All 4 are currently undefeated monster punchers with a mean streak. But who would you say is the most dangerous puncher P4P out of the 4 in your opinion? Who impresses you more so far?
For me it's between Beterbiev and Inoue. I'll take Inoue by a slight margin, he seems to be the most complete fighter of the bunch.
No one is disputing his right hand is serious, i said to claim he is the hardest punching HW of all time (which many have & do) is ridiculous, which you claimed was 'BS'.
Anyone can KO cans. its when they step up and KO top guys is what matters. As for Fury, he was expected to KO fury, even Fury fans were saying he would likely be stopped, this is Furys first real fight in years remember after being, what 400 pounds? I was convinced he would knock fury out in 3-4 rounds tbh...I actually had 500£ on Wilder by KO (and i dont rate wilder at all, i think he is michael grant 2.0).
I was referring to the thread question.
I dont entertain anyone throwing out ATG status over saturday night hype.
Boxing has a long history which needs to be respected. Same reason i have a problem with Floyds TBE claim and Loma getting ATG status when that only applies to his AM career.
But today...Right Now Wilder imo is the most dangerous puncher and its not even close
Wooah i never said all that.
Facts is that right hand serious. Its like that guy Cotto fought i forgot his name the black guy with the huge right hand who knocked out that TopRank prospect Mike Jones or somthing.
That dude aint really beat anyone great but everyone knew he was one of the hardest punchers in recent memory.
Think about this... Wilder has limited skillls so if he fights a great fighter who avoids getting hit flush by him. Does that mean his power is overrated? Fact is Wilder power is real vs c level, b level, or A level fighters which aint too many at heavyweight. Him losing every round to Fury and almost winning by KO in the last round summed up how dangerous that right hand is
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No one is disputing his right hand is serious, i said to claim he is the hardest punching HW of all time (which many have & do) is ridiculous, which you claimed was 'BS'.
Anyone can KO cans. its when they step up and KO top guys is what matters. As for Fury, he was expected to KO fury, even Fury fans were saying he would likely be stopped, this is Furys first real fight in years remember after being, what 400 pounds? I was convinced he would knock fury out in 3-4 rounds tbh...I actually had 500£ on Wilder by KO (and i dont rate wilder at all, i think he is michael grant 2.0).
Great argument bud, saying 'BS' clearly proves me wrong. If you actually read what i wrote my point is, he has never proved his power agaisnt anyone of note, KO'ing a 40 year old Luis Ortiz & a bunch of bums might impress you to declare him the most powerful HW of all time but it does not me.
If he goes on to KO fury in the rematch, AJ, Usyk and one or 2 more top names then you can make an arguent that he is the hardest hitting HW of all time, in the meantime claiming that he is based on next to nothing is disrespectfull to all to heavy hitting HWs of previous era's who proved themselves agaisnt the best, not ****ing chris arraela and eric molina.
Wooah i never said all that.
Facts is that right hand serious. Its like that guy Cotto fought i forgot his name the black guy with the huge right hand who knocked out that TopRank prospect Mike Jones or somthing.
That dude aint really beat anyone great but everyone knew he was one of the hardest punchers in recent memory.
Think about this... Wilder has limited skillls so if he fights a great fighter who avoids getting hit flush by him. Does that mean his power is overrated? Fact is Wilder power is real vs c level, b level, or A level fighters which aint too many at heavyweight. Him losing every round to Fury and almost winning by KO in the last round summed up how dangerous that right hand is
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Inoue has to fight old dog Donaire first lol.... Even Wilder has a better resume than Inoue.
Not true - Inoue KO2 Narvaez is better than any win on Wilder's resume.
Wilder has an unbelievable right hand, it would KO almost any fighter in history, but his resume is poor for a champion with so many defences. He lost to Fury also so isn't undefeated imo, unlike Inoue.
BS..... The point is Wilder has no skills which yall won't let anyone within a 100mile radius forget lol. But manages to knock down every oppenent regardless of who it is.
Damn give the man his props. That right hand is serious.
Great argument bud, saying 'BS' clearly proves me wrong. If you actually read what i wrote my point is, he has never proved his power agaisnt anyone of note, KO'ing a 40 year old Luis Ortiz & a bunch of bums might impress you to declare him the most powerful HW of all time but it does not me.
If he goes on to KO fury in the rematch, AJ, Usyk and one or 2 more top names then you can make an arguent that he is the hardest hitting HW of all time, in the meantime claiming that he is based on next to nothing is disrespectfull to all to heavy hitting HWs of previous era's who proved themselves agaisnt the best, not ****ing chris arraela and eric molina.
So he stopped a midget, a glass chin and a guy whose best win is a glass chin in Shavers.
Like i said again,George was most of the times the bigger guy,Wilder never had a weight advantage and yet he is dropping fools 30+ pounds heavier than him with 10oz gloves something George never did.
Wilder also went on to KO stiverne.
Trying to discredit KO'ing Joe frazier an ATG HOF'er with the greatest left hook of all time by calling him a 'midget' and then a sentence later trying to big up KO'ing ****ing Bermaine Stirverne, who looked like a fat tub of lard who hadnt even bothered to train... like thats some kind of achievement :lol1:
Yeah you are a moronic fangirl.
Reread my last response. It did come across as a bit dick-ish after rereading what I said. I decided to edit that part out. Sorry if I came across as rude.
Nahh u gud... I dont mind shyt talking etc. Im just gon respond lol.
Lmao.... Just responding to yo slick ass comment at the end. Dont mind me i aint ate breakfast yet
Reread my last response. It did come across as a bit dick-ish after rereading what I said. I decided to edit that part out. Sorry if I came across as rude.
Ok, wow. I wasn't even trying to be rude about it when I said that. Don't be so damn sensitive.
Lmao.... Just responding to yo slick ass comment at the end. Dont mind me i aint ate breakfast yet
Calm yo ass down. If u was gon say sum slick shyt then why bother explaining the misunderstanding in the 1st place
Ok, wow. I wasn't even trying to be rude about it when I said that. Don't be so damn sensitive.
EDIT: Upon rereading that it did come across as a bit dick-ish. I'll edit that part out. My apologies.
The guy I dont want to get punched by most is easily Wilder. This shouldnt be hard. However, Inoue, Tank, Beterbiev would have be hurting longer after the fight
Ummm yes I'm fully aware of that.....
I guess you must have misunderstood that part. I asked who the most dangerous puncher was and I said Inoue. I said he was the most complete puncher out of the 4. The reason I said that is because of his technique, speed, timing and his offensive tools (left hook, jab, hook, combinations, body punching, countering), that's makes him the most dangerous puncher IMO. Didn't think I had to spell it out...
Calm yo ass down. If u was gon say sum slick shyt then why bother explaining the misunderstanding in the 1st place
What SI unit is 'ferociousness' measured in?:lol1:
They're all different and all just as effective in a P4P sense... Inoue's rapier accuracy and clever combos, Tank's cobra bite, always coiled, darting in low, fast and deadly, Beterbiev's implacable and demoralising savagery or Wilders predictable but unstoppable OOTP one hitter. Take your pick.
EDIT: And I propose a motion that 'Ferociousness' should henceforth officially be measured in Tysons (Ty).
Haha you make a good point. To be honest I really wasn't sure what term to use and decided to pluck out a random word out of my ass. I just figured people would already know what I'm trying to ask and just let that slide. :D
But you are right, they're all different but just as effective P4P. You described all 4 of them perfectly, that's mainly the reason I made this topic. Just wasn't sure if "ferociousness" was the right word. :lol1:
People who say Wilder is the hardest puncher ever is just ridiculous. Would George Foreman of gone 10 rounds with bums like Eric molina, Johan Duhuapas and Spilka?
guys like Tyson, Shavers, Frazier, Liston etc all would of knocked them dead inside 2-3 rounds.
Well said.
But thats not what u asked..... U asked who the most dangerous puncher not who the most complete fighter.
Ummm yes I'm fully aware of that.....
I guess you must have misunderstood that part. I asked who the most dangerous puncher was and I said Inoue. I said he was the most complete puncher out of the 4. The reason I said that is because of his technique, speed, timing and his offensive tools (left hook, jab, hook, combinations, body punching, countering), that's makes him the most dangerous puncher IMO.
i would agree with that. People who say Wilder is the hardest puncher ever is just ridiculous. Would George Foreman of gone 10 rounds with bums like Eric molina, Johan Duhuapas and Spilka?
guys like Tyson, Shavers, Frazier, Liston etc all would of knocked them dead inside 2-3 rounds.
Foreman went 10 twice with 6'0 197lb Peralta.
Foreman rarely fought anyone as big or as good as those guys you listed.
Foreman KO'd the likes of Frazier, Norton and Lyle in their primes.
Wilder went the distance with 'prime' Bermain stirverne who was previously stopped by a journeyman.
The only top guy Wilder has ever KO'd was Luis Ortiz, who was 10 years past his prime, and for the record Luis Ortiz best win in his entire career was Tony Thompson..
You can try and spin it anyway you like..
So he stopped a midget, a glass chin and a guy whose best win is a glass chin in Shavers.
Like i said again,George was most of the times the bigger guy,Wilder never had a weight advantage and yet he is dropping fools 30+ pounds heavier than him with 10oz gloves something George never did.
Wilder also went on to KO stiverne.
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