If Pacman were to somehow beat Spence/Porter winner next year or beat Floyd in a rematch then where would you personally rank him as a all time great?
I would say he would be top 25 or top 20 all time fighters ever if he gets the task done in those extreme difficulties of goals!
If Spence doesn't look good against Porter, I'm pretty sure they will only downgrage Manny's win on Spence.
If Spence (vs Porter) looked like Foreman knocking out Frazier, then Manny becomes Boxing Zeus if he defeats that version of Spence.
this right here.. that's the pattern on here.. once upon a time, keith thurman was view as the best ww on here.
GrandPac would be #5-7 of the ATG list if he beat Spence-Porter winner... I currently rank him at around #8-10...
Dunno why TBE (not The Best Ever) is even mentioned here... But I currently rank him at around #25-30...
Manny not top 10???
Let’s take a look wins over
Larios
Barrera 2x
Morales 2x
Marquez
Hatton
Bradley
Mosley
Maragarito
Cotto
Dlh(old weight drained I know)
Mattyhsse
Thurman at 40 Fukin yrs old
That resume is ridiculous and please let’s not nit pick opponents cuz trust I will easily be able to do that with any top 10 fighter on you’re list.
Now please tell me you’re too 10 and let’s compare those resumes?
I’ve been around boxing a long time huge fan of the old timers and I know it’s difficult in boxing for the new greats to surpass the old greats but guys like manny are the exception he’s clearly top 10 but I also know the media is totally biased towards black and white fighters(we all know that) but manny is a rare breed he fuuckks with any guys in the top 10 all time.
And I’m no Filipino.
you are insane if you think Pac is a top 10 ATG
that is ridiculous
btw... wherever Pac is, Floyd is higher... and he is not top 10 either
Hopkins..... after setting a world record for title defences at middleweight..... became a GENUINE world champion at 46yo
keywords..... " GENUINE " ..... " 46yo "
he also added other good/excellent wins after 40yo
and yet..... Hopkins is not ranked in the top 20
pacfans do not rate him at all LMAO
you guys need to stop leap-frogging Pac over GREAT fighters simply because he beat Thurman lol
if Pac beat Crawford at 147 I would be REALLY impressed
that would put him really close to top 20 then imho
The thing with bh is though he started boxing late and his 20 title defenses werent really appreciated at the time as they were smaller and names that didn't impress.
Bh impressed people by mostly what he did at advanced age. But I rate bh similar to I rate floyd giving floydvedge
Whilst Pac s been doing it from 19 against the who's who and more often than not doing business. Pac had a few hiccups mainly because he was work in progress learning trade on job.
Pac s top 5 already. Some thinks he's goat already. If he beats spence even.more will think Pac s goat than they already do.
I'm on fence at the moment though.
Hopkins..... after setting a world record for title defences at middleweight..... became a GENUINE world champion at 46yo
keywords..... " GENUINE " ..... " 46yo "
he also added other good/excellent wins after 40yo
and yet..... Hopkins is not ranked in the top 20
pacfans do not rate him at all LMAO
you guys need to stop leap-frogging Pac over GREAT fighters simply because he beat Thurman lol
if Pac beat Crawford at 147 I would be REALLY impressed
that would put him really close to top 20 then imho
If Spence doesn't look good against Porter, I'm pretty sure they will only downgrage Manny's win on Spence.
If Spence (vs Porter) looked like Foreman knocking out Frazier, then Manny becomes Boxing Zeus if he defeats that version of Spence.
If he beats Spence, he'll basically be Boxing Jesus.
Defeating Floyd won't do much for his legacy. Beating a retired 42 year old who fights japanese sushi chefs with insecurity issues isn't really that impressive.
yep
that is why nobody wants to see Canelo/Golovkin again
Surefire opinion but IMO I have Pacquiao at #32 all time ever fighters but beating a Spence/Porter winner at age 41 would be in the mythical realms and pushes him to 20 or
Possibly #19!
There are some really mythical legends on the all time lists!
Floyd behind Pacman? It’s true Pacman has fought absolutely everyone and everything and done it all! He’s at a point where he’s just either adding or/and adding to his all time legacy!
Floyd is #30
Pacman would surpass Floyd if he does the unthinkable which now seems to not be so impossible after what he did to a prime undefeated welterweight champ who was considered the best at 147!
it is very difficult to determine, even for knowledgeable professionals
I agree with just about everything you have said, in both posts
your viewpoint is far more accurate than most others imho
also.....
I know Floyd is great, I am not hating on him..... but beating Spence would actually be more impressive than beating Floyd at this point..... not necessarily because of Floyd's age, but because of his inactivity
#theynevercomeback
Spence is a bad boy
if Pac really wants to be let off the leash, he should look at Spence..... not sure who would win out of Spence/Crawford, but Spence is a more-winnable fight for Pac due to style
that would be an excellent win..... much better than Thurman, who does not look like the same fighter imo
If Pacman were to somehow beat Spence/Porter winner next year or beat Floyd in a rematch then where would you personally rank him as a all time great?
I would say he would be top 25 or top 20 all time fighters ever if he gets the task done in those extreme difficulties of goals!
I think that would be pretty close
Pac is not currently top 20... aside from the recent murmurings
Floyd is close to that
people who rank those guys in the top 10 are fkn morons
If he beats Spence, he'll basically be Boxing Jesus.
Defeating Floyd won't do much for his legacy. Beating a retired 42 year old who fights japanese sushi chefs with insecurity issues isn't really that impressive.
Pac is already top 20. Floyd isnt far behind Pac.
Surefire opinion but IMO I have Pacquiao at #32 all time ever fighters but beating a Spence/Porter winner at age 41 would be in the mythical realms and pushes him to 20 or
Possibly #19!
There are some really mythical legends on the all time lists!
Floyd behind Pacman? It’s true Pacman has fought absolutely everyone and everything and done it all! He’s at a point where he’s just either adding or/and adding to his all time legacy!
Floyd is #30
Pacman would surpass Floyd if he does the unthinkable which now seems to not be so impossible after what he did to a prime undefeated welterweight champ who was considered the best at 147!
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