GGG's next fight? Lol...

Yeah, Golovkin was stripped of his title when he wouldn't fight his mandatory Derevyanchenko. But that was because he chose to fight Vanes instead. Which was NOT a unification hence it didn't trump his mandatory obligations. Yeah I didn't think I had to explain that because it was obvious and that discussion was all over NSB when it happened. The reality is fight the man now so you don't have to worry about manditories and avoid paying a step aside. Another point does the IBF recognize Canelo as a Champion?? Does anybody really know? The IBF is very strict about their manditories and it's not unrealistic to think they may not accept the WBC franchise belt as sutible for "unification trumps manditories" since Canelo has no manditory fights according to the WBC. Golovkin can avoid all of this by fighting What's His Name now.

UNIFICATIONS TRUMP MANDATORIES. Golovkin was already stripped of his title by the IBF when he did not fight his manditory and opted to fight Vsnes. The circumstances were unusual because Canelo failed his drug test and Golovkin didn't want to fight Derev on short notice. Seeing how dangerous Derev turned out to be it was the best strategic decision. It's simply better to get his manditory out of the way now and have one less headache to deal with if there is a serious attempt at making a third fight. One expensive headache would be paying the manditory a step aside fee. Yeah, Golovkin was stripped of his title when he wouldn't fight his mandatory Derevyanchenko. But that was because he chose to fight Vanes instead. Which was NOT a unification hence it didn't trump his mandatory obligations.

When one is claiming that everyone ducked GGG including a man who fought him twice...there must come a point when you realise the argument has a flaw.

If Golovkin fights Derev again or either Charlo and Andrade and gets past them then UNIFICATIONS TRUMP MANDATORIES. The Canelo fight could happen and this Kamil Szereta can wait. But noooooo....Golovkin decides to jump directly to the easiest cherry he can get like usual. Never mind that DAZN is overpaying him in order to attract new subscribers. He doesn't care about them or about his responsibilities to his broadcast partner. UNIFICATIONS TRUMP MANDATORIES. Golovkin was already stripped of his title by the IBF when he did not fight his manditory and opted to fight Vsnes. The circumstances were unusual because Canelo failed his drug test and Golovkin didn't want to fight Derev on short notice. Seeing how dangerous Derev turned out to be it was the best strategic decision. It's simply better to get his manditory out of the way now and have one less headache to deal with if there is a serious attempt at making a third fight. One expensive headache would be paying the manditory a step aside fee.

Who cares? GGG is not gonna go down as a HOF’er or ATG, and he’s not known to fight the toughest challenges. Some people have too high expectations from him. If you know GGG then you know this is in line with his usual opponents.

Haters are too dumb to realize a 36 year old Golovkin is the diva's best win.

froch was retired...so a guy didnt want to come out of retirement? chavez didnt duck him....arum was trying to resign him to an extension....if he signed the extension he was going to pay chavez 10 mil to fight golovkin...if he didnt he would only pay him 7.....chavez wasnt down with it....that was the beef that killed that fight its funny though that when guys like cotto and martinez take fights with each other that make money and do well its considered them ducking golovkin....but if golovkin does something that makes smart financial sense(ie ducking ward to wait another 1.8 years to finally fight canelo) its considered smart.....martinez fought cotto because it would be an easier fight worth more money....when cotto got the belt he decided canelo fight would be easier fight for more money......and they were both right....in that the opponents they chose were the better financial decision if guys like that do something like they are "duckers"...but if someone you like does it becomes "smart and the obvious choice"......why would martinez fight the lesser known golovkin when a big cotto matchup in nyc is there....why would cotto fight the lesser known golovkin when a big payday with canelo is there?

You act like you're some nonbiased boxing sage. You're not. You're as biased as any of those you accuse. are you going to tell me youve never seen the same guys, that trash kov as an opponent for canelo and claim losses to ward, turn around and say kov was robbed in kov/ward threads and not give ward any credit? of course im biased...im biased towards what i see as the truth youre out here pretending like you dont know what im talking about...like youve never seen ward/kov threads around here....i guess you turn a blind eye then huh?

Those are the best names on his entire resume. And they only came about within the last few years of his career. Lol...most fighters fight their best opposition towards the end of their careers...and GGG had like 10-15 other solid names on his list too...but because he KOed them people say they suck...just hating imo.

I find it ironic that someone whose name is dontbeahater says GGG won't fight anyone good despite him fighting guys like Canelo, Jacobs and Dervychenko. What was that you said about spinning crap without facts?:newbie: Those are the best names on his entire resume. And they only came about within the last few years of his career.

You're a very dubious source to be honest. this place IS THE SOURCE! all you have to do is take a look around...and read kov/ward threads...do u think im making this up out of thin air? its all here in the post history man....stop trying to act like im making stuff up literally every golovkin fan/canelo hater/ward hater says that kov was robbed and then cheated....plain and simple...go through the threads if you think im lying...come back and give me a report(my guess is youll say you dont care or dont have time)....but apparently you do care.... but when it comes to canelo/kov they are telling us how kov lost twice

That's a question you should ask to people who think Kova was robbed and cheated in the Ward fights. which is basically every golovkin fan/canelo hater/ward hater

Money talks. If Canelo wanted that fight badly enough they would have made it happen. For instance DAZN could have agreed to remove Bivol from that meaningless Lenin Castillo fight the week prior and some financial compensation would have probably been enough to get the deal done. FOTD bull***** wasn't a real factor so lets not pretend it was. Its just icing on the cake and the cake was the reputation Kovalev built up to and including the Andre Ward fights. It wasn't about getting the best possible light heavyweight champion because Kovalev wasn't that guy. Some people might go that direction sure. Not me. But take those comments to those people it applies to. Don't get me wrong. A former 154lb champion stepping up to beat a guy who is at worst the 4th best light heavyweight in the world is still an accomplishment. Its a nice feather in Canelo's cap. But there are a lot of people who are in line to blow that ginger basterd as if he beat the King of the division in his prime and not a guy who lost 3 of his previous 7 fights with two losses by KO. I would have much preferred Canelo took a fight against one of the many non-shop worn champions between 160 and 175 (Charlo,Andrade, Callum Smith, Caleb Plant, Dimitri Bivol, Artur Bieterbiev, Olyxander Gvosk etc.). I understand the business reasons why Kovalev was chosen but since none of us will see a dime from it I don't know why any of us would give a fu ck. I just want to see the best fight the best. While Kovalev/Canelo was an interesting matchup its far down the list of interesting matchups that could be made. P.S: After a week or so of arguing with people about the Kovalev/Canelo fight I am of the opinion that the idea of this version of Kovalev was more interesting matchup for Canelo than the idea of a trilogy bout with GGG. Cherry pick as it was it was still a fresh matchup with a slight possibility of a KO loss for Canelo. alot of people are in line to blow people for alot less...ya know? again everyone points out to kovs recent track record, which includes the ward fights, as a detriment when hes matched up with canelo when they talk about ward/kova though they say kova was robbed and cheated...so which one is it?

Losing to Andre ward who is HOF p4p #1 when he retired and avenging his loss to yarde is not the same as losing to a bum. There are no excuses for GGG. He won't move up for a challenge, he won't fight anyone good in his own class. Still unproven. Whatever crap spin you guys want to tell yourself doesn't stop facts. More or less shows you guys might be paid shills.

His past accomplishments are the only reason he was ranked that high. I don't think any of the people who ranked Kovalev so high thought he would last much longer as champion with the competition in that division. That's why Canelo was so thirsty for him. He wanted to take Kovalev's belt while he still had a belt to take. I mean hell, you go so far as to point out that Nail vs. Beterbiev was already signed but so was the deal for Kovalev vs. Yarde. That didn't stop Canelo from trying to bribe Kovalev into killing the fight. If he wanted anything to do with Nail or Beterbiev he could have done the same at a steep discount. He didn't. Why? Because he knew which champion was ripe for the picking. Bivol has beaten Issac Chilemba, Jean Pascal, Sullivan Barerra and Joe Smith Jr in his first 16 fights. That's a solid resume. He hasn't had the chance to fight anyone truly elite yet but so far he seems to be willing to fight Beterbiev on espn or even move down to 168 to fight guys. So hopefully we'll see him against elite guys soon. I like Bivol a lot as a fighter. I would certainly give him more of a chance than Kovalev. I never gave Kovalev more than a punchers shot from the day Canelo first talked about the fight. I haven't liked how Kovalev looked in a fight since that last loss to Ward. The nail vs Kovalev was a unification fight that neither guy was going to back out of nor be able to back out(you act like espn would let them). Yes nelo tried buying out dumb yarde because he wasn't worth much with no belt & was just a mandatory whom could step aside. Also Kovalev was the only name lhw champ who would sell & bring dazn subs as well as help nelo win FOTD,duh. If he faced another lhw champ you'd be saying he ducked the other guys,if he picked Beterbieve youd say" it was because he was kd by a bum",gvoz youd say hes scared of Beterbieve & vice versa. Youd also say kovs schooling of yarde scared him. Therese difference between that & Beterbieve vs gvoz. You are so fvll of crap for acting like Kovalev was a cherrypick for nelo or as if it wasn't him fighting a still top lhw.

If Golovkin fights Derev again or either Charlo and Andrade and gets past them then UNIFICATIONS TRUMP MANDATORIES. The Canelo fight could happen and this Kamil Szereta can wait. But noooooo....Golovkin decides to jump directly to the easiest cherry he can get like usual. Never mind that DAZN is overpaying him in order to attract new subscribers. He doesn't care about them or about his responsibilities to his broadcast partner. Then they will stop the fight by saying What's His Name isn't acceptable. I don't like this fight either. Personally I think he should forget about Canelo. He's going to get or not get that fight regardless if he has a title. Just rematch Derevyanchenko. Derev earned another shot at him. If he loses then just call it a day.

It's the IBF... they almost always have garbage mandatory challengers but if you ignore them, you get stripped. The IBF hasn't even ordered the mandatory yet. But Golovkin was super proactive I guess. He jumped on that cherry with a quickness. :lol1:

It's the IBF... they almost always have garbage mandatory challengers but if you ignore them, you get stripped.

Look at it this way. Golovkin fights either Derev again or either Charlo and Andrade and gets past them. Then the IBF orders that he faces his manditory. How does that work out for a rematch since Canelo is insisting that Golovkin have a belt or he's not interested. The IBF is very strict about enforcing their manditories and Canelo is being very stubborn about not fighting Golovkin again. If Golovkin fights Derev again or either Charlo and Andrade and gets past them then UNIFICATIONS TRUMP MANDATORIES. The Canelo fight could happen and this Kamil Szereta can wait. But noooooo....Golovkin decides to jump directly to the easiest cherry he can get like usual. Never mind that DAZN is overpaying him in order to attract new subscribers. He doesn't care about them or about his responsibilities to his broadcast partner.

Kovalev was not the #1 ranked champion. How the hell was he the #1 ranked champion when he was only 2 fights removed from a KO loss. Because he was consensus#1 lhw when he signed to fight Nelo by majority of rankings. Do you even understand how boxing works? Resume is the most important thing a boxer possesses. Yes Kovalev was 2 fights removed from a ko loss(in a fight he was winning but got caught)& he redeemed himself by doing what AJ will be worshipped for eternally if he pulls off. That is winning every rd of rematch against the guy who kod him without taking a tune up. He then did the same thing basically & kod another undefeated prime fighter back to back in Yarde after E.Alvarez. Kovalev was ranked as the best lhw because Bivol is average, inexperienced,& has less power.(beaten nobody truly elite),Nail vs Beterbieve was already signed & most had the nail as a big favorite by ko even ffs(except me & a few ppl on here who said that was stupid considering the nail is not a naturally gifted power puncher just because old Stevensons brain finally gave out unexpectedly in a fight he was winning). Beterbieve has been dropped badly by a complete C- level & was being written off by many. So yes when Canelo signed Kovalev he was rightfully picked as #1 lhw & no worse than #2 by almost all of the rankings. Right now if Kovalev hadn't yet faced Nelo hed be considered the #2 lhw champ still with Beterbieve having been promoted up.(Beterbieve was also inactive for a while)Go watch Bivol fight & come back & tell me whether he looks like he can beat lhw Nelo.