None of them are proven. Combined between the three their best wins are over a shot Paulie, shot Zab, prime Matthyse, WW Broner, and each other. Not a single other meaningful win between ALL of their careers
None of them are world level. NONE.
You can add up a prime Khan in the mix of those names maybe. Spence and Crawford can only hope to have those kind of names in their resume. If we can’t call them world level, maybe we should just call them local level fighters fighting at world championships with 2 world titles on the line
I mean each weight class should have ONE champion NOT FOUR. So dont curse me for viewing boxing in that fashion.
Which part of my posts did I curse you?
Crawford and Spence have beaten everyone in front of them in decisive and dominant fashion. Although both lack a signature win they pass the "eye test". Crawford has also done it over 3 divisions and was lineal at JWW.
Neither Crawford nor Spence were almost KTFO by a Josesito Lopez club fighter or career journeyman Luis Collazo. They didnt get gift decisions against Ugas, shot Lamont Peterson, or Herrera. They didnt get dominated by Kell Brook
See the difference?
So the “eye test” means proven by your standards? And dominance? How do you rate Canelo’s non dominant victories by your standards? Maybe he’s not world level either?
Also, I’d like to mention Gamboa(small) and Brook(drained and past it) have given Crawford and Spence competitive fits neither of which were ever world level fighters by your standards.
Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying.
Sometimes divisions are simply bad and WW is pretty thin and has been for years.
Ennis is about to enter and add some excitement, but none of the PBC girls will fight him. Manny is on his way out as is Spence whose struggling to belt holders. And Crawford is already 32 years old...real sad career in terms of boxing greatness, but the goal is to earn money and hes done that well.
Porter, Garcia, and Thurman are very, very weak beltholders. During the golden WW (2005-2010) era they wouldve never held a belt. Never. That was Mosley, Cotto, Floyd, Manny, Bradley, Margs, etc. Not a single one of Danny, Keith, or Shawn beat any of them.
Hell Shawn was only a SPARRING PARTNER during that time. And theres a reason for that.
You’re trying to make it sound as if prospects like Ennis is a world class fighter yet fighters who are already proven at world championship stages like Thurman, Garcia, and Porter are not world class.
Point above aside, I see that you standardization for being a world class fighter is very high. Seems like literally only few in all weight classes will pass by your standards.
By your standard, how can we consider Spence and Crawford world class when neither has beaten any any world class fighters yet? By your standard, Kell is not world class, neither is Khan nor Gamboa nor Postol. Heck, not even Mikey will pass by your standard who has never beaten any ‘world class’ fighter by your standards
tell TBE to stop using manny's name. this is getting embarrassing. stop trying to justify it by making up imaginary stories of why floyd is doing this.
Floyd promoted Manny's last fight. He is partnering with Al to run this portion of Manny's career. He can use his name whenever he wants. That's how pimpin works-hoes go earn for their daddy. Way I see it, Manny is lucky he isn't being gorilla'd.
:feedback:iIt's over. Floyd never disclosed anything about an exhibition to Pac. Floyd using Pac's name again.
Pac has come out and said no to exhibition.
‘Exhibition? Make it a real fight,’ Manny Pacquiao tells Floyd Mayweather
https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3027700/exhibition-make-it-real-fight-manny-pacquiao-tells-floyd-mayweather
still at it...
still.
lets post up creduntials.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=785481&page=43
It's over. Floyd never disclosed anything about an exhibition to Pac. Floyd using Pac's name again.
Pac has come out and said no to exhibition.
‘Exhibition? Make it a real fight,’ Manny Pacquiao tells Floyd Mayweather
https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3027700/exhibition-make-it-real-fight-manny-pacquiao-tells-floyd-mayweather
not sure if you see how this all works...
Mayweather will make the deal...
then he will call Haymon, to work through the finer points and sign everything off
Haymon will then contact everyone concerned, and tell them what they need to do... most likely by e-mail
my sources tell me that the deal is nearly done, and will be signed off in a few days
It's over. Floyd never disclosed anything about an exhibition to Pac. Floyd using Pac's name again.
Pac has come out and said no to exhibition.
‘Exhibition? Make it a real fight,’ Manny Pacquiao tells Floyd Mayweather
https://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/article/3027700/exhibition-make-it-real-fight-manny-pacquiao-tells-floyd-mayweather
can care less what he does lol. i dont have time or energyto invest emotions on someone i dont even know. you pathetic cvnt lol
Anothet f10m00 who denies the fact that he’s a f10m00. What a pathetic cvnt you really are.
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Quack...Quack...Quack... DUCK, RUN, CRY, B17ch
say that to my face and not online.
PM me if you want to meet up to bang it out. I would bang you so hard into next century. You have no idea how hard I would bang your ass.
Why would I not say it to your face, you f4990t? Now, I dare you to call me out in person.
PM me if you want to get beat up to a pulp. I would f**k up you so bad your own mother won’t even recognize you anymore. “Bang my ass”??? No wonder your username is el***.
say that to my face and not online.
PM me if you want to meet up to bang it out. I would bang you so hard into next century. You have no idea how hard I would bang your ass.
El*** you are a funny mofo.
Keith Thurman and Lucas Matthyse are world class fighters? Never - in either of their primes - were they world class.
Needing to split decision MMAPorter and or Danny Gift does not make one world class. Not to mention Lopez and Collazo who are literal journeyman almost KOing the "prime" Keith. Good, solid contender. Never world class
Are you saying that someone who fought for a world championship title is not a world class fighter let alone winning and defending it?
just my 2c...
why would Mayweather fight Pacquiao in a sanctioned match ?
these are his choices...
1) fight Pacquiao... risk NOTHING........ and make $200m
2) fight Pacquiao... risk EVERYTHING... and make $200m
why on earth would Mayweather EVER pick option 2... ? :thinking:
if there was justification for a third fight... it would be another exhibition
why do you guys think that he will un-retire after the exhibition?
also...
some have insinuated that Mayweather will deliberately under-perform in the exhibition... to attract attention for the REAL rematch... but would his ego really allow that to happen?... why not just take the money from the exhibition?
last point...
will Pacquiao REALLY beat Mayweather in a exhibition... ?
a shortened fight... that will play away from Pacquiao's few advantages
REALLY... ? ... how... ? :D
if Mayweather takes that fight... then he KNOWS that he is still sharp enough to deal with Pac
what will change... ?
surely you guys did not believe the injury excuse... ?
surely not
because... nothing else has/will change
Smart infomercial for the real thing later.
That said, Id rather see Pac or
Floyd fight Spence or Crawford. I already saw the Pac/Floyd fight and it sucked. Dont care to see that again. Save my money for a lap dance.
That’s what would happen to you if you made an attempt to make a move on that poosay who surrounds himself with big goons. You’re a big fat loser who can’t even get the simplest thing done. Your username fits who you are perfectly.
say that to my face and not online.
PM me if you want to meet up to bang it out. I would bang you so hard into next century. You have no idea how hard I would bang your ass.
What's a world class win of Keith Thurman?
Robert Ghost Guererro?
Josesito Lopez?
Jam Zaveck?
Luis Collazo?
Literally all journeymen although Ghost was a contender at one point in his career
Or do you mean split decision wins over Danny 5 loss Garcia? Or split decisioning Shawn MMAPorter??
THAT makes you world class?
Man your standards are whack. Probably dating a trans"woman" ffs
Pathetic or should I say PatheDICK
You're ****ing ******ed.
He was on some people's pound for pound lists and included in the top 3 at WW with Spence and Crawford.
You're going to tell me Keith Thurman isn't a world class fighter?
Log the **** off
What's a world class win of Keith Thurman?
Robert Ghost Guererro?
Josesito Lopez?
Jam Zaveck?
Luis Collazo?
Literally all journeymen although Ghost was a contender at one point in his career
Or do you mean split decision wins over Danny 5 loss Garcia? Or split decisioning Shawn MMAPorter??
THAT makes you world class?
Man your standards are whack. Probably dating a trans"woman" ffs
Pathetic or should I say PatheDICK
in that case, spence and crawford are bums then.
so they stage an exhibition-Manny does really well, which makes fans call for the rematch. Then Floyd suddenly gets in shape and wins the rematch by a wide margin.
Then everyone is happy. The Manny clowns crying for a rematch and the Floyd haters claiming the fight was close get some satisfaction once Manny does well in the exhibition and he gets a real rematch.
Then when he loses again hopefully they will all dive back into their cesspools and never bring up Floyd/Manny again once Floyd dominates the rematch.
tell TBE to stop using manny's name. this is getting embarrassing. stop trying to justify it by making up imaginary stories of why floyd is doing this.
so they stage an exhibition-Manny does really well, which makes fans call for the rematch. Then Floyd suddenly gets in shape and wins the rematch by a wide margin.
Then everyone is happy. The Manny clowns crying for a rematch and the Floyd haters claiming the fight was close get some satisfaction once Manny does well in the exhibition and he gets a real rematch.
Then when he loses again hopefully they will all dive back into their cesspools and never bring up Floyd/Manny again once Floyd dominates the rematch.
Love em’ or hate em’ as you want I don’t give a f**k.
Using the same logic, f10m00s like you & your kind are idiots for loving that poosay. You don’t know him personally, do you?
can care less what he does lol. i dont have time or energyto invest emotions on someone i dont even know. you pathetic cvnt lol