Are you playing stupid? The evidence we have is the fight itself, multiple posters presented logical reasons as to why Kovalev performed the way he did.
Not only are you a nutcase, you have amnesia as well. You forgot the back and forth you had with Aboutfkntime? You're embarrassing yourself.
The duty falls on the deranged to prove their nonsensical theories, so we need you to keep investigating this matter for us. Keep us updated.
THAT ISN'T EVIDENCE, FOOL. :rolleyes:
Keep this up and you'll be getting more red K.
You are alone in these threads. Well maybe just 4 others whom feel salty too. ;)
I'm convinced he's in the looney bin as we speak. He's a certified JCat.
You've stepped in an obvious trap, sop****re.
Show me examples of this. ZERO people presented or even attempted to present ANY evidence, dumb*****.
But then how could they anyway? "Evidence" that it wasn't a fix? You are beyond stupid, my god.
Are you playing stupid? The evidence we have is the fight itself, multiple posters presented logical reasons as to why Kovalev performed the way he did.
Still, what's even better is you go on to completely INVENT complete falseness about how I fictionally responded after that. :lol1: For what reason? Why?
Not only are you a nutcase, you have amnesia as well. You forgot the back and forth you had with Aboutfkntime? You're embarrassing yourself.
The duty falls on the deranged to prove their nonsensical theories, so we need you to keep investigating this matter for us. Keep us updated.
I’m pound for pound on these mean streets, son. At least TRY to refute a point. Don’t be scared. Enter the ring
P4p with a solid red K bar :thumbsdow
Retire your account ya pathetic dunce
Lol. Don’t make it obvious with your subtext to hate on Mexicans. I’m glad your week on boxing has been shattered. ;)
You'll be doing three ways with De La Hoya when I'm done with you.
You are alone in these threads. Well maybe just 4 others whom feel salty too. ;)
When you're done with Canelo's nuts you can work for me, prostitute. I'll pimp you out to all the freckled, redheaded Mexican men I know.
Here is more about Campbell. Apparently a great boxer who was not allowed to fight his best and win. There's a book.
He was said to be the first to risk it and testify. A brave and great man. And a boxer that we can never know how far he could have gone
https://www.kcur.org/post/tommy-campbell-greatest-kansas-city-boxer-youve-never-heard#stream/0
It’s ok, stay in your lane. I didn’t think you’d have courage to refute anything. That queer ass documentary contextualized the history of boxing before the feds got into it heavy. But you can live in the past. Enjoy Canelo’s future fights with the tin foil hat!
The coward runs.
Here is an an eye opening article about CA Governor in 1955 Proving How Corrupt/Fixed
boxing was throughout state
https://www.si.com/vault/1956/04/02/597322/the-fix-in-california
From Sports Illustrated.
Testimony from Tommy Campbell.
Good for you.
Saw parts. Appears to be very good. By a CNN journalist. Award winning.
My only complaint is that it appears to say that it's all and only about money when it goes deeper and worse than that.
But why argue with shills and agents like Lt. He will never say a word of truth. You won't change these shills and agents. It's clear what you can do.
Thank you again for pointing to a good documentary.
It's been going on for a long time.
On December 15, 1923, following a match between Frankie Schoell and Dave Shade, referee Dave Miller told reporters he was offered $500 to fix the match in favor of Schoell.
November 17, 1924: Boxers Fred Fulton and Tony Fuente were accused of fixing a fight in Los Angeles, California. The match lasted 35 seconds with Fuente throwing two punches. It was the last match fought under state rules that prohibited boxers from winning cash prizes.
On January 29, 1939, heavyweight boxer Harry Thomas confessed that he participated in two fixed matches. The first was on December 13, 1937 against Max Schmeling in which Thomas lost by technical knockout (TKO) in the eight round. The second fight took place on November 14, 1938 against Tony Galento in which Thomas was defeated by TKO in the third round. Thomas was paid $8,500 for fixing the Schmeling fight and $23,000 for fixing the Galento fight.
In 1947, grand jury proceedings in New York revealed a plot to fix a match between Rocky Graziano and Ruben Shank that was scheduled for December 27, 1946. Graziano called the match off on Christmas Eve saying he had developed a "mild sacroiliac condition".
In 1949, the Michigan Boxing Commission investigated a fight between welterweights Kid Gavilán and Lester Felton, which resulted in a split 2–1 decision for Felton. Gavilán told commission he believed the referee helped Felton fix the match.
Both Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston fights in 1964 and 1965 were suspected of being fixed, but the allegations were never proven.
In 1993, Sports Illustrated reported that several fights arranged by boxing promoter Rick "Elvis" Parker were fixed according to boxer Sonny Barch, who claimed he was approached by Parker and told to lose the fight against Randall "Tex" Cobb scheduled on September 15, 1993. Cobb knocked out Barch in the first-round.
Barch also claimed to have knowledge of another fix which occurred on the same card as his fight between football player turned boxer Mark Gastineau and Rick Hoard. In that match, Gastineau won by a technical knockout in the first round.
Cobb denied the claims and sued Sports Illustrated for libel. He was awarded $10.7 million by a federal jury in 1999. The verdict was reversed on appeal on January 31, 2002
Good.
But did you leave out one of the best proofs?
LaMotta testified under oath to the US Senate in 1960 or so, that his fight with Billy Fox was fixed by Mob to get title shot.
https://www.gambling.com/news/the-fix-why-jake-lamotta-threw-his-1947-fight-with-billy-fox-2122400
In that fix, it was just like I had predicted that Kovalev would not throw hard to Canelo.
My prediction on Kov vs Canelo is here
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=831340
I’m pound for pound on these mean streets, son. At least TRY to refute a point. Don’t be scared. Enter the ring
I understand why Canelo means so much to you. Your self worth is as real as his accomplishments.
I think your comprehension of boxing is very immature. First off, you’re agreeing with Robbie about “robberies” yet your angle is the Fight was fixed. You do realize it’s not the same thing. Because of your confusion, you’re not even consistent with your agenda..lol
Of course there are about 10k pro boxers worldwide. Do you know how many startup fights teams and managers invest in to get circulation for higher rankings? This is common practice from the prospect world. The purest from the skill come from the USA, then Russia, Cuba, Kazakh etc...
Look at Gennady’s first pro fight. Look at how that guy moves in the ring. It’s as if he’s not a pro boxer at all, yet he was chosen for a Silver medalist. That guy knew he wasn’t going to beat GGG. Is that’s a “fix” or a “robbery?” Didn’t GGG know he was going to beat that guy? Isn’t it common sense? Does that mean you want to discredit GGG because he knew his first pro fight was a fluke. Look at GGG’s first opponent’s resume today. He made a choice to be a dive boxer, just like flukes in Buck Smith. They exist... it’s not even unheard for classic skilled journeyman like a Luis Collazo to play the part for Haymon.
Kovalev losing still gets him fights and pays on DAZN next. Why would Kovalev take punishment going 12? that makes no sense health wise and for his “optimistic” fights to come on DAZN. He could’ve took a body shot and milked it. Isn’t that the most logical reason to convince fans of a realistic KO when everyone banked in Canelo to win by body shots?
You went out of your way to specifically say Canelo’s combo finish was staged by Kova himself.
You’re either enjoying trying to play stupid or you’re stupid!
Look how stupid this fool is.
And then he writes a novel filled with nonsensical meanderings.
Are you in competition with the others for the Special Olympics? No gold medals here. No attention. Nobody cares.
You're a moron. I didn't see anyone in the poll thread state that fights couldn't be fixed. They were stating their case for the Kovalev-Canelo fight not being fixed and presented you with evidence as to why it wasn't.
You rejected them all because you're dead set on believing it was fixed, no amount of evidence to the contrary will change your mind, you're a stubborn fool, only punch to the face will make you come to your senses.
You've stepped in an obvious trap, sop****re.
Show me examples of this. ZERO people presented or even attempted to present ANY evidence, dumb*****.
But then how could they anyway? "Evidence" that it wasn't a fix? You are beyond stupid, my god.
Still, what's even better is you go on to completely INVENT complete falseness about how I fictionally responded after that. :lol1: For what reason? Why?
Was the point of my last post to debate Canelo's ranking?
You're too stupid to talk to me, boy.
You're a moron. I didn't see anyone in the poll thread state that fights couldn't be fixed. They were stating their case for the Kovalev-Canelo fight not being fixed and presented you with evidence as to why it wasn't.
You rejected them all because you're dead set on believing it was fixed, no amount of evidence to the contrary will change your mind, you're a stubborn fool, only a punch to the face will make you come to your senses.
It's been going on for a long time.
On December 15, 1923, following a match between Frankie Schoell and Dave Shade, referee Dave Miller told reporters he was offered $500 to fix the match in favor of Schoell.
November 17, 1924: Boxers Fred Fulton and Tony Fuente were accused of fixing a fight in Los Angeles, California. The match lasted 35 seconds with Fuente throwing two punches. It was the last match fought under state rules that prohibited boxers from winning cash prizes.
On January 29, 1939, heavyweight boxer Harry Thomas confessed that he participated in two fixed matches. The first was on December 13, 1937 against Max Schmeling in which Thomas lost by technical knockout (TKO) in the eight round. The second fight took place on November 14, 1938 against Tony Galento in which Thomas was defeated by TKO in the third round. Thomas was paid $8,500 for fixing the Schmeling fight and $23,000 for fixing the Galento fight.
In 1947, grand jury proceedings in New York revealed a plot to fix a match between Rocky Graziano and Ruben Shank that was scheduled for December 27, 1946. Graziano called the match off on Christmas Eve saying he had developed a "mild sacroiliac condition".
In 1949, the Michigan Boxing Commission investigated a fight between welterweights Kid Gavilán and Lester Felton, which resulted in a split 2–1 decision for Felton. Gavilán told commission he believed the referee helped Felton fix the match.
Both Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston fights in 1964 and 1965 were suspected of being fixed, but the allegations were never proven.
In 1993, Sports Illustrated reported that several fights arranged by boxing promoter Rick "Elvis" Parker were fixed according to boxer Sonny Barch, who claimed he was approached by Parker and told to lose the fight against Randall "Tex" Cobb scheduled on September 15, 1993. Cobb knocked out Barch in the first-round.
Barch also claimed to have knowledge of another fix which occurred on the same card as his fight between football player turned boxer Mark Gastineau and Rick Hoard. In that match, Gastineau won by a technical knockout in the first round.
Cobb denied the claims and sued Sports Illustrated for libel. He was awarded $10.7 million by a federal jury in 1999. The verdict was reversed on appeal on January 31, 2002