Pacquiao is put back onto Ring Magazine's P4P list (at #10)

this is how silly this discussion is..... FACT: we all know not to put any stock in ABC titles we all know this we all know that NOW, there are 100+ current world " titles " at any point in time we KNOW..... that they LITERALLY give those fkn things away FACT: Thurman should have been stripped following 2 years of inactivity FACT: Thurman was not one of the top 2x welterweights FACT: if Thurman fought any mid-top welter before facing Pacquiao, he probably would have lost FACT: Thurman was NOT a genuine welterweight champion, he was just a belt-holder those facts prove that you lunatics will desperately grasp onto any straw to keep your silly argument afloat LMAO it was just Thurman

You call them pacstains but you are far worse becuase you only care about undefeated records. Thurman is a better opponent Floyd would never fight him he fought Berto instead, and then McGregor to get 50 and 0 if Pac foguth McGregor you would **** on Pac and you know itjust admit you are biased dumb ass at least im fair, and unbiased I rip Pac hard, and have never ripped Floyd on here. But you have no clue you just hate Pacquiao, you have zero credibility on here, Crawford has a weak resume so does Spence, spence fought some no name mexicano in Dallas and then fights Mikey a blown up lightweight but for some reason you are good at picking apart a 5 foot 4 blown up Pacman and want to rip him you are basically crapping on Floyds biggest win, by downgrading Pacman and have no clue you are doing it. because you are not a boxing fan. you are full-of-it being " fair and unbiased "..... means having a clue stop with your "ABC-doe" bullshlt..... Thurman was a largely unproven mid-level welter who's only good win is scraping past Shawn Porter FACT: at least 4x current welters would have beaten Thurman I give Thurman NO CHANCE against Spence or Crawford, and I also think that Porter would beat this version of Thurman..... possibly even Garcia there is NOTHING special about that win, other than Pac's age that win is certainly NOT as good as 38yo Floyd shutting Pacquiao down..... or 36yo Floyd sweeping Canelo on the cards..... NOT EVEN CLOSE you guys are going FULL-RET4RD..... AGAIN !! It was just Thurman

Pac was jmm used goods so flo yd win over smaller Pac whilst fighting scared isn't as special as Pac s win over thurman at 40 something never done. Before fight it was generally accepted Pac beating thurman would make Pac even further ahead of Floyd than he already was in beating man Floyd ducked hilarious :lol1::lol1:

Hard to think that anyone is better P4P than the 40 yo who beat a prime, undefeated, naturally bigger welterweight.

no, Floyd's win over Pac is much more historically significant :lol1: and most Mayweather opponents were better than Thurman seriously, you silly pacstains go full-****** at the drop of a hat before that fight, if anybody had suggested that beating Thurman would somehow miraculously vault Pac over Mayweather..... they would have been ridiculed.... and yet, here you are :lol1: You call them pacstains but you are far worse becuase you only care about undefeated records. Thurman is a better opponent Floyd would never fight him he fought Berto instead, and then McGregor to get 50 and 0 if Pac foguth McGregor you would **** on Pac and you know itjust admit you are biased dumb ass at least im fair, and unbiased I rip Pac hard, and have never ripped Floyd on here. But you have no clue you just hate Pacquiao, you have zero credibility on here, Crawford has a weak resume so does Spence, spence fought some no name mexicano in Dallas and then fights Mikey a blown up lightweight but for some reason you are good at picking apart a 5 foot 4 blown up Pacman and want to rip him you are basically crapping on Floyds biggest win, by downgrading Pacman and have no clue you are doing it. because you are not a boxing fan.

no, Floyd's win over Pac is much more historically significant :lol1: and most Mayweather opponents were better than Thurman seriously, you silly pacstains go full-****** at the drop of a hat before that fight, if anybody had suggested that beating Thurman would somehow miraculously vault Pac over Mayweather..... they would have been ridiculed.... and yet, here you are :lol1: Pac was jmm used goods so flo yd win over smaller Pac whilst fighting scared isn't as special as Pac s win over thurman at 40 something never done. Before fight it was generally accepted Pac beating thurman would make Pac even further ahead of Floyd than he already was in beating man Floyd ducked

I'm curious to see how this version of Thurman does in rematches against Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter. They will fight again for sure or at least of them. The abrupt plan of vacationing is now off the table since he lost. So I'm sure one of them can get it soon. Best possibility is porter again after he lose to Errol. We will soon find out.

I don't think there would be a lot of complaints if Manny went to number one, he has a legitimate reason to be so after beating Thurman who has the greatest welterweight resume out there beside Pac and also still undefeated, but it is what it is, Ring Magazine must have a different criteria of ranking than TBRB and others as well. I think the main reason for Ring Magazine is eye test. They believe Manny can't beat Crawford and Errol, they already pre-judged him. TBRB went to the more objective route, they believe Khan is too delusional to be a good win and Mikey Garcia is obviously not a true Welterweight who just went up 2 weight division and the rest of Manny, Crawford and Errol's competition is something to complain about. There was no really impressive competition for the 3 of them other than Keith Thurman who is coming in his greatest physical shape ever, Keith's physic is so transformed that even Danny Garcia was so shook proclaiming him the winner of the fight in advance. Contrary to popular belief, I believe this is also the very best version of Keith Thurman, this Keith is measured, not punching wide and wild like before and is relentless. If the old Keith Version shows up, the one who is careless and punches so wide, I think Manny Knock or stopped him very soon. That version of Keith has no business against Manny basing from their recent match. I'm curious to see how this version of Thurman does in rematches against Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter.

I don't think there would be a lot of complaints if Manny went to number one, he has a legitimate reason to be so after beating Thurman who has the greatest welterweight resume out there beside Pac and also still undefeated, but it is what it is, Ring Magazine must have a different criteria of ranking than TBRB and others as well. I think the main reason for Ring Magazine is eye test. They believe Manny can't beat Crawford and Errol, they already pre-judged him. TBRB went to the more objective route, they believe Khan is too delusional to be a good win and Mikey Garcia is obviously not a true Welterweight who just went up 2 weight division and the rest of Manny, Crawford and Errol's competition is something to complain about. There was no really impressive competition for the 3 of them other than Keith Thurman who is coming in his greatest physical shape ever, Keith's physic is so transformed that even Danny Garcia was so shook proclaiming him the winner of the fight in advance. Contrary to popular belief, I believe this is also the very best version of Keith Thurman, this Keith is measured, not punching wide and wild like before and is relentless. If the old Keith Version shows up, the one who is careless and punches so wide, I think Manny Knock or stopped him very soon. That version of Keith has no business against Manny basing from their recent match.

before that fight, if anybody had suggested that beating Thurman would somehow miraculously vault Pac over Mayweather..... they would have been ridiculed.... and yet, here you are :lol1: oh no, losing multiple fights, some by knockout..... is completely irrelevant..... that makes no difference at all and no, Mayweather schooling Pac is also irrelevant..... it means nothing lets just forget about all the negatives, and focus on Pac beating THURMAN loooool :lol1::lol1: will Thurman be remember more than say..... David Diaz ? did Thurman even achieve more than David Diaz ? :lol1:

Pac s win over thurman is historically better than anything on floyds resume. no, Floyd's win over Pac is much more historically significant :lol1: and most Mayweather opponents were better than Thurman seriously, you silly pacstains go full-****** at the drop of a hat before that fight, if anybody had suggested that beating Thurman would somehow miraculously vault Pac over Mayweather..... they would have been ridiculed.... and yet, here you are :lol1:

And rightly so After his last fight , which was as a whole pretty damn amazing Take into consideration his resume and that just enforces it

exactly Pac only beat Thurman..... not Spence and Crawford Thurman is just a mid-level welter..... who would almost certainly lose to at least 4 current welterweights..... beating Thurman aint that special if a number of guys can do it Porter would beat Thurman, and he aint elite..... and yet you want to crown Pac the GOAT for doing the same thing :lol1::lol1: Pac s win over thurman is historically better than anything on floyds resume.

I wouldn't have a problem with Pacquiao being the #1 welterweight after what he just did in the fight with Thurman. How he can compete at such a high level at his age is truly remarkable! U thought Thurman was going to win by decision or stoppage. Many people are underestimating how good Thurman is and as a consequence they're also underestimating Pacquiao

Pacquiao should be ranked the number 1 welterweight, he beat the man. Thurman was widely considered the best before the year and half layoff. If floyd can remain the man after three years off i dont get how they can rank crawford so high. Welterweight should be pacman, spence, porter, thurman, and crawford. Spence fought mikey garcia who wasnt ranked and was moving up Crawford fought khan who was just a name and a shell Crawford needs to leave top rank, there are no names for him there. The champs are at pbc Very good point !

It dont matter how someone looked in a fight, Thurman was undefeated, you really dont know how to objectively rank fighters do you? ranking system is not how a guy looked system. he was only off for a year and half no way can you push him down to 5 or 4 just stop, Floyd was off for like 3 years and still when he returned he was considered the number one guy at welterweight lol just stop dude, Crawford and Spence both knock Pacmna out cold but Pac just bypassed them with his win over Thurman. exactly Pac only beat Thurman..... not Spence and Crawford Thurman is just a mid-level welter..... who would almost certainly lose to at least 4 current welterweights..... beating Thurman aint that special if a number of guys can do it Porter would beat Thurman, and he aint elite..... and yet you want to crown Pac the GOAT for doing the same thing :lol1::lol1:

" at the time "..... ? but, not now..... ? Pac beat him, now..... not, " at the time " he was, One Time Thurman..... not, At This Time Thurman Keith has not looked like the same fighter since returning from injury and inactivity..... nobody in their right mind would rank him above Spence and Crawford, and I think Porter would beat him right now he is likely ranked #5..... #4 at the most It dont matter how someone looked in a fight, Thurman was undefeated, you really dont know how to objectively rank fighters do you? ranking system is not how a guy looked system. he was only off for a year and half no way can you push him down to 5 or 4 just stop, Floyd was off for like 3 years and still when he returned he was considered the number one guy at welterweight lol just stop dude, Crawford and Spence both knock Pacmna out cold but Pac just bypassed them with his win over Thurman.

Bumping Nietes out? Nietes should be #9, GrandPac #10... Mikey should be the one bumped out...

Yes he was, when did you start watch boxing? Thurman had the better resume and before his injury he was the man in the division, beating porter and danny, crawford wasn't even in welterweight so how the hell could he be ranked higher than thurman at the time? " at the time "..... ? but, not now..... ? Pac beat him, now..... not, " at the time " he was, One Time Thurman..... not, At This Time Thurman Keith has not looked like the same fighter since returning from injury and inactivity..... nobody in their right mind would rank him above Spence and Crawford, and I think Porter would beat him right now he is likely ranked #5..... #4 at the most

The disrespect lmao. Name 7 fighters better than Pacquiao right now who are destroying the top of their division... at 40 years of age. F outta here with that bs, D9 cant stand it.