Should Ward's low blows, headbutts, elbows and excessive holding be illegal?

Yes technically they are against the rules, but in sport sometimes you have to push the boundaries 'Sometimes knowing some rough house tactics can save you from certain situations'. They are very much so a vital skill 'A lost art in the professional game, the american trainer who had a you tube channel would explain all of the techniques and then? Give examples of where fighters have used such tactics'. Yes, you get fouls in every sport and the referee needs to enforce the rules against them. Warnings, hard warnings, point deductions and DQs And Ward unlike the other boxing you list, used illegal methods as his tactics, not to get himself out of trouble. Yet rarely received warnings let alone point deductions for clear and obvious fouls.

Like it or not they are against the rules of boxing, and should be controlled and punished by the referee. Yes technically they are against the rules, but in sport sometimes you have to push the boundaries 'Sometimes knowing some rough house tactics can save you from certain situations'. They are very much so a vital survival skill' The american trainer who had a youtube channel would explain all of the techniques and then? Give examples of where fighters have used such tactics'.

Rules of Boxing The rules of boxing vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and on whether it is an amateur or professional bout. A violation of the following rules is considered a foul, and can result in a warning, point deduction, or disqualification by the referee: You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent. You cannot hit with your head, shoulder, forearm, or elbow. You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand. You cannot punch your opponent's back, or the back of his head or neck (rabbit punch), or on the kidneys (kidney punch). You cannot throw a punch while holding on to the ropes to gain leverage. You can't hold your opponent and hit him at the same time, or duck so low that your head is below your opponent's belt line. When the referee breaks you from a clinch, you have to take a full step back; you cannot immediately hit your opponent--that's called "hitting on the break" and is illegal. You cannot spit out your mouthpiece on purpose to get a rest. If you score a knockdown of your opponent, you must go to the farthest neutral corner while the referee makes the count. If you "floor" your opponent, you cannot hit him when he's on the canvas. A floored boxer has up to ten seconds to get back up on his feet before losing the bout by knockout. A boxer who is knocked down cannot be saved by the bell in any round, depending upon the local jurisdiction's rules. A boxer who is hit with an accidental low blow has up to five minutes to recover. If s/he cannot continue after five minutes, s/he is considered knocked out. If the foul results in an injury that causes the fight to end immediately, the boxer who committed the foul is disqualified. If the foul causes an injury but the bout continues, the referee orders the judges to deduct two points from the boxer who caused the injury. If an unintentional foul causes the bout to be stopped immediately, the bout is ruled a "no contest" if four rounds have not been fully completed. (If the bout was scheduled for four rounds, then three rounds must have been completed.) If four rounds have been completed, the judges' scorecards are tallied and the fighter who is ahead on points is awarded a technical decision. If the scores are even, it will be called a "technical draw." If a boxer is knocked out of the ring, he gets a count of 20 to get back in and on his feet. He cannot be assisted. In some jurisdictions the standing eight-count or the three knockdown rule also may be in effect. In other jurisdictions, only the referee can stop the bout. If you don't support the rules of boxing, you are not a boxing fan. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rules_of_Boxing

Marquess of Queensberry rules Rule 1—To be a fair stand-up boxing match in a 24-foot ring, or as near that size as practicable. Rule 2—No wrestling or hugging allowed. Rule 3—The rounds to be of three minutes’ duration, and one minute’s time between rounds. Why would a boxing fan campaign for hugging and wrestling in boxing? Why would a man want to see this for that matter?

Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield all knew when and where to use rough house tactics. Whether you like it or not, they are a vital skill. Like it or not they are against the rules of boxing, and should be controlled and punished by the referee.

Nope, they have been against the rules since the conception of boxing. If you like all that stuff go watch MMA. If the fighters like doing that, take it to MMA. Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield all knew when and where to use rough house tactics. Whether you like it or not, they are a vital skill.

Ward is retired

They are a vital skill, a lost art in the game.There used to be a you tube channel, where I think? A America old school trainer, would explain and demonstrate rough house tactics 'He would explain how Mike Tyson would sometimes turn a hook, into a elbow etc' Yes they may be against the rules, but sometimes during a fight you have to push the boundaries 'In order to survive'. Nope, they have been against the rules since the conception of boxing. If you like all that stuff go watch MMA. If the fighters like doing that, take it to MMA.

Ward was a VERY dirty boxer. But he was clever with it. Hi legacy will be that he was terrible to watch, hid in Oakland for 99% of his career and won most of his fights via low blows.

Pretty sure they are against the rules. They are a vital skill, a lost art in the game.There used to be a you tube channel, where I think? A America old school trainer, would explain and demonstrate rough house tactics 'He would explain how Mike Tyson would sometimes turn a hook, into a elbow etc' Yes they may be against the rules, but sometimes during a fight you have to push the boundaries 'In order to survive'.

Rough House tactics are apart of boxing. Pretty sure they are against the rules.

Just a simple question. They are all illegal. But that is why Ward is always the hometown fighter so the judges and the ref favor him and let him get away with it.

Rough House tactics are apart of boxing.

Just a simple question. Are we STILL doing this? Have u ever boxed? If u did, youd know the answer.

I don’t blame Ward so much as the referee. Ward is only taking what they are giving, it’s how all sports work. If the umpire is calling strikes 6 inches off the plate, the pitcher would be a fool not to throw there. maybe, but Ward's like a pitcher who intentionally throws at a batter's head, a defensive back who clotheslines a receiver, a bb player who shoves a player in the back on a fast break, a hockey player who... lol

I dont think he can control who gets cut with a headbutt i mean he can be cut just as easily. Sergey was hitting Ward with low blows, nobody said anything about it. People tend to focus on Ward and not what the other guy is doing. Like I didn't see any outrage over say ggg for example dropping Derey with a shot to the back of the head, but if that was Ward? The outrage would be insane. There was a punch thrown by Golovkin and Derev was ducking down at the same time. It hit him in the top of the head near the back. Ward on the other hand head butted Kessler repeatedly. Hit him with an elbow on the jaw. Those weren't accidental. He's not the only fighter that Ward's fouled often. The man has a reputation for bending the rules. He got that reputation because people pointed out his tactics.

I don’t blame Ward so much as the referee. Ward is only taking what they are giving, it’s how all sports work. If the umpire is calling strikes 6 inches off the plate, the pitcher would be a fool not to throw there.

We could have an automatic points system where judges are forced to point a specific way for specific performances. We never needed video to be invented to have eyes from the outside inform the ref he missed a foul. We don't have any of that because boxing is about fighting not a ballet performance and the quantification of anything is systemic bias. Boxing is vague on purpose, it's biases are personal on purpose, anyone who doesn't see the brilliance in letting fighter fight probably ought to just stick to ball sports. True that boxing is not ballet and the rules of the sport are vague. But when rules are open to interpretation doesn't the ref become to much of a factor in the outcome of a fight?

How come when heads are coming together it's the other fighter that gets cut not Ward or when there are intense inside battles it the other fighter that usually gets hit low. I dont think he can control who gets cut with a headbutt i mean he can be cut just as easily. Sergey was hitting Ward with low blows, nobody said anything about it. People tend to focus on Ward and not what the other guy is doing. Like I didn't see any outrage over say ggg for example dropping Derey with a shot to the back of the head, but if that was Ward? The outrage would be insane.

I think a lot of headbutts in boxing can be attributed to pure accident, without any real intent behind them. However watching Ward vs Kessler was a real eye opener, it had been a while since i'd seen a fighter so deliberately try and crack with the head. I thought this was particularly ironic from a guy fighting under the title of "Son Of God". However that's not to say he isn't a very skilled fighter who always found a way to win - but that also doesn't absolve him of blatantly using illegal tactics. Were they illegal? Yes, should he have had point deductions where applicable? Yes. Do lots of fouls go unpunished by refs? Yes and I don't think he was some kind of special case.