Pacquiao being the only titlist in 4 different decades secured?

So much for Manny being "shot" seems like he is still fighting on the top level doesnt it

Yep. 4 different decades. 8 different weight divisions. 2x back to back FOTD. Oldest welterweight champ (40 yrs.) Dude continues to break records. And to think, he only boxes “part time.” 2x back to back Fighter of the Decade? Pac only won once

There is a real argument for Pacquiao to be the greatest fighter of all time.

If u don't want to believe me.. try to google 8 division champion and u will see one name only or try pacquiao and u will 8 division champion.... Doesn't matter what google says. Pacquiao has never won belts at 126 or 140

I figured a fan wouldn't need to have their arms twisted to rate names :lol1: ! May beat the better versions of Mosley AND Cotto. Clottey was meh and Margarito was fan fiction. Cest la vie Yeah better hold on to that belief. You can't use "May beat the better versions of" when it comes to Clottey and Margarito that's why you do whatever you can to downgrade them and their credibility. The same way you sound bitter whenever DelaHoya and Hatton pops up in Manny's resume. Kinda sound like you wanna erase their names whenever you talk about it.

When he steps in the ring, what weight is he ? Around 148-150... Compared to his opponents' weight which is usually around 155-160... And if he shouldn't be fighting them, why is he for so long ? $$$... That's why... And to say those that he did fight, when he fought them, were credible opponents is to be extremely bias. None of the welterweights since 2000 was "legit" (GrandPac only has Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Bradley, Vargas, Thurman as "good" ones, arguably), I think we already agreed on that the last time... About his opponent choices, not totally his fault (his only fault being a yes man to Arum before)... Does he have a choice under TR? None... TR hates co-promoting small fights... If it's GrandPac who beat Martinez instead of Cotto during "that" night, will he get credit? But then again, this is not the thread for that stuff... :hijacked:

Go on and rate them then Why? Is this supposed to be a pop quiz? The other poster just rated Cotto A. Not saying he should be but wherever Cotto is rated at that point, Clottey should be rated close who gave him life and death match. But both are solid wins so is Margarito who beat both. Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley were the cores in the WW during Mayweather's absence. Guess who took them 1 by 1 Bradley2x, JMM, and Thurman were also solid wins.

- -A minor stat anomaly got all the PeeWees in a fluff. Manny also the first Filipino 8 div champ and the shortest and tallest ever 8 div champ, ect...

I'll play along but I feel like there would be no point because then you'll be judging me and try to scrutinize my opinion on how I rate his wins. ODLH: B Cott: A Clottey: C Margarito: B Shot Mosley: C JMM: B+ Rios: C Bradley: A Algieri: B- Bradley 3.0: B+ Vargas: C Lucas: C Broner: C Thurman: A You guys are downgrading Clottey too much. Sure he performed like a C against Pacquiao but this was the guy who arguably beat the guy above your list who you rated A

I think you've been hit in the head with rocks if you actually believe the **** coming out of your mouth. Pac ain't no 8 division champion. FACT. His claims to being lineal are weak as ****. I don't accept that Manny became lineal by beating ****ing Timothy Bradley for the third time. If u don't want to believe me.. try to google 8 division champion and u will see one name only or try pacquiao and u will 8 division champion....

Anyone claiming the DLH win is quality is shockingly biased. The MW weighed less than the LW on fight night FFS. :rofl: A Dela hoya who almost beat floyd and pac retired him.. :lol1:

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooook................I'll go 1st Rate these wins (FOURTEEN to choose from) Shot Oscar @ WW D- CW Cotto @ -WW (for Cottos belt) C Clottey D- Margarito WW+ for some bullshlt title D- Shot Mosley D Life N Death again with JMM B Rios D- Bradley, the rematch for the robbery B Algieri D Bradley 3.0 C Vargas D Lucas D- Broner D- Thurman* B- :hail: Pac The Compiler Hoya A+++ pac ia 4-1 underdog Cotto A++ malignaggi said that pac will be tye GOAT if he win Clottey A top 3 ww Margarito A++ Unbelievable performance against an opponent who make floy almost pee in his pants. Rios A Bradley A+ Top 3 and undefeated ww Algiere A Vargas A a big undefeated ww Lucas B Broner A young prime ww Thurman A+++ a big undefeated no. 1 ww ....... AN INCREDIBLE RESUME..

Discussion derailed, eh? Disputing GrandPac's 147+ resume? My simple take: GrandPac's best weight range is not 147-154, it's 126-130... He's not suppose to be fighting above those weights, but he still continue building a solid resume above given his age and physical condition... That's where I give credit to him... This is about 147+ resume wherein TBE (not The Best Ever) edges because it's his best weight range, this is not about P4P ATG talk... Pachuggers should realize that...

You’re forgetting Morales and Barrera and Hatton. Not to mention plenty of those wins are by KO/TKO, and multiple times! Damn, what a resume! PAC massacred Oscar only 1 year after Oscar took Floyd 12 rounds! Some even were arguing Oscar beat Floyd! Pac went in and RETIRED him! 1 YEAR LATER! Even Oscar says PAC was his toughest opponent of all time! And Pac was a massive underdog! PAC the #3 ATG Boxer ever! The ones listed were Pac's WW run. But yes, Pac's resume is legendary stuff.

beating tim bradley and giving him his first L.. beating lucas, beating broner and then beating thurman. ALL those names, at one point were consider TOP fighters. besides, canelo, who has has a better resume? Rofl That point was diiiiiiiistant from Pacquiao

Ever heard of the terms ''shot'' and ''post prime'' ?!?!?! Pac's opponents fit the terms. If I were to describe most of Pac's WW opponents - Shot, post prime, weight issues, lacking power, no hoper and inactive. I'm not here to discuss anyone but Pac and those on his resume. If you want to match his resume with others, make a thread. so who besides canelo had a better resume that manny!!! stop barking! it doesnt matter if they were pass prime or not, kov was not prime either but i still gave canelo all the credit for stopping kov and that's the only reason why i have canelo winning FOTD instead of manny.

I think you're living under the rock if u still don't know this... I think you've been hit in the head with rocks if you actually believe the **** coming out of your mouth. Pac ain't no 8 division champion. FACT. His claims to being lineal are weak as ****. I don't accept that Manny became lineal by beating ****ing Timothy Bradley for the third time.

Those DLH and Margarito ratings and you say you're honest Cest la vie Oh yes, because your rating is so much better and more honest without any hate-filled bias? Gimme a break. I'll stick with my rating and you can stick with yours. You just did exactly what I said you were going to do when you asked me to show my ratings, you decided to judge me on it. It seems like no one is ever mature enough to have a decent discussion here anymore. Your opinion on Pac's resume has ZERO effect on his ATG status.

And then you have groupies who give their guys TOO MUCH CREDIT. Imho, my ratings are more honest. But that's with EVERY fighter. You have fans that will stick with their guy and have a bias view. That's just how it is. I give every fighter the same amount of respect and credit. It's just a shame that some people have to be more harsh on other fighters BECAUSE they can't stand fans of other fighters when it shouldn't be like that at all. I don't let a fighter's fanbase cloud my judgement on the fighters themselves. I'll stick with my rating. Pac's WW has been an interesting run. Still an ATG.

FOOH with - DLH...the absolute WORST VERSION of DLH !!!!! I would have given Pac more credit if he wasn't such a bltch with Cotto. Wasn't planning on EVER fighting Cotto without a clause. Maybe if Pac went up like he did with Margarito. Pac is not an idiot. He treads lightly. :lol1: Margarito........... Fu ck this shlt :lol1: !!!!!!!!!!!! To each their own. I've already put my rating and I stand by what I said. Posts like these is why these forums are so toxic. No one is willing to give anyone credit without sounding like an immature hate-filled troll with an agenda. Pac is a legit ATG and has proven time again why he is. You can't take away his achievements and what he's done for boxing. He's already cemented his legacy as once in a lifetime fighter and one of the best in his era, there's no denying that.