Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: In Rematch, Either Me or Wilder Will Get Knocked Out!

Hey I actually like this post! You have made a valid point but that is one that can be made for ANY sporting event which is why they play the games or in this case have the fights. I actually was saying that I see a KO by WILDER but not because of what I think Wilder is saying he will do but more because of what Tyson is saying HE IS CONSIDERING!!! Yes I am a Wilder fan but I believe that Tyson is easily a MUCH BETTER BOXER! If he boxes Wilder I believe that Tyson has a good chance of defeating Wilder BUT If he tries to beat Wilder by PRESSING FORWARD..... HE IS GOING TO GET PAJAMAS PUT ON HIM!!! Anyone stepping into Wilder's power punches will eventually get KOed. He is just that powerful. I did like your analogy though Thank you, The analogy was the first part, here is the second part. precident. When Evander Fought Tyson, not since the Baer Braddock fight did people actually fear that a fighter would be seriously maimed... Tyson was going to crush Holy... He was shot, yada yada. Don Turner had coached Holy and taught him something very simple...in fact something used in Ju Jutsu as a principle for unbalancing an opponent. He told Holy not to go back, not to back off of Mike, but to push in and put him on his heels (called triangulating someone in some schools of Jitz) He said that when Mike was trying to push back, attack... Holy, who loved to slug it out, was not stupid. He knew that he better be coached in this one. So despite what everyone thought to be, a very smart boxing man knew better. Fury probably understands the same thing: The precedent here. To beat a puncher unbalance a puncher, go into him, and when he tried to set, attack him. Pressing forwards may seem a crazy thing to do, but if you understand how balance works, and how a puncher works, it is a legitimate strategy for beating a puncher. Punchers are into numbers: the great model for the perfect punching heavyweight, Louis basically could be slow and methodical...as long as he knew he would hit you solid, maybe...oh lets say 15 times in a fight... Making that number up. Punchers get their prey when a guy tries to get away, or when a guy tries to follow them. When getting away they cut the ring off, when a guy follows a puncher, he walks into a trap. Punchers do not like, when someone comes in to them and makes their base unsteady. Watch how Schmelling beat Louis the first time. He countered a lazy right and it made Louis unable to throw that punch or anything off that punch. So Fury deciding to go into Wilder and disrupt his base by attacking him is a good strategy provided he makes Wilder go on his heels when backing up. He might even knock Wilder out doing this. Wilder can be hurt, and has been. Wilder wants to be able to find Fury in the ring at will that is his strategy. If Fury tries to evade him all night it will be a long hard fight for him to win. I actually think Fury realizes this. We shall see. It will be a decent scrap for sure.

Fury wants a war this time. He's gonna show us "Gypsy Style." What exactly is that? We'll find out in 2020.

It every conondrum was to be settled with common sense, we would not need to think deeply about any situation. My dog has common sense, and Aristotle venerated it, but warned that it is not all inclusive. Sometimes things are not as they appear. For example, lets say we have a bet: I have a snake that is one of the largest, most intelligent, most vicious, most well equipped predators...It even eats other snakes its same size...We will call it a King Cobra. I also have a furry little rodent thing, that is not generally known for being an apex predator, but likes to fight King Cobras...we will call it a Mongoose. Ill give you two to one on the mongoose.... Common sense right? You do of course know that mongoose owns cobras. Things are not always as they appear right? For example, Fury actually has a fairly respectable KO percentage. Also, he did buzz Wilder if you watch tape of that fight. Also, its coming up from time to time that nobody has tried to finish Wilder...Ortiz couldn't and Fury didn't take the risk of trying. So we don't know how Fury will respond to such an onslaught quite yet, do we? This fight could wind up with a Wilder KO. It looks more realistic when you look closely and carefully at Wilder and Fury. Hey I actually like this post! You have made a valid point but that is one that can be made for ANY sporting event which is why they play the games or in this case have the fights. I actually was saying that I see a KO by WILDER but not because of what I think Wilder is saying he will do but more because of what Tyson is saying HE IS CONSIDERING!!! Yes I am a Wilder fan but I believe that Tyson is easily a MUCH BETTER BOXER! If he boxes Wilder I believe that Tyson has a good chance of defeating Wilder BUT If he tries to beat Wilder by PRESSING FORWARD..... HE IS GOING TO GET PAJAMAS PUT ON HIM!!! Anyone stepping into Wilder's power punches will eventually get KOed. He is just that powerful. I did like your analogy though

Let's see we have one guy who is a light fisted COUNTER PUNCHER who's greatest asset is being elusive versus one of the HARDEST PUNCHERS in HISTORY who has literally KOed EVERYBODY he has ever faced with the exception of ONE who he dropped TWICE...... Hmmmmmm I wonder who has the better chance of a KO?!?!? It every conondrum was to be settled with common sense, we would not need to think deeply about any situation. My dog has common sense, and Aristotle venerated it, but warned that it is not all inclusive. Sometimes things are not as they appear. For example, lets say we have a bet: I have a snake that is one of the largest, most intelligent, most vicious, most well equipped predators...It even eats other snakes its same size...We will call it a King Cobra. I also have a furry little rodent thing, that is not generally known for being an apex predator, but likes to fight King Cobras...we will call it a Mongoose. Ill give you two to one on the mongoose.... Common sense right? You do of course know that mongoose owns cobras. Things are not always as they appear right? For example, Fury actually has a fairly respectable KO percentage. Also, he did buzz Wilder if you watch tape of that fight. Also, its coming up from time to time that nobody has tried to finish Wilder...Ortiz couldn't and Fury didn't take the risk of trying. So we don't know how Fury will respond to such an onslaught quite yet, do we? This fight could wind up with a Wilder KO. It looks more realistic when you look closely and carefully at Wilder and Fury.

I strongly think that there won't be any Wilder/Fury rematch before the unification. Fury is just promoting his next fight. Did we hear anything from Shelly Finkel? He always addresses the media whenever there is an update.

Let's see we have one guy who is a light fisted COUNTER PUNCHER who's greatest asset is being elusive versus one of the HARDEST PUNCHERS in HISTORY who has literally KOed EVERYBODY he has ever faced with the exception of ONE who he dropped TWICE...... Hmmmmmm I wonder who has the better chance of a KO?!?!?

Breazeale also had it right ,caught Wilder coming in and had him stunned with the first shot landing backing up but then stood there and backed away letting Wilder do his double pump step and let him come forward and it was lights out. The thing is Fury isn't as heavy handed so I see this playing pout like the first fight and Wilder getting stunned late and maybe stopped. When we look at historically great fighters like Liston, and we see their skill in finishing, when getting a man in trouble, it starts to make sense why this skill is important. Wilder was born with great survival instincts. I like to think I am the same way lol, we all probably do! What it breaks down to is when some people are hurt they back off, others get crazy, focused and aggressive when hurt. When you hurt Wilder you have to finish the job and cannot wear him down slowly. Again there is a reason for this: Wilder does not have to win rounds, get points. He only has to make sure he hits you enough times to finish the job once. So if you win a whole bunch of rounds, or not...Its all the same for Wilder. For him to win is a numbers game. He has to connect enough times. I can't think of a better example than his Fury fight.

Breazeale also had it right ,caught Wilder coming in and had him stunned with the first shot landing backing up but then stood there and backed away letting Wilder do his double pump step and let him come forward and it was lights out. The thing is Fury isn't as heavy handed so I see this playing pout like the first fight and Wilder getting stunned late and maybe stopped. Lol do you understand what stun is? to be knocked unconscious or semi-unconsciousness, to not be able to react or be In a daze. Wilder wasn’t none of that. He was wild in trying to catch Dominic and got caught with a punch and just backed up a lil he wasn’t “stunned” or bother by it, he just realized he got hit with a punch. There’s another view of that same punch from the other side and Wilder looked regular. Where he DID get stunned at was versus Ortiz. Right before he got hurt, he went for a punch got countered and stayed in the pocket(clearly a lil ‘buzzed’ or stunned” then throws a follow up punch maybe to show “toughness” and that’s when things went downhill. Not surprising because a couple sparring partners said Wilder hits the hardest of all fighters and Ortiz cracked the hardest after him, then Joshua. So if we are to believe Joshua is the heavy hard puncher than wilder taking that punishment from a harder-than-Joshua puncher in MID ROUNDS means his chin is valid. Plus to make sense of this thread, Fury clearly doesn’t have power to hurt Wilder let alone knock him down if he sustained 30secs plus of that punishment in the middle of a fight. Fury only chance of winning is to box and came close to that last time. This one is for all the marbles.

Don't put so much emphasis on talk. Talk is cheap and Fury does a lot of it. The only thing that matters is what happens in the ring. I feel you, but its hard to ignore when it's him. Ultimately though you are right

Promoting is okay but you will be remembered with your fists. War!

Regarding strategy Fury understands that Wilder has not really had anyone go at him and try to Ko him except maybe King Kong. And that fight was a barn burner, Ortiz almost had Wilder. Its the same basic logic that Holyfield used against Tyson. Instead of avoiding the "beast" go into the belly of the beast, attack the beast and make the beast have to worry about being beat up! Fury is just smart enough to realize what an advantage it is to have people automatically try to avoid an opponent. I don't blame Fury, I would be talking about attacking Wilder as well (whether I chose to, or not). Ortiz had it right the first time, just could not sustain it.

I AGREE with Fury this time. In the first fight, Fury and Wilder both fought timidly and barely threw any punches. They weren't themselves in there. The action only heated up in the second half of the fight because they were figuring each other out. In the rematch, someone will get KTFO. Fury will fight with more confidence. When he puts his weight into his shots, he can do damage. He's capable of countering Wilder and blindsiding him with hooks and uppercuts on the inside. It's the punches you don't see coming that hurt the most. Wilder will have 15 lbs. more muscle than the first fight, and will go to the body more. This will wear down the Gypsy King and open him up to huge power shots upstairs. This fight won't last 9 rounds. It may not even last 6 rounds.

Fury was very elusive in the first fight. But he sure wasn't very effective in countering. Wilder landed 17% of his punches and Fury landed 26% and only 13 more punches the entire 12 round fight. Squeaked out rounds that he "won" by 1 or 2 punches in 7 rounds. Against a guy as inaccurate as Wilder was, he should have been tattooing him with counters. If Wilder hadn't gotten those knockdowns his performance would have been jokingly abysmal with all the missing he did, but I may be in the minority in saying Fury's performance wasn't good either. Make 'em miss and make 'em pay... for the most part Fury forgot the second part of that saying. I hope he does a whole lot more if it gets to the cards in the rematch. Fury is always a lot more pleased with his performance in bigger fights than I think he should be ...e.g. the Klitchko victory which is a candidate for the worst hw title fight in history - total slopfest. I question those stats. Even if they are punch stat numbers there is no way these stats could be true. Watching the fight tells one these numbers could not be accurate. When saying Fury's performance was not good, or good, or sloppy, or clean...based on what? If you look at the film Fury was very accurate. Wilder straightened his punch out for that second knock down. Again, saying what Fury "should have" countered is silly. This fight was a decent scrap. Fury was coming off a period of low activity and Wilder was fighting a very gifted boxer. Neither guy is an easy opponent.

And Fury doesn't lie. He changes his stance repeatedly in the press because he sees the whole thing as a charade. He goes out of his way to confuse and trigger people from interview to interview, purposely having 180 turns in his opinions. It is a joke to him. You morons who get so worked up about this stuff prove his point perfectly.

So much hate from "fans" of the pretenders/wannabes. Fury vs. Wilder II, the biggest rivalry of this generation. Whatever happens, I am just happy that we get to see the best fight the best.

I like Fury and Fury in the rematch but he claimed he's going to have full faith in the judges to score the fight correctly in the rematch but here he's saying a win isn't possible on the cards ? His constant lying is why he's not my favorite heavyweight , following him and things he states is a major headache , I stopped awhile back. They all lie to the press. Both Wilder and Joshua have contradicted themselves multiple times in the same interview. Who gives a damn? Other than you that is. Maybe you should watch a soap opera instead of boxing because you seem more concerned with what is said between fights than what actually happens in a fight. Typical millennial PC thug behavior.

That there is something you wouldn't say to his face. Just providing the reality check for you there. He's a typical keyboard warrior who talks all kinds of trash behind his computer but in real life he would probably cower and hide if he pissed off the mailman.

Didn't he just back the judges? This man can't make up his mind on anything Don't put so much emphasis on talk. Talk is cheap and Fury does a lot of it. The only thing that matters is what happens in the ring.

Wilder almost got knocked down himself in the later rounds when he was exhausted. It could happen if Fury sits on his punches in the championship rounds. That's what I was thinking as well. Some fans here are so blinded by their unwavering obsession/loyalty to one boxer that they can't view things even remotely objectively or take in all possible outcomes.

Well then you are getting knocked out because your powder punches are not going to knock out a granny We'll see. Anyone can get knocked out if they tire themselves out going for the KO and get hit enough times consistently while doing so. People said the same thing about Ali against Foreman. If Fury has the perfect game plan and is able to sit down on his punches a little more without getting caught, it could get very interesting.