Enhances his win over pac? Horn fans don’t say it. Jmm fans don’t say it. Maybe jmm and horns fans have perspective a trait Floyd fans don’t have.
How insecure are Floyd fans..? They’d want you to believe they wanted pac to beat Thurman when we know full well they hoped Thurman would ko pac.
Because Floyd fans are not dumb they know pac is furthering distance between Floyd and pac
Pac rematched barrera so Pac did rematch people he beat convincingly. He didn't rematch clottey and ssm because Pac fights a lot and was kept busty beating barrera, Bradley and jmm more times than Floyd never beat anyone. What's flouds excuse for not rematching again? To Pad out his resume with bertos, ortiz and guerreros whilst ducking thurman and rematches with nel o at full 154 and in.prime probably
Dude just stop. Manny giving a guy he got a tko win over could be considered padding stats. He didn’t rematch guys he blew out like Shane and clottey.
Floyd rematches the guys who he had close wins against, Castillo and maidana. Yeah he could’ve rematched odh But didn’t. Manny could’ve rematched cotto at 147 and he didn’t.
Those are all former world champions Floyd fought. Ghost was his mando. Should he have instead fought a cw against Margs or fought horn level guys.
Again why would he need to beat guys he thoroughly beat again. Had manny beaten any of them clearly, like he did Shane and Clottey , he wouldn’t have rematches with them, just like he didn’t rematch Shane or clottey.
When he lost or drew, manny was given the rematch, he didn’t grant it. You can’t keep giving him credit for losing. When Floyd won close he gave the other guy a rematch. When manny beat jmm he did rematch him, but that was to duck Floyd and he got ktfo as karma for that decision.
Floyd beating Manny is better than any win on Manny’s resume. Floyd beating 154 odh is better than a 155 odh. Cotto, which you said is manny’s best win, was at cw. Same 2 lbs as Floyd with Canelo.
Floyd ktfo of an undefeated hatton is better than beating a 1loss hatton. Floyd also beat Shane before manny.
Manny getting ktfo by torrecampo and jmm, and losing to and drawing with horn and other c level opponents , and losses to Bradley and morales is why his resume is inferior.
Pac rematched barrera so Pac did rematch people he beat convincingly. He didn't rematch clottey and ssm because Pac fights a lot and was kept busty beating barrera, Bradley and jmm more times than Floyd ever beat anyone. What's floyds excuse for not rematching again? To Pad out his resume with bertos, ortiz and guerreros whilst ducking thurman and rematches with nel o at full 154 and in.prime probably.
Pac s losses literally don't matter as for much of his career he wasnt finished article. When.losing to Torecampo he was weightbdrained and starving poor nutrition and no proper trainer. He was work in progress yet still achieved so much. He was a one arm fighter when.losing to morales yet his wins over 4 opponents jmm, morales, Bradley morales equals floyds entire worthwhile part of career.
You don't even need to.mentions Pac s wins over cotto, dlh, hatton, ssm etc
Enhances his win over pac? Horn fans don’t say it. Jmm fans don’t say it. Maybe jmm and horns fans have perspective a trait Floyd fans don’t have.
How insecure are Floyd fans..? They’d want you to believe they wanted pac to beat Thurman when we know full well they hoped Thurman would ko pac.
Because Floyd fans are not dumb they know pac is furthering distance between Floyd and pac
I wanted Pacquiao to win but I wasn’t sure he had it in him considering how he performed vs Horn. His face also looks old now and in boxing you can age overnight. Right now I think he can beat Spence and want to see that fight. I don’t think Pacquiao will affect Floyd’s legacy because nothing Pacquiao does right now changes anything. We already know the current crop of fighter# are not really that good.
Yes, 2 cherrypicks and reflects floyds entire resume. Floyd s only got about 8 to 10 wins on his resume worth talking about. Pac s 8 wins over jmm, bradley, morales, barrera covers that alone.
Conor reflects the fact that Floyd is a crossover star that can make fight like that like ali fighting inoki. Like ali this was a reward for a hard fought career beating the best.
Other guys can’t do that because they are not transcendent mainstream stars.
Floyd Mayweather fanboys are new age fans, they're casuals.
They don't talk about what transpired during a fight, when the fight took place, where it was held and/or if the fighter was past prime etc...
All they look at is the W-L record of a fighter, see if they have any L's and obsess over the 0.
Pure facts.
Floyd Mayweather fanboys are new age fans, they're casuals.
They don't talk about what transpired during a fight, when the fight took place, where it was held and/or if the fighter was past prime etc...
All they look at is the W-L record of a fighter, see if they have any L's and obsess over the 0.
Because there feelings are hurt. There Mouth dropped to the floor this last Saturday and instantly got on the forums to hate lol
Floyd’s last 2 opponents are mcgregor berto
He ducked ALOT
Yes, 2 cherrypicks and reflects floyds entire resume. Floyd s only got about 8 to 10 wins on his resume worth talking about. Pac s 8 wins over jmm, bradley, morales, barrera alone covers that.
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Yes, Pac lost to morales and Bradley first fight. Fighters greater than Floyd have lost so what's your point. Boxing fans who judge clouds historical standing know Floyd lost but don't downgrade Floyd for fights they think he lost. It's the cautiousness, trying to get things in favour to remain unbeaten, lack of double or triple wins over great opponents that hurt floyd amongst other things. 2 wins over nelo, jmm, pac, cotto is better for esume than take money and run 1 win over them. Not giving rematch to a prime nel o who people would favour to beat Floyd is a shortcoming to floyds resume.
Pac has 8 wins over 4 great fighters, fighters whom are better than just about flouds entire resume, clouds only got about 9 wins on entire resume worth talking about. A Pac win, cw nel o win and cheated scales jmm win won't make up for the gaping discrepancies in floyds resume.
Again why would he need to beat guys he thoroughly beat again. Had manny beaten any of them clearly, like he did Shane and Clottey , he wouldn’t have rematches with them, just like he didn’t rematch Shane or clottey.
When he lost or drew, manny was given the rematch, he didn’t grant it. You can’t keep giving him credit for losing. When Floyd won close he gave the other guy a rematch. When manny beat jmm he did rematch him, but that was to duck Floyd and he got ktfo as karma for that decision.
Floyd beating Manny is better than any win on Manny’s resume. Floyd beating 154 odh is better than a 155 odh. Cotto, which you said is manny’s best win, was at cw. Same 2 lbs as Floyd with Canelo.
Floyd ktfo of an undefeated hatton is better than beating a 1loss hatton. Floyd also beat Shane before manny.
Manny getting ktfo by torrecampo and jmm, and losing to and drawing with horn and other c level opponents , and losses to Bradley and morales is why his resume is inferior.
Enhances his win over pac? Horn fans don’t say it. Jmm fans don’t say it. Maybe jmm and horns fans have perspective a trait Floyd fans don’t have.
How insecure are Floyd fans..? They’d want you to believe they wanted pac to beat Thurman when we know full well they hoped Thurman would ko pac.
Because Floyd fans are not dumb they know pac is furthering distance between Floyd and pac
Horn doesnt have any fans.
Because there feelings are hurt. There Mouth dropped to the floor this last Saturday and instantly got on the forums to hate lol
Floyd’s last 2 opponents are mcgregor berto 😂
Personally I like Floyd. His money ambition and skill wise. But that’s really it. Floyd #1 in money and top #3 in pure skill . His later resume/selection + when he fought his opponents is bogus. He ducked ALOT
IPlease don't lie. He fought Morales and Bradley again because he lost the 1st fight against each. He fought JMM a 2nd and 3rd time because the 1st fight was a draw and fought JMM a 4th time rather than take the $40 mil, no PPV offer from Floyd.
No Floyd wouldn't need 12 times. We know he didn't with JMM. He is much too big for Barrera so we know he wouldn't need 2 fights. You don't think Tim beat Manny so I doubt you think he'd have beaten Floyd. Best case you can make is Morales bested floyd in sparring so he may have upset in shape Floyd and maybe they would go 3.
Don't forget the KO loss to JMM.
A win over Manny is better than 2 wins over Barrera. Canelo wasn't but Manny was #2 p4p when Floyd beat him. JMM was also #2 when Floyd beat him in the comeback.
Yes, Pac lost to morales and Bradley first fight. Fighters greater than Floyd have lost so what's your point. Boxing fans who judge clouds historical standing know Floyd lost but don't downgrade Floyd for fights they think he lost. It's the cautiousness, trying to get things in favour to remain unbeaten, lack of double or triple wins over great opponents that hurt floyd amongst other things. 2 wins over nelo, jmm, pac, cotto is better for esume than take money and run 1 win over them. Not giving rematch to a prime nel o who people would favour to beat Floyd is a shortcoming to floyds resume.
Pac has 8 wins over 4 great fighters, fighters whom are better than just about flouds entire resume, clouds only got about 9 wins on entire resume worth talking about. A Pac win, cw nel o win and cheated scales jmm win won't make up for the gaping discrepancies in floyds resume.
I remember when pacquiao was talking about rematch with cotto, floyd fans said pac would just destroy him again he is damage goods.
Then floyd signs to fight cotto and all of a sudden he was fresh again.
This isn't true Hecatri come on. Don't take something 1 poster might have posted and apply it to all floyd fans.
Because haters like you claim Manny was washed vs Floyd.
I remember when pacquiao was talking about rematch with cotto, floyd fans said pac would just destroy him again he is damage goods.
Then floyd signs to fight cotto and all of a sudden he was fresh again.
Your such a Floyd fanboy wouldn't need 12 times to beat them convincingly.? Pac didn't have to fight them 12 times. He wanted to be a great fighter historically giving fans what they want. Floyd wouldn't know about that. Pac s 8 wins equals the worthwhile part offloyds entire resume
Yes, history will give Pac credit for 2 razor close decision wins and credit for scorecard error also. It's better than one cheated scales, bloating up 2 divisions win. You.might not give credit but your praise don't mean much. A nel o win don't compare to 2 wins over barrera what are you smoking, I'll have some of that? Was nel o p fp no1 or 2?
Please don't lie. He fought Morales and Bradley again because he lost the 1st fight against each. He fought JMM a 2nd and 3rd time because the 1st fight was a draw and fought JMM a 4th time rather than take the $40 mil, no PPV offer from Floyd.
No Floyd wouldn't need 12 times. We know he didn't with JMM. He is much too big for Barrera so we know he wouldn't need 2 fights. You don't think Tim beat Manny so I doubt you think he'd have beaten Floyd. Best case you can make is Morales bested floyd in sparring so he may have upset in shape Floyd and maybe they would go 3.
Don't forget the KO loss to JMM.
A win over Manny is better than 2 wins over Barrera. Canelo wasn't but Manny was #2 p4p when Floyd beat him. JMM was also #2 when Floyd beat him in the comeback.
Floyd wouldn't need 12 fights against all of them because he'd win all by KO or by such a wide UD that a rematch would be unnecessary. If he was lucky in your opinion ok, long as you admit he won those fights.
Stop giving him credit for losing and failing to beat JMM after being up 10-6 in round 1. That is why he fought Bradley, Morales and JMM again.
Manny hasn't fought anyone as good as Floyd's top 2 wins-Canelo or Manny. Floyd's career is ahead of Manny's so in that sense they don't compare. IMO Manny is the consensus #2 of Floyd's era so I think it's fair to comapre their resumes.
You brought up those guys, not me. Then you edited the post because Ortiz and Baldomir were world champions when floyd fought them.
What a f@g you are!
Your such a Floyd fanboy wouldn't need 12 times to beat them convincingly.? Pac didn't have to fight them 12 times. He wanted to be a great fighter historically giving fans what they want. Floyd wouldn't know about that. Pac s 8 wins over, jmm, bradley,morales, barrera equals the worthwhile part of floyds entire resume. Nobody needs to brings Pac additional wins over cotto, hatto, dlh, thurman into play
Yes, history will give Pac credit for 2 razor close decision wins and credit for scorecard error also. It's better than one cheated scales, bloating up 2 divisions win. You.might not give credit but your praise don't mean much. A nel o win don't compare to 2 wins over barrera what are you smoking, I'll have some of that? Was nel o p fp no1 or 2?
Floyd wouldn't have 12 fights with jmm, morales, Bradley and barrera and leave being unbeaten. He was lucky against Castillo and maidana and Pac to be unbeaten.
Pac has fought these guys 12 times. Only about 15 opponents in floyds resume are worth talking about and you won't find 12 opponents on the level of the quartet. So I'll say it again, floyds career don't compare. So stop with the Pac wasted time comments fighting diaz, and horn you cheeky little monkey
Floyd wouldn't need 12 fights against all of them because he'd win all by KO or by such a wide UD that a rematch would be unnecessary. If he was lucky in your opinion ok, long as you admit he won those fights.
Stop giving him credit for losing and failing to beat JMM after being up 10-6 in round 1. That is why he fought Bradley, Morales and JMM again.
Manny hasn't fought anyone as good as Floyd's top 2 wins-Canelo or Manny. Floyd's career is ahead of Manny's so in that sense they don't compare. IMO Manny is the consensus #2 of Floyd's era so I think it's fair to comapre their resumes.
You brought up those guys, not me. Then you edited the post because Ortiz and Baldomir were world champions when floyd fought them.
What a f@g you are!
The 1st 41 fights of Manny's career are against unknown people. The 1st 17 fights of Floyd's career are against unknowns.
Floyd has wins over arguably the 3 most popular non HWT boxers other than himself in the last 30 years-ODH, Manny, Canelo and a win over Cotto, the most popular Puerto Rican fighter other than Tito.
Floyd's resume has gotten him ranked the best of his generation in multiple polls of different writers and historians. In fact it is the strength of his resume that makes him such an ATG because a fighter as great as Manny fought some similar names but couldn't win all the fights.
Floyd wouldn't have 12 fights with jmm, morales, Bradley and barrera and leave being unbeaten. He was lucky against Castillo and maidana and Pac to be unbeaten.
Pac has fought these guys 12 times. Only about 15 opponents in floyds resume are worth talking about and you won't find 12 opponents on the level of the quartet. Pac has 8 wins over these guys and only about 8 or 9 Floyd opponents are worth talking about. So I'll say it again, floyds career don't compare. So stop with the Pac wasted time comments fighting diaz, and horn you cheeky little chappy.
Only about 25 fighters on floyds resume are names your average boxing fans might know. Maybe half of those people are of any consequence and worth mentioning if we are generous. That's a poor output however you look at it. Pac s wins over 4 boxing greats is almost floyds whole career. Out of these 4 Pac did the best easily, no contest.
You can't ignore that. That's why Pac s resume is too much for fkoyd
The 1st 41 fights of Manny's career are against unknown people. The 1st 17 fights of Floyd's career are against unknowns.
Floyd has wins over arguably the 3 most popular non HWT boxers other than himself in the last 30 years-ODH, Manny, Canelo and a win over Cotto, the most popular Puerto Rican fighter other than Tito.
Floyd's resume has gotten him ranked the best of his generation in multiple polls of different writers and historians. In fact it is the strength of his resume that makes him such an ATG because a fighter as great as Manny fought some similar names but couldn't win all the fights.
Now you are adding Bradley. That makes his official record 8-3-1. I had Manny beating Bradley the 1st fight even though judges had him losing. I had JMM beating him the 3rd fight. IMO his record should be 7-4-1 but we go with the official record.
Pac hasn't fought 35 killers. He fought bums and lost to them. You can't erase that or change it.
Floyd has an outstanding resume littered with HOF'ers, as does Manny. The difference is Floyd didn't lose to them while Manny did. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Only about 25 fighters on floyds resume are names your average boxing fans might know. Maybe half of those people are of any consequence and worth mentioning if we are generous. That's a poor output however you look at it. Pac s wins over 4 boxing greats is almost floyds whole career. Out of these 4 Pac did the best easily, no contest.
You can't ignore that. That's why Pac s resume is too much for fkoyd