I’m pretty sure Danny was holding the WBC strap when PAC/Bradley had their Trilogy l, add to it he was the man at 140 I think that should hold some weight and have him
Above Bradley at the time, you disagree cool
Bradley 32-33 clearly Had 1 Foot out the door and even if
Rated higher I doubt in 2016 many would have favoured Bradley over Thurman / Porter/Brook / Spence /Garcia. 4/5 of the fighters listed are natural WW who have a size advantage over Bradley , He never faced a natural WW in his career you really think that wasn’t by choice. If you think That version of Bradley & 4 or 5 other decent names hold more weight then Beating Garcia / Porter I don’t know what to say
To me that’s what matters Quality over Quantity. Thurman’s 2 wins and when he beat them are far better then the list of PAC foes even added up
I don’t know you may feel that beating 4 lower class fighters and 1 Good fighter trump beating 2 prime Top Tier Fighters / I don’t but that just me
Who did Garcia win that WBC title from? Washed up Robert f'n Guerrero who looked like utter crap against Aaron Martinez the fight prior.
I just commented on you saying Pacquiao didn't beat any top 5 WW during that stretch and I said he did. By your own standards, DSG wasn't a top 5 WW when Thurman beat him either. Why? Because to me in 2017, Thurman/Brook/Spence/Porter/Pacquiao were all superior to him.
Counting Garcia as a top 5 WW win and not Bradley as one, when he was actually top 10 P4P, is questionable.
But whatever, we can agree to disagree.
What? Please tell me who Garcia beat at that time at WW?
You said Spence? That has to be a joke. At the time Pacquiao fought Bradley, Spence's best win was Chris Van Heerden.
What are we even doing right now? Bradley was absolutely a top 5 WW when Pacquiao beat him.
I’m pretty sure Danny was holding the WBC strap when PAC/Bradley had their Trilogy l, add to it he was the man at 140 I think that should hold some weight and have him
Above Bradley at the time, you disagree cool
Bradley 32-33 clearly Had 1 Foot out the door and even if
Rated higher I doubt in 2016 many would have favoured Bradley over Thurman / Porter/Brook / Spence /Garcia. 4/5 of the fighters listed are natural WW who have a size advantage over Bradley , He never faced a natural WW in his career you really think that wasn’t by choice. If you think That version of Bradley & 4 or 5 other decent names hold more weight then Beating Garcia / Porter I don’t know what to say
You didn’t know that Pac and Bradley were WWs #2 and #3 when they fought in 2016? That’s when Pac became the Lineal champ after winning.
You seem to be more on just quality of opponents, I understand. But I just feel that quantity also compensates. Plus Pac’s opposition aren’t really bad. As you just said earlier post, they were descent opposition. Resumes can also be a numbers game.
To me that’s what matters Quality over Quantity. Thurman’s 2 wins and when he beat them are far better then the list of PAC foes even added up
I don’t know you may feel that beating 4 lower class fighters and 1 Good fighter trump beating 2 prime Top Tier Fighters / I don’t but that just me
I’m a Bradley fan but
Bradley wasn’t top5 in 2016-2017
In those years he beat Vargas and Rios . No one had Bradley ranked above Thurman / Spence / Brook / Manny / Garcia /Porter /
Beating high quality Opponets holds more weight then beating a bunch of lower quality Opponets
Since fighting PAC , 2 retired right after and neither of the other 3 have a high quality win since. Horns best name is 104 year old Mundine / Vargas has Dulhorme.
Porter has beat Garcia and Ugas both high quality wins
Garcia has beat Rios better Name then A decrepit Mundine and Dulhorme and the Porter fight could have went either way
Thurman beating Porter / Garcia in their Primes trumps the 5 names on Pacs CV
You didn’t know that Pac and Bradley were WWs #2 and #3 when they fought in 2016? That’s when Pac became the Lineal champ after winning.
You seem to be more on just quality of opponents, I understand. But I just feel that quantity also compensates. Plus Pac’s opposition aren’t really bad. As you just said earlier post, they were descent opposition. Resumes can also be a numbers game.
I’m a Bradley fan but
Bradley wasn’t top5 in 2016-2017
In those years he beat Vargas and Rios . No one had Bradley ranked above Thurman / Spence / Brook / Manny / Garcia /Porter /
Beating high quality Opponets holds more weight then beating a bunch of lower quality Opponets
Since fighting PAC , 2 retired right after and neither of the other 3 have a high quality win since. Horns best name is 104 year old Mundine / Vargas has Dulhorme.
Porter has beat Garcia and Ugas both high quality wins
Garcia has beat Rios better Name then A decrepit Mundine and Dulhorme and the Porter fight could have went either way
Thurman beating Porter / Garcia in their Primes trumps the 5 names on Pacs CV
What? Please tell me who Garcia beat at that time at WW?
You said Spence? That has to be a joke. At the time Pacquiao fought Bradley, Spence's best win was Chris Van Heerden.
What are we even doing right now? Bradley was absolutely a top 5 WW when Pacquiao beat him.
If we base solely on quality, yes Thurman no doubt. But if we quantify it, Pac has more fights to add up. Pac also has the Bradley win, a top 5 WW. That alone can be compared to either Garcia and Porter.
To me,
Garcia is slightly above Bradley because of Garcia's '0'
Porter over Horn
Broner equivalent to Josesito
but then, there are still
Vargas - a top 10 WW, arguably top 5 when Pac fought him
Matthysse - yes he's shot but still a good addition for anybody's resume nonetheless
If we quantify them along with quality, I think they're pretty even.
Pacquiao beat Bradley who was a top 5 WW.
I’m a Bradley fan but
Bradley wasn’t top5 in 2016-2017
In those years he beat Vargas and Rios . No one had Bradley ranked above Thurman / Spence / Brook / Manny / Garcia /Porter /
Beating high quality Opponets holds more weight then beating a bunch of lower quality Opponets
Since fighting PAC , 2 retired right after and neither of the other 3 have a high quality win since. Horns best name is 104 year old Mundine / Vargas has Dulhorme.
Porter has beat Garcia and Ugas both high quality wins
Garcia has beat Rios better Name then A decrepit Mundine and Dulhorme and the Porter fight could have went either way
Thurman beating Porter / Garcia in their Primes trumps the 5 names on Pacs CV
The proper word would be IF Thurman beats Manny. Thurman is the betting underdog not the favorite.
Meh, the true odds reflected him being the favorite as that is what it opened as but majority of the bets have come Pacquiao's way making him the slight favorite.
Not too uncommon for Pacman fights. Look at the odds that opened up for Mayweather vs Pacquiao and then see what they were the day of the fight.
It’s Thurman hands down
Thurman: Beat Porter & Garcia when they were both top 5 / Prime & he took Danny’s 0
PAC - No one from 2016 onwards was a top 5 WW. Decent collection of names that’s all
Pacquiao beat Bradley who was a top 5 WW.
It’s Thurman hands down
Thurman: Beat Porter & Garcia when they were both top 5 / Prime & he took Danny’s 0
PAC - No one from 2016 onwards was a top 5 WW. Decent collection of names that’s all
If we base solely on quality, yes Thurman no doubt. But if we quantify it, Pac has more fights to add up. Pac also has the Bradley win, a top 5 WW. That alone can be compared to either Garcia and Porter.
To me,
Garcia is slightly above Bradley because of Garcia's '0'
Porter over Horn
Broner equivalent to Josesito
but then, there are still
Vargas - a top 10 WW, arguably top 5 when Pac fought him
Matthysse - yes he's shot but still a good addition for anybody's resume nonetheless
If we quantify them along with quality, I think they're pretty even.
It’s Thurman hands down
Thurman: Beat Porter & Garcia when they were both top 5 / Prime & he took Danny’s 0
PAC - No one from 2016 onwards was a top 5 WW. Decent collection of names that’s all
I guess it depends how highly you rate Tim Bradley
Idk I kinda rate the undefeated D. Garcia slightly higher maybe but I definitely rate the undefeated Bradley higher