We have been spoiled with fighters going onto age 40 staying competitive

Sports science has massively improved, fighters now look after their bodies far better than fighters of yesteryear ever could have. I’m not at all surprised at athletes having prolonged careers at the top level, it’s happening across all sports. Look at Federer, CR7, Lebron etc

You clearly have an agenda. Smh I just know my sht and don’t pretend a fighter is perfect. https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647382

Floyd doesn’t do the basics better than any fighter, he punches with his chin in the air. Golovkin has better basics. Mayweather’s strength is definitely that he is a very intelligent fighter, and he never really lost his speed or lost much of anything until his last fight vs Berto. Even at an advanced age he was jacked and had/has big muscles hanging off his little frame, juice.d. Even Pacquiao has softened up and looks like an old man in the body. You clearly have an agenda. Smh

I'm only speaking on the bold here....though we weren't even speaking to me. Lol The thing about Manny and Floyd is they were levels above their competiton, even at 37 or older. Manny's movement, punches from odd angles, and the idea that he could still hurt or stop you, made him an anomaly. As for Floyd, he did the basics waaaay better than any fighter below or above him, with the added shoulder roll and timing, he's still above other fighters. Seeing Manny do what he did to Keith at the age of 41 says it all. Floyd doesn’t do the basics better than any fighter, he punches with his chin in the air. Golovkin has better basics. Mayweather’s strength is definitely that he is a very intelligent fighter, and he never really lost his speed or lost much of anything until his last fight vs Berto. Even at an advanced age he was jacked and had/has big muscles hanging off his little frame, juice.d. Even Pacquiao has softened up and looks like an old man in the body.

Floyd was juiced. Golovkin didnt take good enough care of himself through the years and Pacquiao is a true athlete, one in a million, with psychotic discipline/workaholic(never been out of the ring over a year by his own volition, and coming back from the ko’s just shows what god-tier mental fortitude he has). All hail Wapakman.

Floyd and Pac were not the same fighters at 37 they were when they were younger, not even close. What did either do to make you think they were? Which is easier to believe? That the same Maidana virtually shut out by Devon Alexander suddenly became awesome or that the usually awesome Floyd just wasn’t all that awesome anymore? I'm only speaking on the bold here....though we weren't even speaking to me. Lol The thing about Manny and Floyd is they were levels above their competiton, even at 37 or older. Manny's movement, punches from odd angles, and the idea that he could still hurt or stop you, made him an anomaly. As for Floyd, he did the basics waaaay better than any fighter below or above him, with the added shoulder roll and timing, he's still above other fighters. Seeing Manny do what he did to Keith at the age of 41 says it all.

ggg is a good fighter but that's it. im sorry if this offends you but that's the truth. he's really nothing special. just had good power to knock out b-c level fighters before. this is why his fans hyped him up to be someone that he's not. "i fight mexican style" then gets murk by canelo "mexican style". i aint never view ggg the same after that lol. I'm not offended at all, just simply asking you a question relevant to the premise of this thread. Manny and Floyd are special. Very few other fighters will ever compete at that level at that age. Who are the best old fighters today in your opinion?

Floyd and Pac were not the same fighters at 37 they were when they were younger, not even close. What did either do to make you think they were? Which is easier to believe? That the same Maidana virtually shut out by Devon Alexander suddenly became awesome or that the usually awesome Floyd just wasn’t all that awesome anymore?

style makes fight... if ggg were to fight canelo again it will end in a tko/ko in canelo's favor. True and I do think ko is in the realm of possibility if they fight again but not because of skill, simply because of age. And while it can happen that great fighters have trouble with lower level fighters do to style, it is rare and the good fighter usually still wins decently. And even then those lower level fighters are not consistent in performance. But none of those conditions apply to GGG. He's been consistent his entire career and gave Canelo, who's in his prime, hell twice. He's proven more than just a good fighter.

Nah, GGG was always a special fighter. You don't just decimate lower level fighters like that and then give a "prime" P4P fighter like Canelo the kind of difficulty he did in two fights when you're declining due to age if you're just a decent average guy. Look at Canelo vs Jacobs? Canelo basically played with him. Jacobs is an example of a fighter that's decent but has never been special. If it were that easy to do what GGG did, then every decent fighter would decimate lower level opponents easily like he did. But that rarely is the case, which is why there was so much hype around GGG in the first during his come up. GGG is 37 and clearly had broken confidence and still managed beat year old Derevychenko the way he did. Most fighters in that scenario would have been washed. Does anyone really think the 33 year old version Golovkin would have fought the same way tonight as against 33 year old Derevychenko? No way. style makes fight... if ggg were to fight canelo again it will end in a tko/ko in canelo's favor.

Nah, GGG was always a special fighter. You don't just decimate lower level fighters like that and then give a "prime" P4P fighter like Canelo the kind of difficulty he did in two fights when you're declining due to age if you're just a decent average guy. Look at Canelo vs Jacobs? Canelo basically played with him. Jacobs is an example of a fighter that's decent but has never been special. If it were that easy to do what GGG did, then every decent fighter would decimate lower level opponents easily like he did. But that rarely is the case, which is why there was so much hype around GGG in the first during his come up. GGG is 37 and clearly had broken confidence and still managed beat Derevychenko the way he did. Most fighters in that scenario would have been washed. Does anyone really think the 33 year old version Golovkin would have fought the same way tonight as against Derevychenko? No way. Which basically means that SD, who is 33 and probably on the tail end peak of his prime, with full confidence still couldn't beat a 37 y o GGG on the decline and with broken confidence. Imo that says more about GGG than it does SD.

How many fighters above the age of 35 would you rank higher than Golovkin p4p? ggg is a good fighter but that's it. im sorry if this offends you but that's the truth. he's really nothing special. just had good power to knock out b-c level fighters before. this is why his fans hyped him up to be someone that he's not. "i fight mexican style" then gets murk by canelo "mexican style". i aint never view ggg the same after that lol.

there's levels to this shiiet!!! fans are so quick to call a fighter the best p4p, etc. and then this is what happens. imo, ggg was just a good fighter, he was never anything special. How many fighters above the age of 35 would you rank higher than Golovkin p4p?

there's levels to this shiiet!!! fans are so quick to call a fighter the best p4p, etc. and then this is what happens. imo, ggg was just a good fighter, he was never anything special.