Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter Trending Over 300k Buys

That's excellent for Boxing!

why are so many posters upset about the success of a PPV and finding negative things to say? whats the real issue?

The usual suspects on this forum MAD :lol1: So much for being "Boxing Fans" Right :nonono: Yes it is very much believable if you live in America and you understand how BIG of a Network FOX is and how much Views a Dallas Cowboys Football Game on FOX get every Sunday. Cowboys vs Saints just had 24.7 MILLION VIEWS this past Sunday :lol1: FOX gets most of the credit based how they Promote their PPV's by Promoting it when other far more popular sports are on like NFL and NCAA Football which consistently Draw Big Ratings every Saturday and Sunday. They Ran Spence Jr vs Porter Promo Clips repeatedly and it paid off and the big key here is that it cost them absolutely NOTHING to promote their own events on their own network compared to Promoters typically having to PAY to run their Commercials leading up to a fight Even seen DAZN jump in on the Action paying for a Commercial Spot during a NFL Game which is Smart... Be a fan of BOXING and not just Groupies for Certain Boxers, Certain Promoters and Certain Networks! You will enjoy the sport better when you appreciate, watch and support them ALL This. These ******s blowing one company or another blow my mind. I swear its like half this forum. Who gives a **** enjoy good fights and stop wanting everything to fail. I didn't see a ton of buzz before the fight. But I did get like 12 people to come over and watch at my house. They all enjoyed it and were still talking about it the next few days.

Here are some articles of Spence stating that he preferred fighting Vargas than his next in line challenger Ugas at that time https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-i-rather-fight-jessie-vargas-next-ugas--129217 https://www.boxingscene.com/ugas-some-point-spence-face-me-get-stripped--129248 The point is not about Spence turning down an Ugas fight. It's about 'what if' he fought Ugas after Ocampo. If Spence was such a lone PPV worthy, would they have made it a PPV between both? Remember, Spence fought Mikey too after Ocampo. Spence building-up market was about the right person (credit to Mikey with Mexican fanbase) and the right time with careful management (credit to PBC). It's not about Spence being lone PPV worthy. Let's give credits to where they are due. Mikey played a major part of that build-up That's not "turning down" Ugas. That fight was never even brought up or even discussed. No, the problem is so many FOOLISHLY convinced themselves that Mikey was bringing in majority of the PPV buys and the crowd when that was never the case. Spence and Mikey were on equal footing in terms of name value. There was nothing to EVER suggest that Mikey was the bigger name or did better ratings...because that simply wasn't the case. Both were doing comparable numbers. Now Spence just headlined against a guy who is not Mexican nor is a big name and did either damn near close to 300k buys or surpassed that amount. He has clearly separated himself from the pack and is the next biggest draw/name in America behind Canelo/Pacquiao......And possibly Wilder. We shall see the type of numbers he does against Ortiz.

The usual suspects on this forum MAD :lol1: So much for being "Boxing Fans" Right :nonono: Yes it is very much believable if you live in America and you understand how BIG of a Network FOX is and how much Views a Dallas Cowboys Football Game on FOX get every Sunday. Cowboys vs Saints just had 24.7 MILLION VIEWS this past Sunday :lol1: FOX gets most of the credit based how they Promote their PPV's by Promoting it when other far more popular sports are on like NFL and NCAA Football which consistently Draw Big Ratings every Saturday and Sunday. They Ran Spence Jr vs Porter Promo Clips repeatedly and it paid off and the big key here is that it cost them absolutely NOTHING to promote their own events on their own network compared to Promoters typically having to PAY to run their Commercials leading up to a fight Even seen DAZN jump in on the Action paying for a Commercial Spot during a NFL Game which is Smart... Be a fan of BOXING and not just Groupies for Certain Boxers, Certain Promoters and Certain Networks! You will enjoy the sport better when you appreciate, watch and support them ALL Lol you asking too much from these groupie roaches.

I am seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance in this thread! The PBC is boxing in AMERICA! In the near future if things continue as is,The NEW PBC boxing fans will not know Crawford nor Canelo! Al Haymon has hit the reset button on boxing in America. America: Here are your top fighters and they are NOT anyone outside of the PBC! ... I liked this syllogistic line of argumentation very much... it shows critical thinking as well... :)

thats because canelo was in the market. now that hes gone pbc is trying to swoop in and get the suckers but they arent getting as many suckers unfortunately. at least they are being smart and not handing out huge guarantees except to wilder which is destroying all their profits. they probably have ot guarantee him 10-15 million for that bomb of an ortiz rematch. hearn is doing the same thing that haymon did to hbo. driving up the price and forcing him to pay big money. haymon prob wants to kill himself the dopey cu-nt got played. did he really think wilder was going to be a million dollar ppv attraction? based on...nothing. this is why you dont get emotionally attached like haymon did. wilders numbers were meh but he made a wild gamble that he would turn into a huge star and preemptively paid him that kind of money. now his entire business is huring and bleeding money. showtime is basically dead so there's one outlet down and dazn has even more leverage with more moeny to spend now that they didnt waste it on wilder. An American heavyweight champion, who is as charismatic and solid in an interview as Wilder is, whose entire aim is to knock everyone out, who stands as the unified/undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, is a license to print money. Fight that idea if you want. Showtime has Claressa Shields this weekend, another show set for the end of October, Jermall Charlo defending his WBC belt at Barclays, plus at least this brewing Davis vs Gamboa fight for this year (Spence-Danny being pencilled in for January, after Wilder-Ortiz 2 in November, also messed with Manny Pacquiao's schedule). And that's just the obvious stuff. Beyond that, DAZN has already made it known that there "shock and awe" strategy didn't work, and they've already set their plans to aggressively cut their budgets, because few fighters were taking the bait, and the fans weren't coming on board the way they'd hoped. Nice try though

I am seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance in this thread! The PBC is boxing in AMERICA! In the near future if things continue as is,The NEW PBC boxing fans will not know Crawford nor Canelo! Al Haymon has hit the reset button on boxing in America. America: Here are your top fighters and they are NOT anyone outside of the PBC! Uhhh...Americans still have access to platforms other than pbc to watch boxing.

Huh? Now we are talking about turning down Ugas? When did that happen? Here are some articles of Spence stating that he preferred fighting Vargas than his next in line challenger Ugas at that time https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-i-rather-fight-jessie-vargas-next-ugas--129217 https://www.boxingscene.com/ugas-some-point-spence-face-me-get-stripped--129248 The point is not about Spence turning down an Ugas fight. It's about 'what if' he fought Ugas after Ocampo. If Spence was such a lone PPV worthy, would they have made it a PPV between both? Remember, Spence fought Mikey too after Ocampo. Spence building-up market was about the right person (credit to Mikey with Mexican fanbase) and the right time with careful management (credit to PBC). It's not about Spence being lone PPV worthy. Let's give credits to where they are due. Mikey played a major part of that build-up

Yeah I agree with the build up and PBC did a good job in building up their favorite son’s career. But let’s not try to pretend that they didn’t use some of the Mexican following to build up Spence’s market value in the form of Mikey Garcia. Do you think they would have made it a PPV if Spence fought Ugas after Ocampo? Why do you think Spence turned down an Ugas fight and accepted the LW Mikey fight? Huh? Now we are talking about turning down Ugas? When did that happen? They made Spence vs Garcia a PPV, because well it made sense. Both fighters had solid names and it made perfect sense to put that on PPV. Both fighters were at the point of their careers where it was time to enter the PPV market. And here we are now with Spence solidifying himself as an PPV attraction and should be on PPV for majority of his remaining career.

Why wasn't he on PPV before Garcia? Which fight should have been on PPV? You build a fighter up to the point that he can be successful on PPV. So why wasn't Mikey on PPV before Spence? What are we even doing here? Yeah I agree with the build up and PBC did a good job in building up their favorite son’s career. But let’s not try to pretend that they didn’t use some of the Mexican following to build up Spence’s market value in the form of Mikey Garcia. Do you think they would have made it a PPV if Spence fought Ugas after Ocampo? Why do you think Spence turned down an Ugas fight and accepted the LW Mikey fight?

I don't care if it did 1 buy or 1 million buys, Spence and Crawford need to fight by the end of 2020. Enough with the excuses about who needs who and who's the A side. We don't need guys acting like Pac and Mayweather when nobody even know who the fk they are.

The usual suspects on this forum MAD :lol1: So much for being "Boxing Fans" Right :nonono: Yes it is very much believable if you live in America and you understand how BIG of a Network FOX is and how much Views a Dallas Cowboys Football Game on FOX get every Sunday. Cowboys vs Saints just had 24.7 MILLION VIEWS this past Sunday :lol1: FOX gets most of the credit based how they Promote their PPV's by Promoting it when other far more popular sports are on like NFL and NCAA Football which consistently Draw Big Ratings every Saturday and Sunday. They Ran Spence Jr vs Porter Promo Clips repeatedly and it paid off and the big key here is that it cost them absolutely NOTHING to promote their own events on their own network compared to Promoters typically having to PAY to run their Commercials leading up to a fight Even seen DAZN jump in on the Action paying for a Commercial Spot during a NFL Game which is Smart... Be a fan of BOXING and not just Groupies for Certain Boxers, Certain Promoters and Certain Networks! You will enjoy the sport better when you appreciate, watch and support them ALL

Honestly I think people are greatly discounting the awesome job FOX did at promoting this fight. It was everywhere on their NFL & NCAA football broadcasts, and not just commercials, but also with in-game plugs from the announcers during timeouts and such. Reminding such a huge audience that the fight was coming up was big. I admit that I forgot as not a huge fan of either guy.

I am seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance in this thread! The PBC is boxing in AMERICA! In the near future if things continue as is,The NEW PBC boxing fans will not know Crawford nor Canelo! Al Haymon has hit the reset button on boxing in America. America: Here are your top fighters and they are NOT anyone outside of the PBC!

What’s the point? Yeah Spence have become a bigger star now since the Mikey fight. There’s no denying in there. We will never know now cause they didn’t try having him on PPV before the Mikey fight. Why do you think they didn’t? And why was the Porter fight not initially booked as a PPV before they made certain adjustments? And why were the undercards mostly composed of at least a Mexican in there? I do give credit to PBC for carefully building up Spence career and they made him a big star. After all, he’s their favorite son Why wasn't he on PPV before Garcia? Which fight should have been on PPV? You build a fighter up to the point that he can be successful on PPV. So why wasn't Mikey on PPV before Spence? What are we even doing here?

:lol1: bull**** Any excuse not to give black fighters credit. You are clearly a racist refusing to acknowledge Crawford is a black fighter only because he works with Jewish promoter. You are the reason boxing isn't a top sport any more. Smh.

Not a fan of PPV model, as I don't see many viable PPV-caliber fights in near future, but it's good news for sport of boxing that they can still do these sort of numbers. Spence is an exciting fighter, and Porter always puts on entertaining fights due to his style.

Looks like PBC plantation just made some dollar, I wonder if slaves will see any of it?

:lol1: bull**** Any excuse not to give black fighters credit. I’ve nothing much to say you. Crawford is a black fighter btw.