like Vitali and Haye. Whyte went life and death a faded Chisora that’d had about 8 losses, 2 of them to Fury. I actually think Chisora beat Whyte the first time.
Fury also really beat Wilder.
Don’t talk nonsense. Fury’s resume isn’t great in terms of depth, but he’s beaten the best guys at the time such as Wlad and Wilder, and made easy work of guys like Chisora.
The version of Chisora that fought Whyte would have completely smashed the version that fought Fury.
Undefeated or not.
Wilder because he fought to a draw with Fury and beat Luis Ortiz twice. Both those fighters are better than anyone Whyte has fought, including Joshua.
Ortiz better than Joshua :lol1:
Alright.
Ortiz is better than everybody on whyte resume including whyte.
What makes Ortiz better than someone like Joseph Parker who has better wins and has done much more in his career than Ortiz? :thinking:
Fantasy?
I just think the depth of quantity Whyte has outshines the few patches of quality of Fury's.
What depth?
Parker? So Parker is better than Wlad or Wilder? No..
Who else? Rivas? Is he better than Wlad or Wilder? No
Chisora? Fury already beat a fresher version twice, and easier.
Who else has Whyte fought except getting flattened by AJ? Lucas Brown who got stopped by Dave Allen. Who else?