If Pacquiao has been on steroids for such a long time....

Arnold was allegedly juiced to the gills forever & he seems cool. Steroid-related heart impairment is severe enough to potentially increase the risk of heart failure. The left ventricle, the heart muscle primarily responsible for pumping blood throughout the body, was significantly weaker among steroid users. Arnold gets heart surgery Panda: "he seems cool doe"

High quality steroids used twice per year with expert supervision would not destroy your body in the 10-12 years he's accused of using them. dickhead, if that steroid exist it will be richest countries' athletes that will first benefit from it. They are spending millions for researches since Day 1. :bottle: while Phillipines spending millions for basketball :D

funny how so many so called "experts" here can't answer this question countless pages of accusations yet one simple question, only 2 pages? where's that pos dunn and company?

High quality steroids used twice per year with expert supervision would not destroy your body in the 10-12 years he's accused of using them. you have proof of that? my experience with people and steroid use says otherwise Marquez could've taken it "twice per year with expert supervision" yet look what happened to his knees, and he didn't even take it for "10-12 years"

If Pacquiao has been on steroids for such a long time, why hasn't it destroyed his body yet? It's been a min since I've made a thread/posted but it still cracks me up how idiots still claim Pacquiao is on steroids. The newest idiot goes by the name Jeb Jeb. So many athletes who've taken steroids have had surgeries/retired earlier due to steroid use, yet Pacquiao is still doing his thing. If Pacquiao has been taking steroids, shouldn't it have ruined his body by now? The steroid accusation is made-up by a crackhead then followed-up with his son's fans that are all crackhead too. Pacquiao didn't really help himself with all the excuses he made of why he couldn't get tested when the Mayweather fight was being discussed back in 2010. NSAC has its own testing but floyd so scared he brought up his own testing company. :D its been almost 10 years, those accusations were proven wrong, but these crackheads still exist

Floyd is more suspicious with his IV. Pac s best of era, so no amount of PeD accusations will harm him

Pacquiao didn't really help himself with all the excuses he made of why he couldn't get tested when the Mayweather fight was being discussed back in 2010. Don’t put the blame on Manny. Random drug testing wasn’t common in 2010. Besides, that ducker wanted no part of Manny at that time so he kept making ridiculous demands.

LOL wut. What makes you think steriods messed with JMMs knees. LOL how so. What difference does competing make. If steroids is destroying mfers I cant imagine it cares if you get a check for athletics or not. I think you are thinking of meth or something lmfao. Steroids aint THAT bad for you. Not good for you obviously, but not THAT bad either to destroy careers. Or D- troll thread. what makes you think it didn't mess up his knees? so Marquez, who never had any knee issues before, suddenly needs knee surgery after what looks like he roided up, doesn't look suspicious to you? how so? so the woman beater *Floyd has a style that can last for decades and hasn't been in too many wars yet he's retired while pacquiao who has been in many wars and has a harder style, is still competing at a high level? if you think roids ain't bad for u then props to you. i've worked with patients who are young and needed bilateral knee replacements due to use of steroids. Just look up how steroids deteriorates the body man, u actin like steroids just somethin u pop in your mouth and it ain't nothin. If Pacquiao has been taking steroids, his body would've been messed up enough to the point he wouldn't b able to continue to compete. and "D- troll thread"? what's up with that? has anyone ever told you that shi* is gay as fu**? I mean real talk, u think u above folks that you can give grades out and shi*? that's about as gay as your "doe" shi* too homie i ain't never had no issue with you, but you lookin like u got to the point where u thinking u above people and u need to get off your high horse, this is a whack ass forum we're talking about here, not no in depth debate in person shi*. u b actin like u better than ni**as when in actuality folks probably lookin at u like a straight up punk.

Pacquiao didn't really help himself with all the excuses he made of why he couldn't get tested when the Mayweather fight was being discussed back in 2010. nope, def didn't help himself with the excuses, BUT, that still doesn't automatically give someone the right to say that's sufficient to be deemed guilty. his team did a poor job handling that situation, but when they finally agreed, there was always another goal post being moved, 21 days 14 days 7 days day of etc.

Exactly right. I ****ing love that even with vada testing the floyd stans still say hes on steroids yet their hero was the one who got caught hiding ped's The fact that pac is, and doesn't take consistent ped testing on purpose is a pretty clear sign. https://www.world boxingnews.net/2019/06/25/exclusive-manny-pacquiao-drug-testing/ Manny did 4th VADA testing according to VADA website: http://vada-testing.org/congratulations-to-manny-pacquiao-on-successfully-completing-vada-testing/ “It should also be noted that Senator Pacquiao is enrolled in the World Boxing Council / Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) 365 24/7 program,” he added. - Pac is enrolled in VADA Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency. Only a few can say they do, and that's including Pac. The whole article Despite fears to the contrary, Manny Pacquiao’s world title clash with Keith Thurman does have active drug testing, WBN has been informed. Reports earlier this week led to a fans backlash against the pair of fighters for not insisting on having procedures in place. The World Boxing Association, whose welterweight championship will be on the line, also came under fire in the gripes. Accusations aimed at both fighters followed. Pacquiao’s representative Sean Gibbons then moved to clear things up regarding the July 20 bout. “Nevada State Athletic Commission is using VADA style testing for Manny Pacquiao’s fight with Keith Thurman,” Gibbons exclusively told World Boxing News. “It should also be noted that Senator Pacquiao is enrolled in the World Boxing Council / Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) 365 24/7 program,” he added. even with this, those idiots still say "take the test"

Whos been destroyed by steroids like your suggesting. And is that always how it goes. Idk about all that. Arnold was allegedly juiced to the gills forever & he seems cool. Stallone too. Stallone is like the most athletic looking 92 year old in history I think & he likely has used more steroids than everyone from MLB in 98. I got no horse in the Manny used steroids debate, but I just kinda assume lotsa world class guys have done them. For how long who f#cking knows, but Ive read that once you use steroids for a certain length of time your body is changed & you dont necessarily need to take them forever. Thats one of the arguments made as to why guys busted for banned substances should be banned for life. Marquez didn't even take it too long and look what it did to his knees. The woman beater *Floyd, Mr Hit and don't get hit aka the defensive wizard etc (who technically should still be able to do it with that style), seems like the roids finally took its toll on his body, and countless other athletes who've taken roids and later needed surgeries/retirement. Arnold and Sly aren't professional athletes in which their steroids stopped them from continuing to compete, but for all we know they've probably had their share of surgeries due to the steroid use.

The man’s a clean athlete. Unfortunately, his good name & reputation has been ruined by that lowlife scumbag and his entire family. Pacquiao didn't really help himself with all the excuses he made of why he couldn't get tested when the Mayweather fight was being discussed back in 2010.

The man’s a clean athlete. Unfortunately, his good name & reputation has been ruined by that lowlife scumbag and his entire family.