Never seen someone so salty about someones success. Well maybe besides when Paulie talks about Pac.
Teddy picked Thurman he loses so Pac on drugs?
But its always Pac never his opponent who came in the best shape hes ever been in at the weigh ins compared to Pac who looked soft. Or that he gassed.
Crazy to think the reputation and narrative surrounding Pac all started by some loud mouth who has more evidence of him using something than Pac ever did.
Hey, OK, you got me... Manny did not look like a Mustang last night, he was a Ferrari. My question is, what kind of gas was he using? #PacquiaoThurman
What?
When Holyfield was asked to do it for the Mike Tyson rematch in 1996, he agreed and no one ever said a thing about it again. Even when Holyfield was caught up in the Balco scandal years later, no one ever questions Holyfields wins over Tyson.
Knowing that people would label him a cheat and call in to question his wins, Pacquiao refused the test. That's never going away.
Eh, it looked like power plays, Pacquiao was pfp#1, he’s not simply going with a lower ranked fighter’s uncommon demands and there were negotiations for it, so it’s wasn’t as simple as him saying “no, no testing”. EPO which is what people say Pacquiao is on to this day is best detected via urine and Pacquiao was always take all the urine you want.
Lol Pac dropped off in the 6th. I guess he turned into a pinto?
I know, right? He started definitely looking every bit his age in the back half of the fight. For the most part anyway. If all PEDs could do is get him as far as 5/6 rounds then he needs a new PED guy lol
Really doesn't matter at all what Atlas, or Paulie, or anybody here, or whomever thinks.
No matter who you are, wherever you are, and whatever you do, if you're successful people will try to discredit you and bring you down.
At the end of the day though he's never failed a test, it's all 100% speculation, and Manny P's still cashing all those fight checks.
PEDS are way overrated. They don't improve a boxer that much. Nobody ever says what PEDS the boxer was on. They just say he cheated as if there was some PED that makes a boxer so much better. If Atlas knows Pac cheated then he should be able to tell us which drug improved Pac so much. He can't because there is no PED that can improve him that much. Thurman wasn't tested either and I am sure he can get any ped that Pac can. Pac looked good but he always looks good. Atlas is just an ass hole, a Pac hater and a sore loser.
Pacquiao created this speculation by refusing unconditional OSDT during his prime. It will never go away.
Actually Floyd and his delusional fans created it by falsely accusing him. Manny won an out of court settlement for those lies. He never failed a drug test and was never caught with an illegal IV. It’s suspect how none of these PAC haters ever question Floyd’s success, physique or IV situation.
Teddy Atlas is always wrong on his predictions. This vindicates Pacquiao if anything.
- -Made a living espn convincing the rubes to bet against the Kbros.
How'd that work out for you Teddy?
If Mayweather had beaten Thurman would he be saying the same thing? Hand speed doesn’t come from steroids. You’re blessed with it. Also good footwork. Give me a break.
Never seen someone so salty about someones success. Well maybe besides when Paulie talks about Pac.
Teddy picked Thurman he loses so Pac on drugs?
But its always Pac never his opponent who came in the best shape hes ever been in at the weigh ins compared to Pac who looked soft. Or that he gassed.
Crazy to think the reputation and narrative surrounding Pac all started by some loud mouth who has more evidence of him using something than Pac ever did.
Hey, OK, you got me... Manny did not look like a Mustang last night, he was a Ferrari. My question is, what kind of gas was he using? #PacquiaoThurman— Teddy Atlas (@TeddyAtlasReal) July 21, 2019
- -Race between Loony Teddy and Jellyman for Dumbest Commentator of the Decade...only in Boxing...
Never seen someone so salty about someones success. Well maybe besides when Paulie talks about Pac.
Teddy picked Thurman he loses so Pac on drugs?
But its always Pac never his opponent who came in the best shape hes ever been in at the weigh ins compared to Pac who looked soft. Or that he gassed.
Crazy to think the reputation and narrative surrounding Pac all started by some loud mouth who has more evidence of him using something than Pac ever did.
Hey, OK, you got me... Manny did not look like a Mustang last night, he was a Ferrari. My question is, what kind of gas was he using? #PacquiaoThurman— Teddy Atlas (@TeddyAtlasReal) July 21, 2019
- -Race between Loony Teddy and Jellyman for Dumbest Commentator of the Year...only in Boxing...
Teddy picked Thurman to win the fight.
Teddy's salty for losing a pick again.
Got news for Teddy, Pac was gassed out in the middle rounds.
He got his second wind in the 9th round and was still too tired to chase Thurman around in the 10th after KT was hurt in the body.
VADA twitted they tested Pac four times.
*************** Teddy Atlas. It’s lame as **** to be accusing people of stuff that there is no evidence of. If he gets caught, then take him out. Since he hasn’t, focus your energy on proven drug cheats like Canelo, both Fury’s, Ortiz, Billy Joe Saunders, Whyte, Povetkin, etc... All of these guys get a pass, but we’re shining a light on the only active legend that has no evidence of being dirty? FOH
mofos so confused now.. first they say manny is on peds because of how good he looked, then they say manny didnt beat thurman and that thurman did more than pac! lol.. make up yall mind!!
When he refused it, no one in pro boxing was doing osdt
Its Olympic style drug testing, only the Olympics guys were using it
Pacquiao gets hurt for not doing something that no one else did?
Mayweather didnt do any of that testing either at the time.
What?
When Holyfield was asked to do it for the Mike Tyson rematch in 1996, he agreed and no one ever said a thing about it again. Even when Holyfield was caught up in the Balco scandal years later, no one ever questions Holyfields wins over Tyson.
Knowing that people would label him a cheat and call in to question his wins, Pacquiao refused the test. That's never going away.
I liked Atlas big platform on ESPN at first but it's getting to the point where his "take" is so negative that it comes across as some half thought contrarian bullsh#t.
That was a GREAT fight Saturday night. A great night for boxing too. Of course Atlas comes in and instead of appreciating the historical significance and seismic shift in boxing, he just starts spouting off his self righteous *****. For a guy that has one of the biggest soap boxes for boxing, he regularly diminishes the sports brightest moments. If I didn't know any better I'd say a lot of people on the sports entertainment and broadcasting side at ESPN and Fox are very salty over Pacquiao beating Thurman. Their idiots after all. But in their mind, the Thurman investment has failed miserably and they're ready to throw him away. I miss when HBO had the fight game under one tent. Less psychotic blather trying to please a MSM casual base.
Pacquiao created this speculation by refusing unconditional OSDT during his prime. It will never go away.
When he refused it, no one in pro boxing was doing osdt
Its Olympic style drug testing, only the Olympics guys were using it
Pacquiao gets hurt for not doing something that no one else did?
Mayweather didnt do any of that testing either at the time.
Teddy Atlas is a bonafide pachater and a very bitter person. He had the chance to beat Pac when he trained Bradley but lost big time lol! Hearn is also bitter and still holds grudge over Pac after he chose PBC over matchroom lol! Hopefully Joshua gets KOd again when he fights Ruiz🙈👊🏿
lol!
If Thurman won, these same people wouldn't be accusing him of using even though he's coming off almost 2 years of injury and inactivity and 1 fight where he didn't look good at all.
Funny how that works.
Why doesnt Eddie Hearn ever answer questions abouts AJ's TUE exceptions? he was asked in one interview and totally dodged it.Exactly, it's an open secret that Joshua gets some sort leniency from UKAD and the BBBoC when it comes to PED testing. So why doesn't he focus on that?