Is everyone who fights Pacquiao trying to be like Marquez?

Good thread They all plan to KO manny now like Marquez did Instead of outboxing manny across 12 rounds Agreed. People forget how good Manny's chin is, it's just on that particular night he didn't see it coming. He's fought a bit more cautiously since then.

People forget Pacquiao won the first 3 fights, they were close but I don’t see how he lost any. The fourth Marquez was Roided to the gills, the guys a cheat. And Pacquiao wasn't roided himself? Also, first two were razor close but the third was clearly a Marquez win was disgustingly robbed. Learn some boxing.

they are waiting to counter him but forgetting that JMM made him fight first to make him run into something And that was the 4th fight right? Im sure he had him figured out.

Pac/Jmm had 4 fights. Marquez probably figured Pac out after the first fight, but took 3 more to implement his plan. If that lights out punch did not land, Marquez would've probably been sparked by Pac in that 4th fight. Such is boxing. Props to Marquez for uncorking the unforgettable shot!

Floyd was even trying that same counter right that Marquez used on Pacquiao when he came in with that studder step. I feel like after all those fights Marquez finally got that timing right. He was practicing that in camp and even dropped his sparring partner with that same punch. But what was up with Marquez looking like the incredible hulk that night all jacked up all of the sudden and at that age with Memo also as his PT.

I’d imagine they’re sitting back trying to land a counter because there’s not much choice either. Actually to be fair to Thurman, he took the fight to him plenty of times. Usually though, what are you meant to do? It’s not easy to stand a fight with him because of his hand speed and power, standing and trading knowing he might hit you 3 times for every 1 you land isn’t a great idea. So unless you have some really high IQ like Floyd, or maybe someone who is extremely physical and big and could possibly trap him on the ropes and not let him work, then you’re probably resigned to trying to not get caught in a whirlwind of punches from Manny and trying to nail him with a shot.

People forget Pacquiao won the first 3 fights, they were close but I don’t see how he lost any. The fourth Marquez was Roided to the gills, the guys a cheat. The third was a pretty clear JMM with i thought.

People forget Pacquiao won the first 3 fights, they were close but I don’t see how he lost any. The fourth Marquez was Roided to the gills, the guys a cheat.

Seems like Marquez (with the exception of Floyd) seemed to have Manny figured out. What was it about Marquez's style that caused so many problem. Guys just seem to be looking to counter him. Pacquiao's whole style in a similar way to Lomachenko's style, is entirely dependent on getting the opponent out of position. Marquez understood that, fairly early on; if he didn't go for any of the unnecessary movement, Pacquiao would be there to land on. Thurman seemed to figure that out late, but that body shot messed things up late; if you bear down on Pacquiao and don't go for the, you can fire at will almost.

Yeah, Jessie Vargas took it to heart and mind because Arum was hinting on the possibility of getting a Pac fight. Even hired RJJr for his trainer, applied it to Demarco and actually was connecting. Applied it again with Bradley and caught him with a huge Marquez punch. And Tim almost got KO'd. Finally, Vargas got successful with Sadam Ali.

they are waiting to counter him but forgetting that JMM made him fight first to make him run into something you dont have to do anything to beat pac. just watch the floyd fight

people forgot marquez took multiple killer shots just to land counters.

they are waiting to counter him but forgetting that JMM made him fight first to make him run into something