1) Canelo was too young for Floyd but not for Cotto
2) Cotto was too old for Floyd at 32 but not too old for Canelo at 34
3) Floyd ducked Margarito who got KO’d by Mosley
4) Mosley was good when beating Margarito but too old in the very next fight against Floyd
5) Marquez was too small for Floyd but KO’d Manny
6) Floyd ducked Manny until Manny got old but Floyd is 2 years older
7) Floyd cherry picked and beat an old Oscar, while Manny didn’t pick an old weight drained Oscar
8) Oscar a Cherry pick at 34, Cotto is great at 34 and Floyd is not washed up at 38
9) Zab Judah was not a great opponent
10) Baldomir beat Zab but Floyd Cherry picked him
11) Maidana gave Floyd a great first fight but Floyd cherry picked the rematch
12) Diego was a good victory but that was a long time ago
13) Castillo first fight Floyd beat him injured, some people had doubt so Floyd showed how he was scared by running it back and we all know what happened in that fight.
14) Floyd KO’d an undefeated Hatton but Manny did it quicker because Hatton wasn’t washed up fighter by then
15) Sweet pea, Ali and Pep had great defence but Floyd is a runner
16) Floyd called out Tszyu for 3 straight fights but was ducking him
17) Gatti wasn’t a good fighter
18)Floyd cheap shotted Ortiz but that head butt was justified
19)Floyd was 152 against a 165 Canelo but Floyd had the weight advantage due to the 152 catch weight Canelo asked for
20) Floyd defeated 24 World champions and they were all not good.
1) Canelo was too young for Floyd but not for Cotto
2) Cotto was too old for Floyd at 32 but not too old for Canelo at 34
3) Floyd ducked Margarito who got KO’d by Mosley
4) Mosley was good when beating Margarito but too old in the very next fight against Floyd
5) Marquez was too small for Floyd but KO’d Manny
6) Floyd ducked Manny until Manny got old but Floyd is 2 years older
7) Floyd cherry picked and beat an old Oscar, while Manny didn’t pick an old weight drained Oscar
8) Oscar a Cherry pick at 34, Cotto is great at 34 and Floyd is not washed up at 38
9) Zab Judah was not a great opponent
10) Baldomir beat Zab but Floyd Cherry picked him
11) Maidana gave Floyd a great first fight but Floyd cherry picked the rematch
12) Diego was a good victory but that was a long time ago
13) Castillo first fight Floyd beat him injured, some people had doubt so Floyd showed how he was scared by running it back and we all know what happened in that fight.
14) Floyd KO’d an undefeated Hatton but Manny did it quicker because Hatton wasn’t washed up fighter by then
15) Sweet pea, Ali and Pep had great defence but Floyd is a runner
16) Floyd called out Tszyu for 3 straight fights but was ducking him
17) Gatti wasn’t a good fighter
18)Floyd cheap shotted Ortiz but that head butt was justified
19)Floyd was 152 against a 165 Canelo but Floyd had the weight advantage due to the 152 catch weight Canelo asked for
20) Floyd defeated 24 World champions and they were all not good.
Bravo!
You encapsulated almost every ridiculous excuse that Floyd haters make.
I especially like the Shane Mosley one: he wasnt any good when Floyd beat him yet one fight before he had destroyed Margarito. Who Floyd was supposedly ducking. :lol1:
many of Floyds opponents were good, some even on the verge of greatness, until floyd beats them, and then, we hear how Floyd cherry picked some tomato can..
True. Floyd schooled Canelo, who had a 20 lbs weight advantage on him. The critics then said that Canelo wasn't good. This is the same Canelo that would go on to beat GGG, Cotto, and Khan.
many of Floyds opponents were good, some even on the verge of greatness, until floyd beats them, and then, we hear how Floyd cherry picked some tomato can..
I thought this thread was about Floyd's 20 excuses not to fight Pacquiao. I only remembered about 5 so I was interested.
Thats funny I remember they both had excuses, and that Floyd approced Manny personally and made the fight.
How did the fight go, the irony more excuses from guess who lol.
Hinder that exasperation induced by assumptions that don't concur with those you retain. Liberate your individuality and cease yeilding logic to riots that will never heed to certitude
Shane could have fought him sooner but a toothache got in the way.
That was years before when Shane said that. Floyd got slack for fighting Marquez and not Shane in his first fight back from his retirement.
1- Manny needs to do blood testing up to day prior to fight
2- Manny PPV numbers not high enough
3- Manny needs to leave Arum
4- Where was he in the 90’s?
5- Manny not good enough
6- I’m afraid for my family
7- He came up from 106 (so did Floyd as an amateur)
8- He has losses (Manny and Mosley)
9- Manny’s win over Rios doesn’t count, it was a comedy act
10- 2008 - Floyd "retires" when he takes a hard look around the division and sees a PRIME Cotto, Margarito, and Pacquiao breathing down his neck.
11- 2010 & 2011 - Manny Pacquiao agrees to Floyd's demands of random testing...Floyd goes silent.
12- 2013 - Manny agrees to take a lesser cut of the purse...Floyd demands even more in order to price himself out of the fight.
13- Floyd prices himself out again offering $40M
14- I was severely dehydrated (when asked why he needed an illegal IV before the fight)—yet in an interview with Jim Gray after the fight he says “It has always been easy for me to make the 147-pound weight.” He only weight 150 just 30 days prior to the fight, how was he so dehydrated losing only three pounds in a month?
15- When asked why he performed so poorly in the first Castillo fight which many believe Floyd lost, he said he injured his shoulder. Yet he would mock Manny for the same excuse (at least Manny’s injury was real)
16- Manny fights catch weights (Floyd himself fought CW vs Marquez and Canelo)
17- Manny fights my leftovers (Manny destroyed similar opponents and Floyd would also go on to fight Manny leftovers...JMM, Cotto)
18- Retired in his prime to avoid DLH rematch, Margarito and prime Manny, Cotto, Mosley, Williams)
19- Manny has Marquez issues
20- After calling out Winky at 154 amd Wright calling his bluff, and drafting up contract, he moved the goal post and priced himself out of the fight.
Lol. This is hilarious but all true......
1- Manny needs to do blood testing up to day prior to fight
2- Manny PPV numbers not high enough
3- Manny needs to leave Arum
4- Where was he in the 90’s?
5- Manny not good enough
6- I’m afraid for my family
7- He came up from 106 (so did Floyd as an amateur)
8- He has losses (Manny and Mosley)
9- Manny’s win over Rios doesn’t count, it was a comedy act
10- 2008 - Floyd "retires" when he takes a hard look around the division and sees a PRIME Cotto, Margarito, and Pacquiao breathing down his neck.
11- 2010 & 2011 - Manny Pacquiao agrees to Floyd's demands of random testing...Floyd goes silent.
12- 2013 - Manny agrees to take a lesser cut of the purse...Floyd demands even more in order to price himself out of the fight.
13- Floyd prices himself out again offering $40M
14- I was severely dehydrated (when asked why he needed an illegal IV before the fight)—yet in an interview with Jim Gray after the fight he says “It has always been easy for me to make the 147-pound weight.” He only weight 150 just 30 days prior to the fight, how was he so dehydrated losing only three pounds in a month?
15- When asked why he performed so poorly in the first Castillo fight which many believe Floyd lost, he said he injured his shoulder. Yet he would mock Manny for the same excuse (at least Manny’s injury was real)
16- Manny fights catch weights (Floyd himself fought CW vs Marquez and Canelo)
17- Manny fights my leftovers (Manny destroyed similar opponents and Floyd would also go on to fight Manny leftovers...JMM, Cotto)
18- Retired in his prime to avoid DLH rematch, Margarito and prime Manny, Cotto, Mosley, Williams)
19- Manny has Marquez issues
20- After calling out Winky at 154 amd Wright calling his bluff, and drafting up contract, he moved the goal post and priced himself out of the fight.
Excellent Post
I will say any momentum shane had after whooping Margarito was lost. He had a 16 month layoff between those 2 fights.
Shane could have fought him sooner but a toothache got in the way.
Mayweather put together a great record and needs no excuses but sometimes he says stuff he doesn't backup. I remember him saying that Pac should not have fought Cotto at a catchweight and bragging that he only fights guys at their best and most comfortable weight because he fought Cotto at 154 while Manny had fought Cotto at a catchweight of 145. But then he made Canelo come in at a catchweight of 152 or no fight when Canelo's best and most comfortable weight was the Jr middleweight limit of 154.
1- Manny needs to do blood testing up to day prior to fight
2- Manny PPV numbers not high enough
3- Manny needs to leave Arum
4- Where was he in the 90’s?
5- Manny not good enough
6- I’m afraid for my family
7- He came up from 106 (so did Floyd as an amateur)
8- He has losses (Manny and Mosley)
9- Manny’s win over Rios doesn’t count, it was a comedy act
10- 2008 - Floyd "retires" when he takes a hard look around the division and sees a PRIME Cotto, Margarito, and Pacquiao breathing down his neck.
11- 2010 & 2011 - Manny Pacquiao agrees to Floyd's demands of random testing...Floyd goes silent.
12- 2013 - Manny agrees to take a lesser cut of the purse...Floyd demands even more in order to price himself out of the fight.
13- Floyd prices himself out again offering $40M
14- I was severely dehydrated (when asked why he needed an illegal IV before the fight)—yet in an interview with Jim Gray after the fight he says “It has always been easy for me to make the 147-pound weight.” He only weight 150 just 30 days prior to the fight, how was he so dehydrated losing only three pounds in a month?
15- When asked why he performed so poorly in the first Castillo fight which many believe Floyd lost, he said he injured his shoulder. Yet he would mock Manny for the same excuse (at least Manny’s injury was real)
16- Manny fights catch weights (Floyd himself fought CW vs Marquez and Canelo)
17- Manny fights my leftovers (Manny destroyed similar opponents and Floyd would also go on to fight Manny leftovers...JMM, Cotto)
18- Retired in his prime to avoid DLH rematch, Margarito and prime Manny, Cotto, Mosley, Williams)
19- Manny has Marquez issues
20- After calling out Winky at 154 amd Wright calling his bluff, and drafting up contract, he moved the goal post and priced himself out of the fight.
whoah... what... ???
uh, no son... he most certainly did not :lol1::lol1:
2015... is when Pac finally agreed to random blood testing
I am guessing that the rest of your post is also bullshlt
The "Floyd ducked Manny and waited until he was out of his prime" argument is the dumbest I have ever seen. Yeah Manny was old, but Mayweather was 2 years older than him. Mayweather was 38 years old and out his prime during the fight. The result would have been worse if Mayweather was in his prime.
1- Manny needs to do blood testing up to day prior to fight
2- Manny PPV numbers not high enough
3- Manny needs to leave Arum
4- Where was he in the 90’s?
5- Manny not good enough
6- I’m afraid for my family
7- He came up from 106 (so did Floyd as an amateur)
8- He has losses (Manny and Mosley)
9- Manny’s win over Rios doesn’t count, it was a comedy act
10- 2008 - Floyd "retires" when he takes a hard look around the division and sees a PRIME Cotto, Margarito, and Pacquiao breathing down his neck.
11- 2010 & 2011 - Manny Pacquiao agrees to Floyd's demands of random testing...Floyd goes silent.
12- 2013 - Manny agrees to take a lesser cut of the purse...Floyd demands even more in order to price himself out of the fight.
13- Floyd prices himself out again offering $40M
14- I was severely dehydrated (when asked why he needed an illegal IV before the fight)—yet in an interview with Jim Gray after the fight he says “It has always been easy for me to make the 147-pound weight.” He only weight 150 just 30 days prior to the fight, how was he so dehydrated losing only three pounds in a month?
15- When asked why he performed so poorly in the first Castillo fight which many believe Floyd lost, he said he injured his shoulder. Yet he would mock Manny for the same excuse (at least Manny’s injury was real)
16- Manny fights catch weights (Floyd himself fought CW vs Marquez and Canelo)
17- Manny fights my leftovers (Manny destroyed similar opponents and Floyd would also go on to fight Manny leftovers...JMM, Cotto)
18- Retired in his prime to avoid DLH rematch, Margarito and prime Manny, Cotto, Mosley, Williams)
19- Manny has Marquez issues
20- After calling out Winky at 154 amd Wright calling his bluff, and drafting up contract, he moved the goal post and priced himself out of the fight.
1) Canelo was too young for Floyd but not for Cotto
2) Cotto was too old for Floyd at 32 but not too old for Canelo at 34
3) Floyd ducked Margarito who got KO’d by Mosley
4) Mosley was good when beating Margarito but too old in the very next fight against Floyd
5) Marquez was too small for Floyd but KO’d Manny
6) Floyd ducked Manny until Manny got old but Floyd is 2 years older
7) Floyd cherry picked and beat an old Oscar, while Manny didn’t pick an old weight drained Oscar
8) Oscar a Cherry pick at 34, Cotto is great at 34 and Floyd is not washed up at 38
9) Zab Judah was not a great opponent
10) Baldomir beat Zab but Floyd Cherry picked him
11) Maidana gave Floyd a great first fight but Floyd cherry picked the rematch
12) Diego was a good victory but that was a long time ago
13) Castillo first fight Floyd beat him injured, some people had doubt so Floyd showed how he was scared by running it back and we all know what happened in that fight.
14) Floyd KO’d an undefeated Hatton but Manny did it quicker because Hatton wasn’t washed up fighter by then
15) Sweet pea, Ali and Pep had great defence but Floyd is a runner
16) Floyd called out Tszyu for 3 straight fights but was ducking him
17) Gatti wasn’t a good fighter
18)Floyd cheap shotted Ortiz but that head butt was justified
19)Floyd was 152 against a 165 Canelo but Floyd had the weight advantage due to the 152 catch weight Canelo asked for
20) Floyd defeated 24 World champions and they were all not good.
:lol1: :lol1:
6 years and 20 posts. You really make us wait for all the wisdom and boxing knowledge wrapped up in that 75 IQ brain now don't ya!!
Think the 60 in his username is his actual IQ.
9) Zab Judah was not a great opponent
he so clearly was i mean losing to a random bum like baldomir proves how great he was
I guess losing to Torrecampo must prove the same thing.