Wilder's punch is for real. But Ortiz is and always was crap

Haye was out landed by 62 punches, there was just a 34 punch difference between Jennings-Wlad lol. Like I said Jennings-Wlad is his most competitive bout since he fought Peter when he first hired Steward. I never said Jennings was a beast, but he proved he was top 5 with his performance against Wlad, he was on the level of a Haye, Whyte, Parkers etc. Of the division before getting blasted out by Ortiz. I said he outlanded him in power shots, that is a fact. Jennings was top 5? :lol1: Jesus, you Wilder fanboys are hilarious. Let's leave this here, there's absolutely no sense in discussing this further :lol1: Top 5 haha.

Haye out landed Wlad in power shots, that's a fact, so what you're saying is complete fiction. Jennings is a beast, you're right. Beating him 5 years ago would be reason enough for anyone to maintain a top 5 ranking :lol1: Haye was out landed by 62 punches, there was just a 34 punch difference between Jennings-Wlad lol. Like I said Jennings-Wlad is his most competitive bout since he fought Peter when he first hired Steward. I never said Jennings was a beast, but he proved he was top 5 with his performance against Wlad, he was on the level of a Haye, Whyte, Parkers etc. Of the division before getting blasted out by Ortiz.

Joshua tried to fight him on short notice which isn’t the same thing esp for an aging fighter He was offered the fight on 7 weeks notice which is the same time he got for the first Wilder fight. And let's not forget he said he would step in AND take the fight for free :lol1:

Haye-Wlad wasn't as competitive as Jennings-Wlad lmao, Haye got out landed by nearly 50 punches. Ibragimov BARELY escaped, be got dropped & hurt about 3 separate times. Tony Thompson got stopped twice. You're just listing fights without context lol. NONE performed as well as Jennings. The last guy to do so was Sam Peter back in like 2005. Haye out landed Wlad in power shots, that's a fact, so what you're saying is complete fiction. Jennings is a beast, you're right. Beating him 5 years ago would be reason enough for anyone to maintain a top 5 ranking :lol1:

Haye outlanded Wlad in power punches. Tony thompson went the distance, as did Ibragimov and others. I think you need to understand boxing better. Wlad literally had zero interest in that fight, went through the motions and quite simply had an easy night with Jennings who barely won a few rounds. To think that one decisive points loss would be used by Wilder's idiotic fanboys to big him up 7 years later is just unreal dumb. But that sums Wilder's fanboys pretty well :lol1: Haye-Wlad wasn't as competitive as Jennings-Wlad lmao, Haye got out landed by nearly 50 punches. Ibragimov BARELY escaped, be got dropped & hurt about 3 separate times. Tony Thompson got stopped twice. You're just listing fights without context lol. NONE performed as well as Jennings. The last guy to do so was Sam Peter back in like 2005.

Joshua tried to fight him on short notice which isn’t the same thing esp for an aging fighter yeah because ortiz needs to train super hard? also ortiz called joshua out after miller dropped out so why do that if you aren't ready to fight?

joshua just tried to fight him and offered him 7 million which is what haymon matched so he wouldn't help dazn. how is that not wanting to fight him? i know wilder said the same thing but its nonsense. Joshua tried to fight him on short notice which isn’t the same thing esp for an aging fighter

ortiz is a glorified journeyman “Glorified journeyman.” Lol Ortiz may not be that great, but he’s no journeyman, glorified or not.

ortiz is a glorified journeyman - - He's Cubano!

How many knockdowns were there? How many times was Jennings hurt? How many times has Wlad been out landed by 40 power punches? The rounds Wlad won were not dominating rounds at all. Like I said, you could take any fighter from any division, do what BJ did & it'd immediately elevate them to top 5 easy. Ortiz has outperformed multiple fighters in his weight class against similar opposition. Haye outlanded Wlad in power punches. Tony thompson went the distance, as did Ibragimov and others. I think you need to understand boxing better. Wlad literally had zero interest in that fight, went through the motions and quite simply had an easy night with Jennings who barely won a few rounds. To think that one decisive points loss would be used by Wilder's idiotic fanboys to big him up 7 years later is just unreal dumb. But that sums Wilder's fanboys pretty well :lol1:

for the top level. He's slow as hell and it was embarrassingly obvious that this guy couldn't do anything to wilder. Wilder was patient, patient, patient and bang, that's it. That's what separates a pretender from a champion. Ortiz got paid tonight, good for him. But please, for the love of god, we should all appreciate that this guy simply never was anywhere near what these wilder fanboys wanted us to believe he was. A 6 rounds slow plodder with a decent left counter. ortiz is a glorified journeyman

yes a lot of people said that sir No one said that. However, I will remind everyone how much stick I got only a few years ago for saying Dillian Whyte would beat Carlos Takam. Back then Takam was apparently way too good for Whyte, but ever since he lost to AJ he's become a journeyman. So it goes both ways, let's not forget that.

Let's be clear I said at the top level. Not crap in general. Literally no one said that. When AJ offered to fight Ortiz, I said multiple times I hoped the fight would happen so everyone could see how easily AJ would deal with him. yes a lot of people said that sir

:lol1: :lol1: Hilarious Wilder fans. Imagine bigging up Bryant Jennings who won respectively 2 and 3 rounds on the judges scorecards against Wlad, to big up Ortiz, to big up Wilder. So pathetic. How many knockdowns were there? How many times was Jennings hurt? How many times has Wlad been out landed by 40 power punches? The rounds Wlad won were not dominating rounds at all. Like I said, you could take any fighter from any division, do what BJ did & it'd immediately elevate them to top 5 easy. Ortiz has outperformed multiple fighters in his weight class against similar opposition.

2 judges scored it 116-111, Jennings out landed Wlad in power punches by a significant amount, Wlad could barely hit Jennings & when he did he took it. Why couldn't Pedvetkin do this? Pulev? Like I said it just makes NO sense. You could take any fighter from any division and if they challenge the champion like that as well as have a tip 10 win they AUTOMATICALLY jump into the top 5. BJ was outboxing that Colombian more effectively than a roided to **** Whyte was. Even the Joyce bout was close & this is BJ passed his best :lol1: :lol1: Hilarious Wilder fans. Imagine bigging up Bryant Jennings who won respectively 2 and 3 rounds on the judges scorecards against Wlad, to big up Ortiz, to big up Wilder. So pathetic.

Here we go. :lol1: Wlad won like 10 rounds in that fight, and Jennings is therefore some kind of beast. 2 judges scored it 116-111, Jennings out landed Wlad in power punches by a significant amount, Wlad could barely hit Jennings & when he did he took it. Why couldn't Pedvetkin do this? Pulev? Like I said it just makes NO sense. You could take any fighter from any division and if they challenge the champion like that as well as have a tip 10 win they AUTOMATICALLY jump into the top 5. BJ was outboxing that Colombian more effectively than a roided to **** Whyte was. Even the Joyce bout was close & this is BJ passed his best

It makes no sense to say Wlad is good but BJ is so bad when their fight was competitive lol. Jennings won multiple rounds against Wlad, he went the distance, he took his punches, not even AJ or Pedvetkin could do that. You're correct that AJ didn't go the distance with Wlad. That's in his favour though.

Is Manuel Charr the Heavyweight Champion? He's the WBA regular heavyweight champion, yes.

No I don't since one had an actual WBA belt and one had an interim belt :lol1: Wlad was the super champ. Not my fault that WBA decided to elevate him after the Haye fight. You can take your gripe up with them. Similarly, Pacquiao was a WBA champ after beating Matthysse. Trevor Bryan is the interim WBA champ currently, and only a total idiot would ever claim that's worth anything. In fact, only a complete spastic would ever claim that an olympic gold medalist with 6 or 7 world champions on his record, a world title belt with multiple defenses and one points defeat to the second longest reigning heavyweight champ ever, is somehow inferior to a guy who didn't win any major amateur honours, has zero world champs on his resume, zero top three contenders and has defeated zero recognizable names. :lol1: But that's the wilder fanboy logic of today. Is Manuel Charr the Heavyweight Champion?

It makes no sense to say Wlad is good but BJ is so bad when their fight was competitive lol. Jennings won multiple rounds against Wlad, he went the distance, he took his punches, not even AJ or Pedvetkin could do that. Here we go. :lol1: Wlad won like 10 rounds in that fight, and Jennings is therefore some kind of beast.