A lot of people (including me) feel that Pac accomplished something historic that will define his legacy and puts him on Floyd's level. However, I can't help but think of other fighters who had HUGE wins that faded in significance after that opponent went on to lose other fights.
If Thurman looks bad after this, will this historic win be downgraded?
If Thurman starts declining then this last fight will be part of the reason why. The beating he took against Pacquiao will surely take something out of him. Keith will not be the same fighter going forward.
Good question. Thurman's future can enhance, or detract from, Pac's strong victory. I'm totally on the fence as to which way it will go, just as I was about who was going to win the fight on Saturday (though when pressed, I picked Thurman.) The win will always look good. But will it be great?
Rosy glasses say Thurman could build on his newfound activity, sharpen his powers, take on Spence or Crawford and maybe pull out a victory. If so, Pacquaio's win looks godlike and tremendous.
On the other hand, heading into the Pacquaio fight, Thurman was averaging just one fight per year for four years straight. Now he's had a couple fights. Will he now revert to inactivity (injuries or no)? Worse, will he defeat a second tier welter only to be annihilated by Spence or Crawford? If so, Pac's win will at least remain an attractive footnote to his career of taking on anyone, anytime, anywhere.
Which would be my guess. I tend to think that Thurman is NOT headed into some great rebirth. "Silk pajamas" and all that. I wouldn't be surprised if he never faces Spence or Crawford at all.
I'm not confident Thurman is the same from before his 2 years off.
One of the more interesting facts with this fight going into it was Thurman had more questions on him than Manny, the old guy, did which is a pretty uncommon thing. I honestly thought youth would still overcome the questions, & it almost did, but Manny was too good or Thurman lost more than most thought or he never even had it THAT good to begin with.
Exactly This
Thurman knew he wasn't ready to fight the top guys and called it the comeback year
Thurman was the underdog going in this fight
This is not the same Thurman from 3 years ago
Hopkins still gets a lot of credit for beating unbeaten pavlik even though pavlik didn't accomplish anything significant afterwards. His Thurman will be considered a great win.
A lot of people (including me) feel that Pac accomplished something historic that will define his legacy and puts him on Floyd's level. However, I can't help but think of other fighters who had HUGE wins that faded in significance after that opponent went on to lose other fights.
If Thurman looks bad after this, will this historic win be downgraded?If another 40 year old beats him then yes.
A lot of people (including me) feel that Pac accomplished something historic that will define his legacy and puts him on Floyd's level. However, I can't help but think of other fighters who had HUGE wins that faded in significance after that opponent went on to lose other fights.
If Thurman looks bad after this, will this historic win be downgraded?
To an extent yes. It remains a great win regardless but the reason Floyd’s win over Canelo looks more to impressive now is largely based on what Canelo has gone on to achieve.
A lot of people (including me) feel that Pac accomplished something historic that will define his legacy and puts him on Floyd's level. However, I can't help but think of other fighters who had HUGE wins that faded in significance after that opponent went on to lose other fights.
If Thurman looks bad after this, will this historic win be downgraded?
I dont think so, it's obvious Thurman can't throw that right hand the same anymore, doesn't have the confidence in that shoulder but he still a genuinely top fighter, rounds 6-12 showed that.
Dude is beatable, always has been, but he's a winner and has pulled out some tough wins when his back was against the wall. You have to look at what Porter and Garcia couldn't do, and what an aged 40 pac did against Thurman. It was a tremendous performance, the craft Manny shows nowadays is still next level.
Now whether he did that or much of his career clean...different convo