You're an idiot. Those guys you made examples of didn't have to bulk up, they were already rehydrating by large amounts in those lower weights.
Like for example Canelo. Canelo I recorded to have rehydrated up to 172lbs when he was still fighting at 154.
That's why he can fight at Light Heavyweight now. Bhop was also rehydrating to the 170s even while he was a Middleweight.
You have no grasp of this topic whatsoever. You act like you do, but you know nothing.
Hopkins goes into great details about how he used Mackie Shilstone to help him bulk up for Tarver, so he came into the ring at a ready 185, and still put on a good performance. I mean, you might think you know more about it than Hopkins himself but the rest of the world would probably take hes word over yours. Yes, Canelo used to enter the ring at 170 when he was light middle. But he entered at 180 to 182 the other night according to him. Gaining muscle while keeping skill level isnt rocket science. You need to drag yourself into the modern era instead of making yourself look so ignorant. Its abit embarrassing now.. 😂
You seem to know nothing about modern strength and conditioning methods. From Hopkins bulking up to fight Tarver to Jones vs Ruiz, fighters have successfully bulked up past their natural weights throughout modern history. Only reason Floyd didnt is because Floyd didn't have to. If he felt he needed to, he would. Plus people who know boxing like Bhop, Ward and Floyd himself explain that skills are more important often enough. Course, a emotional little prick like you never thought of something so simple, did you? 😂
You're an idiot. Those guys you made examples of didn't have to bulk up, they were already rehydrating by large amounts in those lower weights.
Like for example Canelo. Canelo I recorded to have rehydrated up to 172lbs when he was still fighting at 154.
That's why he can fight at Light Heavyweight now. Bhop was also rehydrating to the 170s even while he was a Middleweight.
You have no grasp of this topic whatsoever. You act like you do, but you know nothing.
You some kind of idiot? How is he supposed to come in at 156 if he can't even come at 152?
Where is the extra weight going to come from?
Or do you think he intentionally tried to get a 15lbs weight disadvantage?
You seem to know nothing about modern strength and conditioning methods. From Hopkins bulking up to fight Tarver to Jones vs Ruiz, fighters have successfully bulked up past their natural weights throughout modern history. Only reason Floyd didnt is because Floyd didn't have to. If he felt he needed to, he would. Plus people who know boxing like Bhop, Ward and Floyd himself explain that skills are more important often enough. Course, a emotional little prick like you never thought of something so simple, did you? 😂
who takes the W at lets say CW of 160 currently and how?
- -TUE 50-0 wouldn't take Martinez and then GGG offers to drop to 154.
Debutante Banty Tenshin is current TUE level now.
The point is Floyd beat a decent champion at 154 in Delahoya. It doesnt matter if he came in at 150,he still won the fight. Especially skilled champions can overcome weight with skill. Its been done all through boxing history. Floyd at the time of the Oscar fight outboxes any version of Canelo. Canelo cant hit him with anything to make the weight count. A tiny bit of strength conditioning, Floyd comes in at 156 and beats Canelo out of sight. Surely your super intellect can comprehend this?
You some kind of idiot? How is he supposed to come in at 156 if he can't even come at 152?
Where is the extra weight going to come from?
Or do you think he intentionally tried to get a 15lbs weight disadvantage?
The point still eludes your small mind.
The point if, if Floyd can't even make a 152lbs catchweight on fight night, there is NO WAY he gonna be able to fight at 160.
The point is Floyd beat a decent champion at 154 in Delahoya. It doesnt matter if he came in at 150,he still won the fight. Especially skilled champions can overcome weight with skill. Its been done all through boxing history. Floyd at the time of the Oscar fight outboxes any version of Canelo. Canelo cant hit him with anything to make the weight count. A tiny bit of strength conditioning, Floyd comes in at 156 and beats Canelo out of sight. Surely your super intellect can comprehend this?
Actually it was a simple question. Did he fight Oscar at the 154 limit or not. If he did, theres your 154 Floyd, whether he entered the ring lighter than that or not.
The point still eludes your small mind.
The point if, if Floyd can't even make a 152lbs catchweight on fight night, there is NO WAY he gonna be able to fight at 160.
Gayweather faced a green weight drained canelo.
Prime for prime canelo destroys that fairy and Floyd knows it too.
Some facts for you.
1) Canelo has just defeated Trout for his world title, in prime Trout who had just white washed Miguel Cotto for the title. Lol, so green my azz.
2) Canelo had more pro fights than Floyd when they fought. So again, Green my azz.
3) Canelo had a 15lbs weight advantage when they entered the ring.
4) Tell me was Canelo still Green when he lost to Lara? Was he green when he struggled with GGG and Jacobs?
6) You need mental help for even insinuating that the cherry picker was anywhere near Floyd's level at any point. He got white washed by a 36 year old man, and that now 42 year old would white wash him again.
The Canelo that we've seen over the last 4 or 5 years would beat Mayweather handily. Would likely KO him if the fight was above 155 lbs. Canelo was a fighter that was still in the growing stages of his career when they fought. Even a year after that fight Canelo had improved noticeably. Three or four years after that Canelo was MUCH better, much stronger, more explosive, more intelligent in the ring, better defensively....and shockingly his stamina improved a lot. Today's Canelo is not the kid who fought Mayweather...Timing is everything in this sport....Look how Kovalev and Canelo played out...Does anyone think that Canelo would have been KOing Kovalev 3 years ago? Would Canelo have even survived the 12 rounds against Kovalev 3 years ago.....I highly doubt it. Fighters change..., they grow, improve and eventually fade and decline.
"kid"
He was 23
Gayweather faced a green weight drained canelo.
Prime for prime canelo destroys that fairy and Floyd knows it too.
I agree...and I'm not a big fan of Canelo.....although I have to admit, he's a great fighter.
The Canelo that we've seen over the last 4 or 5 years would beat Mayweather handily. Would likely KO him if the fight was above 155 lbs. Canelo was a fighter that was still in the growing stages of his career when they fought. Even a year after that fight Canelo had improved noticeably. Three or four years after that Canelo was MUCH better, much stronger, more explosive, more intelligent in the ring, better defensively....and shockingly his stamina improved a lot. Today's Canelo is not the kid who fought Mayweather...Timing is everything in this sport....Look how Kovalev and Canelo played out...Does anyone think that Canelo would have been KOing Kovalev 3 years ago? Would Canelo have even survived the 12 rounds against Kovalev 3 years ago.....I highly doubt it. Fighters change..., they grow, improve and eventually fade and decline.
You need improve your reading comprehension. Clearly the point went right over your head.
Actually it was a simple question. Did he fight Oscar at the 154 limit or not. If he did, theres your 154 Floyd, whether he entered the ring lighter than that or not.
Floyd wins again but tougher fight this time as Canelo’s experience last time and since will pay dividends to make it a real fight!
Floyd wins a 8-4 type fight
Floyd was 37yrs old and 150lbs, Canelo was 23yrs old and 165lbs homie. He walked that man down and didnt get touched.
:lol1: Damn you fools are stuck-on-stupid! Nelo weighed in over 160 when they did fight :dunce:
Canelo weighed only 165 for the fight meaning he was about a gallon shy of being able to rehydrate himself. You can either realize how important that is or not, it's of no real matter to me.
It is that kind of ignorance though I guess that allows Canelo to get away with pulling that very same trick over and over again and having so many minimize how important a few pounds can be.