Lomachenko's Opponents Combined Record is 431-39

The majority of this site thinks Canelo beat GGG. That should ****ing tell you something. Since when? The majority think gg won the 1st and yes many think canelo won the 2nd fight. That has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Most reasonable fans agree you can make a case for Crawford, Loma, canelo or Inoue as #1 p4p. Loma fans with an agenda or the ones banned previously for racism like to pretend he is Prime Roy or Prime Floyd where he is the consensus #1 without question.

You guys have mental issues. You're biased, stupid, dumb, you lack boxing knowledge... you obviously lack any sort of boxing experience whatsoever. Nobody argues that Lomachenko isn't Pound for Pound #1 unless you have an agenda. Most of you mother ****ers don't even understand what Pound for Pound means. Lomachenko is the best fighter on the planet... Meaning if he fights the other guys who are ranked P4P... he BEATS them... THAT'S why ESPN and any other reliable rating source has him at #1.

There is a difference between majority and consensus. Floyd and Roy were consensus. For a very long time until they retired or lost. Loma isn’t #1 on this site right now and hasn’t been for some time. The majority of this site thinks Canelo beat GGG. That should ****ing tell you something.

They were two divisions apart. If you and the rest of the Lomafako nut hugging crowd have no issue with this disparity then you should immediately petition your hero to go see Errol Spence @ '47. Sound reasonable? Yes, everyone using logic to discredit you instead of your own blind hatred is on the nut hugging crowd. Was seven pounds in the ring with a hydration clause. That would be the equivalent of Loma fighting Spence at 147 with Spence weighing 150 in the ring. Wouldn't happen. BTW - My application for a boxing license is in the mail - so your license is safe from personal hygienic use. For now. Lol.. That doesn't even make sense.

The majority of all boxing people, writers, etc have Loma as #1. There is a difference between majority and consensus. Floyd and Roy were consensus. For a very long time until they retired or lost. Loma isn’t #1 on this site right now and hasn’t been for some time.

Someone tell dickless wanna be to never reply to any of my message again. I thought I helped him understand this.

I am stating that a lot of the Loma fans that unfairly elevate him are the same posters that have either been banned for racism, like Madison, or have a very bad reputation when it comes to race. This isn’t a coincidence. I am also stating that whenever someone doesn’t rank Loma as #1 p4p, those posters, and poster such as yourself, claim the reason people don’t is because of Loma’s race. This is because they can’t refute the argument using his resume. No one disputes Loma is a top p4p boxer. You can make a case for him, Crawford, canelo or Inoue as #1. The majority of all boxing people, writers, etc have Loma as #1.

rigo used to be a top ten p4p. can you honestly say he was p4p, during that performance? anyhow, lomachenko beat a guy 2 wgt classes below. wasn't such an amazing accomplishment, as many have pointed out, including lomachenko himself. if we put it into perspective. loma then had a competitive fight vs luke cambpell. who is solid but far from elite. then again campbell is naturally a bit heavier. Just about every major boxing network and periodical had him ranked in their top ten P4P. Rigo was confident he would win, many of his fans were talking shyt here how he was going to school Loma. Like I've said all along, the win over Rigo was a good win, not a great win. But I see a lot of double standards here and backtracking from certain posters. Which of course is nothing new.

Are you calling them racist or are they actually racist? There's a big difference between accusing someone of being racist simply because you MIGHT think they are, or actually having evidence that they ARE. You for example, ARE racist. Find posts where people are saying racist things and I don't see how they're not banned. I am stating that a lot of the Loma fans that unfairly elevate him are the same posters that have either been banned for racism, like Madison, or have a very bad reputation when it comes to race. This isn’t a coincidence. I am also stating that whenever someone doesn’t rank Loma as #1 p4p, those posters, and poster such as yourself, claim the reason people don’t is because of Loma’s race. This is because they can’t refute the argument using his resume. No one disputes Loma is a top p4p boxer. You can make a case for him, Crawford, canelo or Inoue as #1.

not saying he's not great, just saying his best win is still russell.

Rigo was a shell of himself? He was ranked in everyone’s top ten P4P list going into that fight. BWAA, ESPN, etc. He just got outclassed by a better fighter. rigo used to be a top ten p4p. can you honestly say he was p4p, during that performance? anyhow, lomachenko beat a guy 2 wgt classes below. wasn't such an amazing accomplishment, as many have pointed out, including lomachenko himself. if we put it into perspective. loma then had a competitive fight vs luke cambpell. who is solid but far from elite. then again campbell is naturally a bit heavier.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/645309 This is Davis 2nd fight, a debutante, world of difference between salido and a debutante, let’s not forget Davis had 200+ amateur fights, so explain why he didn’t pick a quality opponent for his 2nd fight Because he was no where near ready to take on any pro challenges. He's still not ready to take on the best in his division.

Rigondeaux had to move up two weight classes. He's currently fighting at 118 lbs while Lomachenko regularly weighs close to 140 lbs on fight night. I picked Rigondeaux to win.... I think the majority did.

You didn’t answer the question I asked. Name the posters. This thread is wondering if he can be a top 10 ATG. If he isn’t white, Madison doesn’t ask this question. The people that suggest he are can’t be using his resume because 13 wins and 1 foty award is not an ATG career under any circumstances. You know this. No one is questioning his skill. You are wrong about racists. Note that many of the people that push Loma ATG status have also been banned for racism by the mods. That isn’t a coincidence. They use Loma as a symbol and elevate him unfairly over men who have accomplished more. Since when is an amateur career used to measure whether someone is an ATG pro? Never. Loma decide to stay amateur until he was 25. His choice. Meanwhile there are men that have won multiple world titles in different weight classes before that age as pros, something he didn’t do. Let’s stop the BS. As I pointed out in the thread discussing Steve Kim voting Inoue #1 p4p, the reactions and responses highlight exactly what I am talking about. A lot of people accused him of doing that only because of race. That is the same criticism used if someone votes Crawford or canelo in that spot. I don’t see how anyone can make a case for Loma being an ATG with his resume as of now, which is the question of the thread. Are you calling them racist or are they actually racist? There's a big difference between accusing someone of being racist simply because you MIGHT think they are, or actually having evidence that they ARE. You for example, ARE racist. Find posts where people are saying racist things and I don't see how they're not banned.

No one is saying top TEN ATG you keep adding that part. Show me people saying " I think Loma is top ten ATG because he is white" Your making up false arguments. Theres a whole bunch of people experts, white people, black people saying is the best active fighter P4P and thats because of his skill, records and ambition. I think very few people rate fighters soley on race. The racists only really discredit people they don't big people up they're just hateful. It's also perfectly plausible to argue someone as visibly skilled as Loma with such an extensive amateur record (avenged all 3 of his losses in near 400 fights) as a P4P ATG. Never really been exposed even the Salido loss he made a good showing, finishing extremely strong. Maybe he resume isn't ATG but his skill set and ability would appear to be so far so there's that argument. Also it's pretty hard to rank ten active fighter above Loma in P4P without bias. So it's a bit of a give away. You didn’t answer the question I asked. Name the posters. This thread is wondering if he can be a top 10 ATG. If he isn’t white, Madison doesn’t ask this question. The people that suggest he are can’t be using his resume because 13 wins and 1 foty award is not an ATG career under any circumstances. You know this. No one is questioning his skill. You are wrong about racists. Note that many of the people that push Loma ATG status have also been banned for racism by the mods. That isn’t a coincidence. They use Loma as a symbol and elevate him unfairly over men who have accomplished more. Since when is an amateur career used to measure whether someone is an ATG pro? Never. Loma decide to stay amateur until he was 25. His choice. Meanwhile there are men that have won multiple world titles in different weight classes before that age as pros, something he didn’t do. Let’s stop the BS. As I pointed out in the thread discussing Steve Kim voting Inoue #1 p4p, the reactions and responses highlight exactly what I am talking about. A lot of people accused him of doing that only because of race. That is the same criticism used if someone votes Crawford or canelo in that spot. I don’t see how anyone can make a case for Loma being an ATG with his resume as of now, which is the question of the thread.

Rigondeaux walked in the ring @ 130lbs or Super Featherweight. Lomafako walked into the ring @ 137.4lbs or Super Lightweight - two divisions North of Super Feather. So, do you think Lomafako should go up to '47 and see Errol Spence? So.....they were 7 pounds apart then?

Rigondeaux had to move up two weight classes. He's currently fighting at 118 lbs while Lomachenko regularly weighs close to 140 lbs on fight night. Rigo has moved down to 118 since then though. He was fighting at 122 at the time, and the fight had a hydration clause. It wasn't this massive disparity in weight.

Anyone who criticizes Lomachenko based on the color of his skin is beyond stupid. Criticism should be based on his resume and his actions... That's completely fair.

Who specifically hates Loma because he is white? Name them and show why you honestly think so. All I see is anyone that doesn’t rank him top p4p being labeled as a hater of white fighters or having a racial bias. His skill isn’t questioned. It’s just not plausible that a fighter with 14 wins and 1 foty award is a top 10 ATG. No one is saying top TEN ATG you keep adding that part. Show me people saying " I think Loma is top ten ATG because he is white" Your making up false arguments. Theres a whole bunch of people experts, white people, black people saying is the best active fighter P4P and thats because of his skill, records and ambition. I think very few people rate fighters soley on race. The racists only really discredit people they don't big people up they're just hateful. It's also perfectly plausible to argue someone as visibly skilled as Loma with such an extensive amateur record (avenged all 3 of his losses in near 400 fights) as a P4P ATG. Never really been exposed even the Salido loss he made a good showing, finishing extremely strong. Maybe he resume isn't ATG but his skill set and ability would appear to be so far so there's that argument. Also it's pretty hard to rank ten active fighter above Loma in P4P without bias. So it's a bit of a give away.

I'm not the one who discredits Jack Johnson for being bigger than his opponents...but then doesn't discredit Lomachenko for being bigger than his opponent Rigondeaux. That's all I'm saying. I said Johnson's best wins were against much smaller or washed up opponents (Burns, Ketchel, Langford, Jeffries, Fitzsimmons), and that is the truth. McVea, Jeannette, Langford were not even close to their respective primes yet. Still green. Nice dodge on the Mayweather example I presented. Loma has better wins than Rigo and they were bigger than him. Campbell, Linares, Pedraza...all bigger than him. His resume isn't built solely upon smaller or washed up fighters. He'll fight Lopez next, a guy who is younger, stronger, and struggling to make 135 and should be at 140. In fact will be at 140 after this fight.