So are they just making up champions now?

The canyon belt? :lol1: How about the "legacy" belt? Sorry "champion". Bit of a Swype error there... :sombrero:

How about they start ranking the trainers and give out belts to them based on the number of wins their fighters have. Then they could start rating the cutmen and ring card girls etc.. Would the trainers have to pay sanctioning fees Roflmfao

Love the sport but don’t give a **** who’s WC. 5+ WC titles is beyond a joke.

I don’t know what’s worse...the wbc crowning another “franchise champion”, or giving Haney a world title when he’s fought nobody. The regular canyon belt is worse. I don't care about them giving pearl, diamond, Mayan belts etc. They're joke belts. Give them away in Christmas *******s for all I care. But when you start giving away your actual regular champion belt you make that worthless too.

just blame al haymon!!!!!!!!

I am willing to accept that. However, if you have watched all of Loma's pro career, I think the attributes of a fighter that has the best chance to beat him-taller bigger, longer arms, faster and more athletic,- Haney has all of those attributes which IMO would've made for a great style matchup. I get it-the WBC's 3% they get is much bigger when the fighter is a bigger draw. Yeah, as a fight in itself I could definitely go for it, with the sole reservation that I'd rather see the wunderkind actually face a little adversity first... thing is there's gonna be a never ending stream of fabulous looking young talent coming through, but many will fall flat on their faces when they first face a real challenge. I don't really want to see that happen against one of the best in the world, that's what gatekeepers are for. I know Devin's mando, but for me I'd like to see him face someone a little more proven than Abdullaev first. Regardless I kinda hope he does get the shot, although I'd rather see Loma vs Tank or the Lopez - Commey winner while Devin gets a semi decent opponent under his belt. EDIT: Not, of course, that I'm expecting we'll be lucky enough to get more than one of those fights, if that. Guess the most likely would be the Lopez - Commey winner, the other two... well, I won't be holding my breath.

So do you think that Haney is ready for that fight right now? I honestly don't know. Of course I would favor Loma going in. I am not confident enough to guarantee a Haney victory,

I am willing to accept that. However, if you have watched all of Loma's pro career, I think the attributes of a fighter that has the best chance to beat him-taller bigger, longer arms, faster and more athletic,- Haney has all of those attributes which IMO would've made for a great style matchup. I get it-the WBC's 3% they get is much bigger when the fighter is a bigger draw. So do you think that Haney is ready for that fight right now?

What in the world is going on with these championships now? So Loma becomes promoted to ‘Franchise’ Champion and Haney becomes a ‘regular’ champion without even doing much... Someone explain to me why the boxing organization is just making sh#t up at this point. This is just getting ridiculous... Agreed. You don't become any kind of champ without actually facing the champion unless they retire or leave the division.

I wouldn't be too swift to assume this was just about avoiding Devin, man, Arum was already on record when Canelo was - what do you call it? Elevated? (Sanctified? Made?) - saying how he basically thought that the franchise championship was a great idea because of what a pain in the ass it was having to make mandos. Make no mistake they would have asked for it regardless of whether it was Devin or or someone else who was the mando just as they would have done it for Canelo regardless of whether Jermall was mando or someone else. It's just about giving the money guys free rein to do exactly as they please - though yeah, sure, part of that could be avoiding the high risk low reward ish. What I'm saying is that this is bigger that the individual opponents and getting hung up on that is probably a diversion. I am willing to accept that. However, if you have watched all of Loma's pro career, I think the attributes of a fighter that has the best chance to beat him-taller bigger, longer arms, faster and more athletic,- Haney has all of those attributes which IMO would've made for a great style matchup. I get it-the WBC's 3% they get is much bigger when the fighter is a bigger draw.

Come on glenn, is that really something a fan should get mad about? Haney got cheated out of the money and prestige of a title fight against one of the top p4p boxers in the sport. According to reports, Loma's promoter went to the wbc asking for this designation., knowing it would eliminate the mando required defense against Haney. The boardroom is a cheap and disgraceful way to win a title, so I understand why he shouldn't celebrate as if he won in the ring, but Haney is the victim here. He should throw TR's cowardliness back in their face. I wouldn't be too swift to assume this was just about avoiding Devin, man, Arum was already on record when Canelo was - what do you call it? Elevated? (Sanctified? Made?) - saying how he basically thought that the franchise championship was a great idea because of what a pain in the ass it was having to make mandos. Make no mistake they would have asked for it regardless of whether it was Devin or or someone else who was the mando just as they would have done it for Canelo regardless of whether Jermall was mando or someone else. It's just about giving the money guys free rein to do exactly as they please - though yeah, sure, part of that could be avoiding the high risk low reward ish. What I'm saying is that this is bigger that the individual opponents and getting hung up on that is probably a diversion.

Why do you assume things about what I say? You make it sound like as if I have some sort of animosity towards Haney. I have more problems with the fact that they created this bogus "Franchise" title. They used that as a tool to promote Loma so they can make an excuse to further elevate Loma's status, while also moving Haney up in the process just so they can say that Haney's one of the top dogs of the division even though he hasn't done much more significant other than winning an eliminator. Respectfully, I was asking because I couldn't tell. If you read the story, TR and Loma asked for the emeritus designation knowing it would eliminate the possibility of him unifying all 4 belts (he said was his stated goal) and eliminated the necessity to fight his mandatory challenger. Haney is the victim here. He gets a title in the boardroom which allows all his detractors to criticize him because he didn't win it in the ring. He also loses the payday you get from fighting Loma. Worse, he loses the bump he'd have gotten from upsetting Loma for the title. I think there should be no ambiguity-the outrage and anger should be directed at TR , Loma, and the WBC.

They're getting pretty creative. Not sure what franchise champion is supposed to even mean. Maybe a dynasty champion next? It's making boxing more of a joke than it already is. This was a horrible idea. Shushhh, man!! Fkn hell! watch what you're saying. The WBC goons could be reading this. Don't give those clowns any more ideas! :rofl:

I'm not sure what you are mad about. You should be mad that the WBC designated Loma emeritus champion because that is BS. It seems you are more upset that Haney was then elevated. Loma is the one benefiting form this decision, not Haney and definitely not us as fans. Why do you assume things about what I say? You make it sound like as if I have some sort of animosity towards Haney. I have more problems with the fact that they created this bogus "Franchise" title. They used that as a tool to promote Loma so they can make an excuse to further elevate Loma's status, while also moving Haney up in the process just so they can say that Haney's one of the top dogs of the division even though he hasn't done much more significant other than winning an eliminator. It just seems like fighters nowadays are just being handed championship titles without having to do much nowadays.

You sure about that. Haney on twitter shouting “youngest champ!” while celebrating like he won the lotto. Which he basically did. Come on glenn, is that really something a fan should get mad about? Haney got cheated out of the money and prestige of a title fight against one of the top p4p boxers in the sport. According to reports, Loma's promoter went to the wbc asking for this designation., knowing it would eliminate the mando required defense against Haney. The boardroom is a cheap and disgraceful way to win a title, so I understand why he shouldn't celebrate as if he won in the ring, but Haney is the victim here. He should throw TR's cowardliness back in their face.

None of the other bodies recognize the Franchise as equal to their belts so I don't reckon so. WBC = WBA Super = IBF = WBO, still. WBC F = ? WBA Regular = ? WBA Gold = ? As far as the WBA is concerned the Regular is a world title and as far as the WBC is concerned the WBC-F is a world title, but as far as the WBC is concern the WBA-Reg is not a world title and as far as the WBA is concerned the WBC-F is not a world title. The WBO has openly condemned the WBC/WBA so I doubt they will recognize the BS anytime soon. Not heard **** from the IBF, maybe they're cooking up their own bull****. There you go undisputed lightweight champion ruined

What in the world is going on with these championships now? So Loma becomes promoted to ‘Franchise’ Champion and Haney becomes a ‘regular’ champion without even doing much... Someone explain to me why the boxing organization is just making sh#t up at this point. This is just getting ridiculous... I'm not sure what you are mad about. You should be mad that the WBC designated Loma emeritus champion because that is BS. It seems you are more upset that Haney was then elevated. Loma is the one benefiting form this decision, not Haney and definitely not us as fans.

Without some kind of structure, obviously we get bull**** where the tops guys won't fight each other. It's sad, really. How do they expect to sell tickets when they don't give the fans the fights they want? In any other sport, you have no choice. It's get your ass out there or go home. Boxing is going through this soft era or some ****. It sucks. True words. I feel as though once they make the best fight the best then everybody is happy and the $$$ rolls in. Issue with that is once they get good ppv numbers or viewings, both boxers promoters want to start making showcase fights assuming it was there fighter that sold those numbers. Perfect example is wilder he’s delusional thinking he sells. Wilder-Fury was a success because both guys fought each other but look at there numbers after this bull**** showcase fights scheme

You might as well make another title called the “Super Duper Champion”. Please don’t give them Any ideas. We don’t know who is reading These forums.

So? Who do you believe is the true champion at each weight? For me, it goes like this. Heavyweight- Andy Ruiz Cruiserweight- Maris Breidis Light Heavyweight- Sergey Kovalev Super Middleweight- Callum Smith Middleweight- Canelo Alvarez Junior Middleweight- J-Rock Welterweight- Spence Super Lightweight- Jose Ramirez Lightweight- Lomachenko Featherweight- Leo Santa Cruz Bantamweight- Naoya Inoue What's your list? After all, the alphabet belts don't mean ****! :boxing: Why not make a whole thread on it? Copy and paste the content here. Let's have our own rankings. Be the pioneer!