Porter has been looking progressively more drained

I agree that Porter's physique looks a little different now than it looked 5 years ago when he fought Malignaggi for example. A little less mass, but I haven't seen any decline in stamina or punch resistance yet so I can't tell you if he's drained or not. Porter needs to use the jab and fight a hard offensive fight. Spence needs to get the respect early and fight a smart fight and finish strong later. It will probably go the distance as both have good chins (Porter maybe a little better) and no 1 punch KO power at that level. The ability to close the show and steal rounds in the last 30 seconds of every round us fundamental in a fight like this.

After seeing Porter’s lackluster performance agaisnt Ugas, I think he is going to have a long night against Spence. Porter has to make this ugly (which is his style anyway) to make this fight competitive. Commit to the body and be a human windmill. Porter is a nice guy. Hes not much of a boxer. He’s tough and game. Ur right he needs to use his head and be ugly. I don’t know if the judges will like it though. I didn’t like Spence’s feet against Brook especially early, but they looked great against Mikey. Spence should win but who looks good versus porter?

The fact that Spence was able to eat everything from Brook and still keep coming at him, eventually breaking his face and finishing him, it a perfect example of why he's a better bully. Porter was not able to do that to Brook, though he tried and tried. If you disagree, that's fine. it wasn't the same Brook, but my money would be with Spence, even thou I like Porter more.

Didn't Porter used to fight at a higher weight in the amateurs?

I used to think that Porter had an advantage to Spence if he can maintain control of a clinch cause of how Porter gets off full power KO shots in close on the ropes, but after how Spence beat Garcia, I’m not so sure. I’d pick Bud to beat Spence if they fought soon. Spence is a bad mfr, but he’s less versatile than Bud and less slippery, which to me means more power punches landed for the more versatile fighter (especially since experience is also in buds favor) with the versatility comes a larger selection and expertise with all the power punches from both stances, that adds confidence to a boxer. I think Bud can keep his lead foot outside Spence’s more than vice versa

Porter won't make it past 12 then for sure if that's the case.

After seeing Porter’s lackluster performance agaisnt Ugas, I think he is going to have a long night against Spence. Porter has to make this ugly (which is his style anyway) to make this fight competitive. Commit to the body and be a human windmill.

lol at aj in ur sig... "grey pu pon?" :rofl: The dude was so damn confused. It's like he's looking for help and trying to hide his fear at the same time. He made a lot of child like faces.

Spence Jr is more nice, skill-wise.

if you didn't pick up on it, that's ok. It definitely wasn't what you inferred from my post though. lol at aj in ur sig... "grey pu pon?"

Spence should beat Shawn easily.i have Spence beating Shawn to a pulp by KO and bud Crawford beating Spence by decision.and bud and Spence beating Manny and Thurman to a pulp

Winning a fight = better bully? We have different definitions of a bully then. Spence did better vs brook because he knows how to fight out of a clinch and not smother his work like porter who was especially bad with at that stage. My definition of a bully though does not include being pushed around whenever the other guys chooses to push you around. If you didn't pick up on it, that's OK. It definitely wasn't what you inferred from my post though.

The fact that Spence was able to eat everything from Brook and still keep coming at him, eventually breaking his face and finishing him, it a perfect example of why he's a better bully. Porter was not able to do that to Brook, though he tried and tried. Winning a fight = better bully? We have different definitions of a bully then. Spence did better vs brook because he knows how to fight out of a clinch and not smother his work like porter who was especially bad with at that stage. My definition of a bully though does not include being pushed around whenever the other guys chooses to push you around.

Spence isn’t a better bully, if he was brook wouldn’t have had him reeling all around the ring. Spence is a better technician and more precise with his punches but has a major weakness in that he doesn’t like to fight when the other guy is fighting. The reason I can’t pick porter is because all his attributes have taken a hit and he fades worse than ever now. The fact that Spence was able to eat everything from Brook and still keep coming at him, eventually breaking his face and finishing him, it a perfect example of why he's a better bully. Porter was not able to do that to Brook, though he tried and tried. If you disagree, that's fine.

I think a lot of us predicted years ago that Porter's style would not age well. Brawlers usually don't. As far as beating Spence, I don't see it. The only thing Shawn can do is bully but Spence is a better bully, PLUS he can box. I don't see a single thing Porter does better than Spence. Spence isn’t a better bully, if he was brook wouldn’t have had him reeling all around the ring. Spence is a better technician and more precise with his punches but has a major weakness in that he doesn’t like to fight when the other guy is fighting. The reason I can’t pick porter is because all his attributes have taken a hit and he fades worse than ever now.

I think a lot of us predicted years ago that Porter's style would not age well. Brawlers usually don't. As far as beating Spence, I don't see it. The only thing Shawn can do is bully but Spence is a better bully, PLUS he can box. I don't see a single thing Porter does better than Spence.