in our modern recent times, these were the last 3 fighters to become undisputed at lightweight.
February 12, 1971 - June 25, 1971 ;Ken Buchanan
January 21, 1978 - January 1979; Roberto Duran
August 11, 1990 - January 18, 1992; Pernell Whitaker
It will go down in history, not a bad place to put your name next to,
That's why i was so opposed to the Mikey Garcia Errol Spence fight and disappointed in him.
But props to Lomachenko if he can do it, especially being way small for the division :boxing:
So how can you explain that stupid Crawford argument you just gave me??? Makes 0 sense Floyds poops out better wins then Crawford
For one thing, Crawford has 35 fights. Let’s see what his resume looks like when and if he reaches 50 fights. It’s not his fault that fighters like Danny and Mikey Garcia, Thurman, Porter or Spence won’t fight him. I’m not buying any of this nonsense about promoters either. These fights can be made.
Crawford is a gifted fighter. I give credit to Floyd for his defensive skills and athleticism. But he was a boring fighter, and he never fully challenged himself. I don’t dislike him for his race, his arrogance or his success. I dislike him because he never fought to his fullest potential against the best at their best. He accused other fighters of being cheaters, overrated, or unworthy of their praise or success.
How did you predict Broner would be fight of the decade? Based on which of his wins?
You need to get off the race card Larry. Unlike some of the other moron son this forum, I don’t cheer for promoters. I’m not an Arum fan, or a GBP fan, or a Duva fan or fan of any other promoter. I am a fan of boxers.
To further prove how ridiculous you are, I do like Spence, and I enjoy watching Broner too. I like Thurman, Russell Jr., Santa Cruz and other PBC fighters as well.
When I feel a fighter is overrated I call it regardless of their race or their promoters race. Now why don’t you go call out some of the real racialists on this forum like Big Dunn, McDonalds, dosumpthin, King Hippo and others? Get off my dick Larry.
So how can you explain that stupid Crawford argument you just gave me??? Makes 0 sense Floyds poops out better wins then Crawford
Stop Floyds worse win if far better then Crawfords best win..please stop its ridiculous
from 2009-2015 Floyd fought
Jmm
Mosley
Ortiz
Cotto
Guerrero
Canelo
Maidana-2 times
Manny
Berto
STOP!!!!
ONLY REASON YOU RIDE WITH CRAWFORD IS BECAUSE HE IS IS WITH A WHITE PROMOTER ARUM..IF HE RAN TO PBC YOU WOULD SLAM HIM!!!!!! IM SORRY IMMA SPEAK THE DAMN TRUTH!!!NAME ONE DAMN FIGHTER CRAWFORD HAS FOUGHT BETTER THEN EVEN OLD ASS FLOYD!!!
You need to get off the race card Larry. Unlike some of the other moron son this forum, I don’t cheer for promoters. I’m not an Arum fan, or a GBP fan, or a Duva fan or fan of any other promoter. I am a fan of boxers.
To further prove how ridiculous you are, I do like Spence, and I enjoy watching Broner too. I like Thurman, Russell Jr., Santa Cruz and other PBC fighters as well.
When I feel a fighter is overrated I call it regardless of their race or their promoters race. Now why don’t you go call out some of the real racialists on this forum like Big Dunn, McDonalds, dosumpthin, King Hippo and others? Get off my dick Larry.
It’s simple. A long time ago I saw what Floyd was doing. How he was carefully selecting opponents at just the right time in their careers where they were not at their best or they were hyped for the sake of building up the fight. Floyd never challenged himself against the best at their best. I cannot respect him the way I do real fighters who took risks and sought out the toughest challengers. Leonard, Hearns, Spinks, Duran, Whitaker, all possessed great skill, heart and the desire to face the best.
Crawford is trying to fight the best but he is being avoided. He has the skill, ability, and desire. If he can get the big fights he wants I think he will win and he will go down as an ATG and retire undefeated.
Stop Floyds worse win if far better then Crawfords best win..please stop its ridiculous
from 2009-2015 Floyd fought
Jmm
Mosley
Ortiz
Cotto
Guerrero
Canelo
Maidana-2 times
Manny
Berto
STOP!!!!
ONLY REASON YOU RIDE WITH CRAWFORD IS BECAUSE HE IS IS WITH A WHITE PROMOTER ARUM..IF HE RAN TO PBC YOU WOULD SLAM HIM!!!!!! IM SORRY IMMA SPEAK THE DAMN TRUTH!!!NAME ONE DAMN FIGHTER CRAWFORD HAS FOUGHT BETTER THEN EVEN OLD ASS FLOYD!!!
I really dont get why you slam Floyd but try to support Crawford..makes 0 sense
It’s simple. A long time ago I saw what Floyd was doing. How he was carefully selecting opponents at just the right time in their careers where they were not at their best or they were hyped for the sake of building up the fight. Floyd never challenged himself against the best at their best. I cannot respect him the way I do real fighters who took risks and sought out the toughest challengers. Leonard, Hearns, Spinks, Duran, Whitaker, all possessed great skill, heart and the desire to face the best.
Crawford is trying to fight the best but he is being avoided. He has the skill, ability, and desire. If he can get the big fights he wants I think he will win and he will go down as an ATG and retire undefeated.
Don't worry, he'll still get the Top Rank hater treatment the same way Crawford did when he was undisputed at 140. The PBC mouth-breathers will criticize everyone he beat to get the title. Claim he fought no one. Granted, Crawford didn't beat a murderers row of opponents to get there, but he still hung around long enough to clean out the division.
I really dont get why you slam Floyd but try to support Crawford..makes 0 sense
Wow, I didn't realize Whitaker had done it. Yes, Loma joins a very short list. He can definitely do it. It would be another big accolade for him. The list of accomplishments just keeps growing...
I think the only thing really holding him back is not the competition but the matchmaking. It LOOKS like it's going to happen. But, until the fights actually happen I'm skeptical. Funny stuff happens in this sport.
So is every white nationalist and racist on nsb going to lie about the credit non white posters give Usyk and Loma.
Why is this tolerated? Why are these posters allowed to push a narrative that every poster and moderator reading this thread knows isn’t factual?
Can one of the moderators please explain to these posters that criticism of white fighters is allowed on the forum and when it’s done it isn’t an affront to the sport.
Unless there is a new rule that I am not aware of. If so, how can we change that rule.
If Crawford was a PBC fighter, we would never hear the end of his undisputed accomplishment at 140. They would be calling him the GOAT, second only to Floyd.
Yeah, it's funny Crawford is sort of the "enemy" or whatever but imagine if he was a PBC guy and Spence was with Top Rank talking about "other side of the street" imagine the pedestal Crawford would be on and Spence would be ridiculed more than Lomachenko is.
Imagine if Charlo, or Davis were white guys from EE on Top Rank's banner fighting so infrequently against such trash opposition? Mind blown.
I think the LDBC stayed quiet about Crawford’s 140 unification. I’ve seen it used as a reference as to why he’s clearly p4p because “nobody is undisputed”. Let’s see if those rules still apply. They barely acknowledged Usyk against a stronger pool of opponents (than what either Loma or Crawford fought in their undisputed divisions). Lomachenko’s opponents at 135 (especially if its Lopez because Lopez is held as somewhat of a deity) were stronger than Crawford’s at 140.
They are all great achievements but reasons beyond boxing prevents people acknowledging it. Sometimes due to race, sometimes due to a promoter, sometimes both. It’s not boxing related though.
If Crawford was a PBC fighter, we would never hear the end of his undisputed accomplishment at 140. They would be calling him the GOAT, second only to Floyd.
Don't worry, he'll still get the Top Rank hater treatment the same way Crawford did when he was undisputed at 140. The PBC mouth-breathers will criticize everyone he beat to get the title. Claim he fought no one. Granted, Crawford didn't beat a murderers row of opponents to get there, but he still hung around long enough to clean out the division.
I think the LDBC stayed quiet about Crawford’s 140 unification. I’ve seen it used as a reference as to why he’s clearly p4p because “nobody is undisputed”. Let’s see if those rules still apply. They barely acknowledged Usyk against a stronger pool of opponents (than what either Loma or Crawford fought in their undisputed divisions). Lomachenko’s opponents at 135 (especially if its Lopez because Lopez is held as somewhat of a deity) were stronger than Crawford’s at 140.
They are all great achievements but reasons beyond boxing prevents people acknowledging it. Sometimes due to race, sometimes due to a promoter, sometimes both. It’s not boxing related though.
Don't worry, he'll still get the Top Rank hater treatment the same way Crawford did when he was undisputed at 140. The PBC mouth-breathers will criticize everyone he beat to get the title. Claim he fought no one. Granted, Crawford didn't beat a murderers row of opponents to get there, but he still hung around long enough to clean out the division.
Tall trees catch allot of wind, they will never give him credit so i couldn't care less about their opinions
Don't worry, he'll still get the Top Rank hater treatment the same way Crawford did when he was undisputed at 140. The PBC mouth-breathers will criticize everyone he beat to get the title. Claim he fought no one. Granted, Crawford didn't beat a murderers row of opponents to get there, but he still hung around long enough to clean out the division.