Ali v. Wilder

Fury made Wilder look stupid; Ali would have done this while also hurting him, and eventually knocking him out.

This is why Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns were both each other's nightmare - they were both in there trying to do basically the same thing. Huge amount of metal pressure - trying to beat the other guy to the punch knowing he's going to counter you. I am one of the those people who thinks Mayweather's resume is astonishingly thin given the amount of esteem he's held in. To say he "ducked" anybody doesn't even really make sense - he moved between divisions and picked fights he could win, when he could win them. From career management point of view, he was better than anyone - he made a gazillion dollars and still has all his brain cells. But the trade-off for boxing fans was no Pacqiauo fight till they were both old, no fight with Trinidad, Wright, etc., etc. Sure, he never lost. But here's something Ali didn't do: go to jail for beating his wife. Agreed. The gf beating thing is what kept me from being one of his fans. Still enjoyed watching him fight tho.

You know, you make a great point here and I agree 100%. I’ve always thought that that sentiment rings true for most pure boxers — they don’t like to face other pure boxers. Mayweather fared quite well against KO artists and swarmers (although he had some close fights like Castillo I and Maidana I), but I noticed there weren’t many fights with guys with great jabs and masterful defense. I’m not saying he ducked anyone, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew that was riskier for him. Although different generations, I would have loved to see him fight Pernell Whitaker in a time machine — that would have been fight of the century for me. This is why Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns were both each other's nightmare - they were both in there trying to do basically the same thing. Huge amount of metal pressure - trying to beat the other guy to the punch knowing he's going to counter you. I am one of the those people who thinks Mayweather's resume is astonishingly thin given the amount of esteem he's held in. To say he "ducked" anybody doesn't even really make sense - he moved between divisions and picked fights he could win, when he could win them. From career management point of view, he was better than anyone - he made a gazillion dollars and still has all his brain cells. But the trade-off for boxing fans was no Pacqiauo fight till they were both old, no fight with Trinidad, Wright, etc., etc. Sure, he never lost. But here's something Ali didn't do: go to jail for beating his wife.

Anytime Wilder fights a decent skilled boxer it plays out the same. He either lands a huge shot or he loses. Makes him exciting. If he fights some decent boxers.

I'm gonna get hate, I see the fight both ways. Ali would obviously have an edge, but this is a 6'3 man vs 6'7. I would not be surprised to see Wilder manhandle him mid to late fight. His reach would be a bit of a problem No hate from me — although I still think Ali would win, your logic makes sense to me.

Ali by KO in 5. See Ali vs. Cleveland Williams. Prime Ali was at least as good defensively as Fury is now, had a even better chin, and was more offensively capable. Wilder, with all his telegraphing and lousy defense, eats counter rights till it's naptime. A terrible match for Wilder. Fury would actually stand a much better chance - Ali hated having to box other boxers. You know, you make a great point here and I agree 100%. I’ve always thought that that sentiment rings true for most pure boxers — they don’t like to face other pure boxers. Mayweather fared quite well against KO artists and swarmers (although he had some close fights like Castillo I and Maidana I), but I noticed there weren’t many fights with guys with great jabs and masterful defense. I’m not saying he ducked anyone, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew that was riskier for him. Although different generations, I would have loved to see him fight Pernell Whitaker in a time machine — that would have been fight of the century for me.

I'm gonna get hate, I see the fight both ways. Ali would obviously have an edge, but this is a 6'3 man vs 6'7. I would not be surprised to see Wilder manhandle him mid to late fight. His reach would be a bit of a problem

Ali by KO in 5. See Ali vs. Cleveland Williams. Prime Ali was at least as good defensively as Fury is now, had a even better chin, and was more offensively capable. Wilder, with all his telegraphing and lousy defense, eats counter rights till it's naptime. A terrible match for Wilder. Fury would actually stand a much better chance - Ali hated having to box other boxers.

Wilder KO1 Ali with a power jab

Wilder's technique (or better said lack of it) would make him look very goofy and clumsy.

Ali toys with him.