Floyd was a defensive wizard and with his 50-0 record is a guaranteed HOF boxer. He defeated Manny by UD when they fought.
But when people say both May and Pac made excuses and act like it was the same for both, it's just not true.
#1 Manny's not good enough
#2 Pac's PPV numbers are bad
#3 Manny wants 50?50 split
#4 Pac's lost and I'm undefeated
#5 I dominated in the 90's, where was Pac?
#6 Pac fights my leftovers
#7 I won't deal with Bob Arum
#8 I'm concerned for my health and safety
#9 Pac's coming from 106
#10 Manny has to get past Bradley and Marquez
#11 Pac's been KO'd, he's been outboxed
#12 Floyd gave up his title to Pac saying nobody tells me who to fight
#13 The Pac fight doesn't have the same aura as it did
Only 13 but 20 looks a lot better! lol
They sure did go to great lengths. They even went as far as accusing him of PED’s and Manny literally had to sue him for defamation of character.
Floyd has always been a salty individual. Idk why.
He didn’t want to fight a prime PAC. Maybe it makes him a smart business man, but it hurts his overall legacy. He doesn’t care tho, he’s MONEY MAY.
His die hards care more about why he stalled out certain fights/fighters than he does.
I’m a Floyd fan myself. Although I do acknowledge his habit of dodging risky opponents and his diva mannerisms. Still an all time great tho. I’d place him in top 20-25.
The point is your words are now proven to be not credible.
Don’t bother replying, as I said, your words aren’t credible.
Where ever you place him he is better than Manny thats just a cold hard fact , when all the dust had settled and it was back it up Floyd won and Manny lost, if they fought 10 times from 130 to 154 Floyd wins 10 times, his style and skill set will always beat Manny, thats just straight up boxing.
They are both ATGs , the rest is fan argument, boxing is such a dynamic sport that any ATG could pull a win over any other ATG on their night, there isnt the gap you think between the very best guys, a few milliseconds faster is all it takes to be first to react, so to say one kills another is more wishful thinking than reality.
The Whitakers Alis, Leonards, Robinson and Mayweather are the icing on top of the sugar that makes up the sweet science, this fluid styled fighters own it and will win 9 out of 10 times because they win the reaction race, very gifted athletes with cat like reflexes, it dont matter how bad ass you are if you dont land anything meaningful, and when they also have great chins, they dont lose too many.
I like Pacquiao better than Mayweather as a person, and you could argue he did more for the sport of boxing since he made such a big jump and won titles across weight classes. Still, Mayweather was a better boxer head to head. More complete fighter and less risk-taking. He beats Pacquiao, the peak Pacquiao, 3 times out of 5. In my opinion.
Well now that I got that monkey off my back.
Freddie even took responsibility as for why the fight didnt happen. Yet these 4 feet tall children still refuse to accept it.
Awesome, you just admitted that you’re constant attempts to bash and talk crap about Manny’s success is simply because you’re a Floyd fan.
Lmao. Nothing you say is credible. You’ve exposed yourself.
LMAO YDKSAB!!
Of course I'm a floyd fan. You cannot be a fan of this sport without being a fan of him. That's dumb.
What was your point again?
Again,name one credible boxing analyst or publication or current or retired boxer that rates Pac top three all time.You can't. There isn't any.
Boxrec does actually
The nail in the coffin is roach even saying they were the reason the fight didnt happen.
Look manny is a solid fighter. An ATG but he will always fall second to TBE and there is no shame in that.
pac the #3 atg boxer ever!!
Again,name one credible boxing analyst or publication or current or retired boxer that rates Pac top three all time.You can't. There isn't any.
I think more 7-5 win by Floyd but 8-4 isn’t far off. I even think maybe a draw wouldn’t have been off. Floyd didn’t do much besides run and hug.
And I’m a fan of both.
Fair enough...I only cared to watch it once and scored it then
You pretending that I'm worked up is laughable when it's you who is worked up because of the dumb shlt you said and you can't back up your opinion :lol1:
You're a clown, dude. Just stop it. If you want to tell me how a 14day cut-off is unfair to a boxer, please go for it so i can have another laugh at your expense, Mr. Pacquiao was giving blood but not for a fight :rofl:
You're an embarrassment and you can't let it go because you have no comeback that makes sense. Go play in traffic, kid.
Wow look at all those laughey emojis..you're so stoic
Yea ok. Mr....."I don't care....really" who then proceeds to write me two books on his opinion about this :lol1:
Do you really think you fooled anyone? Just drop it. I hope you learned something about this since you obviously knew Jack Shlt, Mr. "he was giving blood...but not for a fight."
Just stop it. I'm done with you already. Just learn something and move on.
Dude what are you even talking about lol...you sound like a crazy person lol...you just can't accept that someone neutral thinks that Floyd was the main culprit here that the fight didn't get made..just my opinion from the facts at hand and I think it is pretty clear...if you feel otherwise, then good for you.
If you want to keep getting all worked up about it, I just hope Floyd is at least paying you something.
Keep writing me paragraphs.
Haven't made any bold claims, yet you say a 14 day cut-off is unfair :lol1:
Write me some more paragraphs, homie! Say some more dumb shlt so you can claim it's just trolling when I prove how stupid what you say is :rofl:
Dude it takes me like 2 minutes to write all that...when you are just writing flippantly rather than pouring all your feelings into it, that's how it goes
Content of the contract?
From what I understand, he's saying it's BS that he didn't want the fight...which is really the only thing that is BS. It's pretty clear to me that Arum didn't want this fight to happen. At least not at that time.
Schaefer obviously wanted the contract kept under wraps because he didn't want anyone trying to hold them to the 50/50 split.
Mayweather already went on record mentioning the contract and that he signed and had his gear already made for the fight, but of course I don't expect anyone to believe him. That's why it's good that we have both Arum and Kevin Iole to back up this info.
Anyway, this is all old shlt.
Well I guess it’s pretty easy to say you signed a contract that was drawn up by your own people. All the terms were obviously not agreed upon. That whole thing was a circus...in retrospect, people blaming one side over the other are ridiculous.
I'm responding to you because I'm having a good time watching you get so much wrong and then subsequently squirming and claiming that you're such a good troll when in reality all that's happened is that your lack of knowledge on this subject was exposed.
Anything else I can do for you?
See that's kind of why I view/viewed you as being kind of out there and why I responded how I did...I haven't even made any bold claims on here or any factual claims, I've just given my opinion on things, and it's basically been the same few lines each comment...yet you keep insisting on your version and getting all worked up, and on top of that twisting my words around lol and calling me a Pac fan or something.
You're getting really invested in this actually, which is kind of funny to me...and you seem to have a hard time just taking someone's opinion that based on the facts out there, it seems pretty clear to me that Floyd was the one who was looking for a way out of the fight...that's just how I feel and you seem to have a hard time taking that.
And that's basically all I've said in every response on here...and you keep coming back, and getting more and more emotional...and again on top of that you started twisting my words around...so yeah I wanted to have some fun with you and you took the bait like I thought you would lol.
I think you calling me a Pac fan, when I told you before I've never watched 1 fight of his live, just kind of made me say, OK this guy is kind of out there...btw I misspoke, I watched Pac-Horn live and thought Horn should have won...why don't you go find another few Pac fans that have watched one of his fights live and thought he lost to Horn.
But keep up the good fight man...maybe you will convince yourself of all this stuff one day :)