Does Kovalev have ATG resume?

Atg? His resume is not even particularly good.

Ward was ahead on two of the three scorecards. You can't just make up your own scorecard as if it's official. This is a lie I see repeated by people that don't watch fights and only look up the result. Andrade clearly beat Vanes. It wasn't even close.The one judge that scored against him was heavily criticized and the commentary stated he would probably never get hired for a championship fight again. Well well well...;) lol just messing with my friend...but maybe a little humble pie for ya :)

Looks like you're a lot more hurt than I am since you responded to a sentence with paragraphs. You once created a thread asking why Golovkin gets hate. But I'm the one that's hurt? LOL Hearns and Kovalev are not similar at all and the fact that your're comparing their careers is beyond stupid. By the way, Hearns also beat Wilfred Benitez. So obviously you don't know as much about Hearns as you claim. Also, Benitez and Duran were not 50 years old when Hearns did it. Hearns win over Virgil Hill at light Heavyweight alone is better than any win on Kovalev's resume Pretty sure I figured it out with you btw...looks like you responded to me in another thread like months ago when I mentioned how some greats like Hagler and Hearns have 'bad' losses. When you challenged that I wrote another response that just explained what Hagler for one did well and maybe didn't do so well...my guess is you took that personal because as I judged, you try and hype your fighters over all others, and tbh man I think that is some ho sh.it and not something I do or take seriously in another man. But no hard feelings and I wish you well, sincerely!

Looks like you're a lot more hurt than I am since you responded to a sentence with paragraphs. You once created a thread asking why Golovkin gets hate. But I'm the one that's hurt? LOL Hearns and Kovalev are not similar at all and the fact that your're comparing their careers is beyond stupid. By the way, Hearns also beat Wilfred Benitez. So obviously you don't know as much about Hearns as you claim. Also, Benitez and Duran were not 50 years old when Hearns did it. Hearns win over Virgil Hill at light Heavyweight alone is better than any win on Kovalev's resume ? You responded to me so I responded to you...I'm a man and you made a comment towards me, so I was giving you the courtesy of a response. I don't recall the thread you're referring to specifically...but yeah a lot of the hate GGG gets seems not based in reality and based on tribal factors imo...I have posted a few threads and comments before to try and hold a mirror up to people's faces in a way, perhaps to expose some biases to them that they previously didn't realize. We can all have our blind spots so as someone who has no real skin in the game, I try and help some out in a way with some posts...I think most people who 'hate' on here do so because it is a vicious cycle of the chicken or the egg..and we can all get caught up in it...so a lot of times people will view a good fighter from another tribe as the enemy and try and slight everything they do while over-hyping everything with their fighter...kind of like what you are doing here with Kov, tbh. Honestly my friend from your responses I just don't think you are a very reasonable guy...you seem intent on maintaining certain narratives about 'your' fighters regardless of what the facts show....someone like Kov will always be docked points by you..while someone like Hearns will always be given bonus points...no offense but that is fan-boy stuff as far really being a real boxing anaylst. To say that Hearns and Kovalev are not similar talents, with similar flaws, I mean I think you are the one being unreasonable...in insisting that a MD win over Benitez, who was 1-2 in his next 3 with 2 bad losses...and a win over Virgil Hill (who) are these legendary wins that would vault Hearns over someone like Kovalev. That would be like me hyping the Hopkins wins, or Pascal wins, or Chilemba win...or obviously mentioning that Kov clearly beat Ward in the first fight and even the 2nd fight was pretty clearly outboxing Andre before the controversial ending...to hype those wins but ignore the good work Kov has done, just makes you seem really biased imo. I just call it like I see it man...and I think sometimes (as perhaps you realized when you tried to tout the Benitez and Hill wins) when you look at what some of the past 'greats' did...it doesn't necessarily blow you away, or blow some current fighters out of the water. I'm not sure if you are very tribal or a nostalgist..or both...but I think you are the one who looks foolish in trying to say that Hearns and Kov have not had very similar careers, successes, and failures. Anyway hope you have a great day!

Kov was beautiful in the 1st fight. Excellent use of jab. My favorite action in the 1st fight was when Ward was winding up his right arm, mocking Kov, and Kov hit him w/ a stiff jab. Was lol as fuck imo In the rematch Kov complained so many times, some on belt and some low, that it was confusing. Then turning his back to Ward. It was shameful and Kovs whole demeanor in the rematch was different Tony Weekes is a horrible ref imo and 100% should've done a standing 8 count. Awful stoppage. I cant hold that against Ward tho Yeah even the way it ended was kind of awful all around for everyone...I mean those last couple shots were pretty clearly low...to end it on those shots, as some have said, kind of robbed Ward of a more legit finish in the fight. We could argue about whether Ward should have been penalized for earlier low shots etc...and whether Kov should have handled the shots and tactics better...but I think it really would have been a great end to the fight if Weeks had recognized those last couple low shots...given Kov his 5 minutes to recover (would have been generous in a way to Kov as he was clearly tired/hurt at that point, but the rules would have given him that luxury). And then we could have seen if Kov had anything left, and if Ward could get the stoppage and finish without any controversy...that fight is just confirmation bias for a lot of us...if you think Ward was protected and dirty, that fight confirmed it...if you think Ward was great then that fight confirmed it...we can all just see what we want to see sometimes, myself included.

Hof resume but not AtG. Resume's will make a fighter a Hall of Famer. W's on that resume will make a fighter an AtG. Thats the difference. He doesn't have the Ws yet, but he can still try to get a few.

Looks like you're a lot more hurt than I am since you responded to a sentence with paragraphs. Hearns and Kovalev are not similar at all and the fact that your're comparing their careers is beyond stupid. By the way, Hearns also beat Wilfred Benitez. So obviously you don't know as much about Hearns as you claim.

Man I'm really sorry if I hurt your feelings by comparing two similarly great fighters...Tommy was actually one of my all time favorites. I also mentioned specifically (maybe read it again if you need an education ;)....where they were similar and different. Great as Tommy was - as great as his run through the weight classes was - can you name me 1 great win other than Duran? You can't...not without having to admit that Kov has a very similar resume, and if he was (rightfully) given the nod over Ward in fight 1, he would have his signature win as well. But if you want to sulk about two great, but flawed, fighters getting compared to one another, don't let me stop ya :) Looks like you're a lot more hurt than I am since you responded to a sentence with paragraphs. You once created a thread asking why Golovkin gets hate. But I'm the one that's hurt? LOL Hearns and Kovalev are not similar at all and the fact that your're comparing their careers is beyond stupid. By the way, Hearns also beat Wilfred Benitez. So obviously you don't know as much about Hearns as you claim. Also, Benitez and Duran were not 50 years old when Hearns did it. Hearns win over Virgil Hill at light Heavyweight alone is better than any win on Kovalev's resume

You're the last person who should talk about bias when it comes to Kovalev and Golovkin. You compared Kovalev's resume to Thomas Hearns as if they're equal. That speaks for itself. No one here brought up GGG...just living in your head rent free I guess lol

You're the last person who should talk about bias when it comes to Kovalev and Golovkin. You compared Kovalev's resume to Thomas Hearns as if they're equal. That speaks for itself. Man I'm really sorry if I hurt your feelings by comparing two similarly great fighters...Tommy was actually one of my all time favorites. I also mentioned specifically (maybe read it again if you need an education ;)....where they were similar and different. Great as Tommy was - as great as his run through the weight classes was - can you name me 1 great win other than Duran? You can't...not without having to admit that Kov has a very similar resume, and if he was (rightfully) given the nod over Ward in fight 1, he would have his signature win as well. But if you want to sulk about two great, but flawed, fighters getting compared to one another, don't let me stop ya :)

Kovalev turned his back to Ward, pleaded with ref multiple times regarding beltline shots, and literally bent over before sitting on the ropes. The punch that ended it was a straight to the jaw. Everything after that was icing on the cake. A trilogy wouldve been great, but Ward retired. It's not like he went on facing bums...he stopped fighting altogether. 1st fight shouldve been Kovy if nothing else than for the KD. Ward can make a case for 6 rounds in that fight though Yeah I don't think Kov handled those tactics well in fight 2...it ended up being a smart gameplan from Ward...I do think the home field advantage there helped him to get away with some low shots. Which is a big advantage because if you get warned/penalized for going low (which I feel he should have been but just my 2 cents), then you can't really afford to keep going to the body...and as you mentioned many shots Ward landed appeared to be clean and on the beltline at worst. I think he could have proven a lot of people wrong - me included - had he gone on to fight his mando Beterbiev or a couple other young stars who were coming up and are now at 175...but I don't know how his body was feeling so I have no real judgment on any of it. The fact though that he was apparently trying to fight Bellew or some other guy at CW or even do some tune ups and take on Joshua...was a little off-putting when I felt the real fights for him were there at 175. Right before that shot to the jaw, Kov was doubled over and complaining about the low shots...which I don't think were low...but maybe some of the low shots took a toll on him there..hard to say...but I do think he was hurting downstairs and that is what left him open to the shot upstairs. Man no offense - but I remember watching that Ward-Kov fight, eager to see who the better man was...two men of equal billing were squaring off, and I just couldn't make a call on who would win...I watched tape on both for hours to try and figure out who would win. When the bell rang - I just said, let the best man win...and it was pretty clear imo who the better man was that night...Ward was getting embarrassed the first 6 rounds...I felt bad for him...and the last 6 I felt good for him that he scrapped his way in there and fought even the last 6 rounds...I just don't see how anyone can give him more than 4 rounds in that fight. I thought the whole fight may go the way of the last 6 rounds...where Kov was somewhat neutralized but still maybe just outboxing Ward...but I felt Ward would get the benefit of doubt in the close rounds since he always seems to, and since he was at home...sorry I just can't see a way to getting more than 4 rounds for him in fight 1 unless I was being really biased.

34W 29ko 3L(2ko) 1D - -If you gotta ask, you don't deserve to know.

What are you talking about And he was also ahead on all 3 official scorecards after the first fight...what happens in the ring and what gets scored are not always the same thing, and I know you know this. To put another way...Kov won the punch count round by round 9-7...16-10...11-9...surely you would give him 2/3 of those. Then 10-14 (Ward outlanding Kov)...14-9...12-7...and 11-4. Punches landed aren't everything but they often times tell the story...winning 6/7 rounds on the punch stats...4 of them by 5+ punches...I mean to say Andre deserved to be up at that point... I just don't really get it unless you are biased and looking for any way to get him a round...not accusing you of that but yeah can't see how anyone could possibly have him legitimately up after 7...5-2 Kov pretty clearly the right score imo. You're the last person who should talk about bias when it comes to Kovalev and Golovkin. You compared Kovalev's resume to Thomas Hearns as if they're equal. That speaks for itself.

Ward was ahead on two of the three scorecards. You can't just make up your own scorecard as if it's official. What are you talking about And he was also ahead on all 3 official scorecards after the first fight...what happens in the ring and what gets scored are not always the same thing, and I know you know this. To put another way...Kov won the punch count round by round 9-7...16-10...11-9...surely you would give him 2/3 of those. Then 10-14 (Ward outlanding Kov)...14-9...12-7...and 11-4. Punches landed aren't everything but they often times tell the story...winning 6/7 rounds on the punch stats...4 of them by 5+ punches...I mean to say Andre deserved to be up at that point... I just don't really get it unless you are biased and looking for any way to get him a round...not accusing you of that but yeah can't see how anyone could possibly have him legitimately up after 7...5-2 Kov pretty clearly the right score imo.

Carl Froch...now THAT was a resume.

Anyone saying that first fight was really even debatable is the one doing the 'fellating' lol...and to act like everything that happened in the 2nd fight was on the up and up...I mean if that's what you want to tell yourself man, go ahead, I won't stop ya...an ending like that, especially after the 1st fight, a real man would have given a 3rd fight right away, especially since it would have sold well. And I just trust what my eyes tell me...Ward got outboxed 8-4 (being generous) in fight 1...and was getting outboxed about 5-2 in fight 2 before the controversial ending...not every shot was low but some definitely were, and the ones that ended it definitely were. I think Kov should have handled the tactics better so I don't really give him a pass...but yeah in a neutral setting Ward is possibly DQd there and at least penalized/Kov given time to recover. Hilarious btw that you think posting gay **** on a public forum is owning someone lol...you had to search for and download that right now to try and 'show me'...or even worse you have that saved on your computer...for what reason I have no idea...well I have an idea but yeah it's disgusting lol. Enjoy that ban I guess man...I won't be reporting you but I'm sure someone will. Ward was ahead on two of the three scorecards. You can't just make up your own scorecard as if it's official.

Most agree he won the first Ward fight though. Best wins: 1. Ward 2. Yarde (not technically but a huge fast power puncher with an iron chin is an incredibly hard out for anyone. Would have loved to see Yarde vs Ward, styles make fights. Yarde looked even stronger and harder punching than Kovalev. Ward wobbled from Kovalev's jab. He might have gone with one Yarde punch. Remember the Boone fight? Boone is like a poor man's Yarde...) 3. Alvarez 4. BHop 5. Pascal Not bad. you cant just make up wins for boxers..he lost man, he lost

no..............

ATG resume? Heck no

Shame he didn't get the Stevenson fight, would have probably won and very unlucky to not have beaten ward, giving 7 rounds for Ward is a stretch if you ask me and I thought Kovalev won 7 or 8 rounds plus a knockdown and its a robbery in my eyes. But he has been one of the best fighters at LHW in his era, HOF for sure and debatable for ATG, probably missing the stand out wins though, add Canelo and some of the current LHW champions and there's no debate anymore.