Come over here. You guys were slamming GGG hard. Moost of you are some hardcore Canelo groupies. I like Canelo so I hate GGG. Same ****** who loved Manny and hated Floyd, or loved Floyd and had to hate Manny.
Funny how life works, now its Canelo who will probably fight Munguia. Keep the same energy now. Want to see you sh#t on Canelo.
No way he was going to fight Kov. He couldnt even fight Jacobs without a rehydration clause. You thought he was going to jump 2 divisions and fight Kov?
Before trying to call me a GGG groupie, he is overrated and been overrated. He is good but just not great. Since that fight in Monte Carlo Isaw alot of flaws in him. Canelo will and has a better career than him. So no point on attacking me.
Lets all sh#t on Canelo now the same way we were GGG.
Lets go
no I didn't **** on golovkin for it...cause I didn't even care enough to do that...golovkins career has done enough of that itself
rolls...vanes...dom wade...Curtis stevens...blah blah...just a bunch of garbage.....when he stepped up he couldn't even beat anyone convincingly....he was supposed to end canelos career instead canelo is worth 300 mil......the excuse makers are the ones running around boxing boards swearing he beat canelo twice lol
Why mention Rolls and Vanes and Wade...tune up...late replacement...and mandatory btw...and not Canelo (2) Jacobs Murray Monroe Geale Macklin Ouma etc...I mean all fighters have lighter touches on their resume...no one is saying those guys you mentioned are the best on his resume...but when those are like your 8th 13th 14th and 15th best wins...and you dominated and KOed those guys. .that's really good imo
history has shown us that the guys golovkin has "ko'd" actually do suck
Curtis stevens was beaten by marcos primera and jesse Brinkley
kell brook was a WW and that was circus.....literally everyone on golovkins resume stinks with the exception of Jacobs and canelo and he couldn't knock them out
im just being honest...I don't hate on the other guys like usyk, loma and even kovalev...because I respect them on some level
this guy literally had andre ward looking to fight him at 168 when ward became available...he didn't even pretend to consider it....he ran as fast as he could to fight brook and dom wade that year when ward was making it known he wanted to fight him...and this was when ward was considered featherfisted and rusty.....
golovkin is NO ATG....not at all....ATGS don't beg for a certain style of fight and then get their tail whipped by a smaller guy like he did vs canelo the 2nd time....you are nuts if you think he "clearly" won that 2nd fight.....
steve friggin rolls...and vanes...in between canelo....this friggin guy has no desire to fight anyone with a pulse while hes trying to get a whiff of canelos underwear....its because he fears getting beaten
he could have fought lara years ago when lara would have been the best name on his resume...he never even considered it even though lara was publically wanting it.....then his people had to come out with "he doesn't bring any money or fans to the table so why would we consider it"....I mean....seriously?
Yeah man I just don't really see the over the top critique on GGG and his resume personally...if he was going wire to wire with Stevens and Brook and those guys...or even winning those fights less impressively...I would agree he was overhyped.
But when you step in there with a lot of good fighters of all different styles...Murray Monroe Stevens Geale Macklin Lemieux to name a few...I count about 15..and hardly lose a round and win all by KO...I mean I just think that's really impressive.
I don't really subscribe to the notion of calling a guy a bum just because he got KOd...I feel the same way whether it is Wilder KOing someone like Ortiz or GGG KOing one of the guys on his list...not to mention a lot of what GGG did...no other guy did that to that opponent...Ishida is no HOFer...and probably GGG'S 15th best win or so...but he had just gone 12 rounds with Paul Williams and Pirog...GGG KOs him in 3...I just see a lot of stuff like that with Ggg's resume and I find that impressive personally.
Most ATGs that go through a list of good fighters like GGG did end up having a loss or two to a Boogie Watts and Willie Monroe and Iran Barkley ya know...so yeah I just think clearly beating and KOing about 15 good fighters all basically in their prime...and never having an off night..is impressive stuff and very rare.
Fought on the road/neutral site his whole career and never had to get a favorable decision etc...I like guys who get KOs because it it clear who won...I think most fights in general are pretty clear who wins...but when it goes 12 rounds a lot of times guys can see what they want to see and make a case their guy won.
I just like how decisive GGG has been in his fights and find it rare...I personally think the diminishing of his resume is because he has been so decisive so the only way to really take a shot at him is to try and go that route...and I just don't really see the criticism stacking up well when I put it next to other fighters...a lot of them have close favorable calls against good fighters...or losses in those fights.
About the 'ducking' claims...I guess there is that version..GGG'S version and then whatever the truth is ya know...I never saw anything egregious or obvious from him...I think Lara would have fought him but it wasn't really a big or in demand fight...and they both had similar money options outside of that fight...so yeah I just don't think that fight would have made much traction...would have liked to see it though...Lara is one of my favorites.
With Ward...I just don't really see how that fight would ever be negotiated...Ward was the B side at that point but I think he still wanted to control all the negotiations etc...too bad that fight wouldn't have brought in more money...probably would have been made in that case...GGG going to fight at 168 vs Froch in the UK was a similarly difficult fight for GGG that he wanted
...and if Froch wanted it it probably would have happened...because GGG knew his role as the b side and because that fight was a bigger money fight for him...my 2 cents
So yeah I guess we all have our way of looking at things lol...happy 4th
Thats alot of excuse in 1 post. Were you sh#tting on GGG for the Munguia fight rumor? I bet you were. The fouble standard and groupie level is funny.
no I didn't **** on golovkin for it...cause I didn't even care enough to do that...golovkins career has done enough of that itself
rolls...vanes...dom wade...Curtis stevens...blah blah...just a bunch of garbage.....when he stepped up he couldn't even beat anyone convincingly....he was supposed to end canelos career instead canelo is worth 300 mil......the excuse makers are the ones running around boxing boards swearing he beat canelo twice lol
Lol I like you Curt, I really do...but honestly it is posts like this one that make me glad GGG is chasing the money now, if that is indeed what he is doing...he's had a great dominant career at MW...great amateur and pro.
Pretty clearly an ATG at MW and maybe the GOAT...nothing to really hate on if one just evaluates his film/record/resume...yet some people just try and give him less than even bare minimum credit lol. It's odd honestly.
Just seems like some people have a bit of an agenda with GGG and aren't really honest with what the record shows my friend...if he stopped Andrade, almost all the people who hate on GGG would say Andrade sucked.
If GGG outboxed him 8-4 (as he did to Jacobs and Canelo twice)...people would say GGG sucks and he lost the fight lol...what's the point in trying to please those who will never be pleased ya know...glad he is finally getting some money, he deserves it.
As a boxing fan I would like to see him in with the other top guys at and around 168, if he has anything left...but it's basically already proven that if you don't like GGG - if he KOs someone - they suck. If he goes 12 rounds - he lost lol...so honestly listening to those types try to evaluate GGG and his career/options.
I mean he shouldn't really be listening to those guys ya know...they don't really want to see a good fight...they just want a chance to see any vulnerability in GGG so they can hate on him some more...and if there is any type of a chance for them to say GGG lost...trust me they will...they've done it 3 times now lol, despite him outlanding Jacobs and Canelo in almost every round and having 3 straightforward wins there...
Oh well agree to disagree I suppose...hope you're doing well.
history has shown us that the guys golovkin has "ko'd" actually do suck
Curtis stevens was beaten by marcos primera and jesse Brinkley
kell brook was a WW and that was circus.....literally everyone on golovkins resume stinks with the exception of Jacobs and canelo and he couldn't knock them out
im just being honest...I don't hate on the other guys like usyk, loma and even kovalev...because I respect them on some level
this guy literally had andre ward looking to fight him at 168 when ward became available...he didn't even pretend to consider it....he ran as fast as he could to fight brook and dom wade that year when ward was making it known he wanted to fight him...and this was when ward was considered featherfisted and rusty.....
golovkin is NO ATG....not at all....ATGS don't beg for a certain style of fight and then get their tail whipped by a smaller guy like he did vs canelo the 2nd time....you are nuts if you think he "clearly" won that 2nd fight.....
steve friggin rolls...and vanes...in between canelo....this friggin guy has no desire to fight anyone with a pulse while hes trying to get a whiff of canelos underwear....its because he fears getting beaten
he could have fought lara years ago when lara would have been the best name on his resume...he never even considered it even though lara was publically wanting it.....then his people had to come out with "he doesn't bring any money or fans to the table so why would we consider it"....I mean....seriously?
canelo has his groupies but there are also a lot of mayweather fans that just support him because floyd beat him. so, since canelo defeated GGG, is as floyd also did it. they are that stupid.
people don't need to slam "nelo" because nelo is like 8 years lil g's junior and has a better resume.....they aren't apples to apples....only by division
canelo has accomplished more already......its the same when people say "why don't u give canelo grief for not fighting Andrade if you are gonna give lil g grief"
but canelo aint 37 and on the downside...he still has time to fight Andrade.....lil g is the one whos career leaves a lot to be be desired and is considering on the downside.....and we still don't have a lot of tape on him against top level guys.....that's why him fighting Andrade is now or never....with canelo its not...that fight could happen a year or two from now and still be good
but hes too busy playing it safe, like he always has, and chasing canelo and the payday....again....and for no good reason...he wont do better no matter what he thinks or says...or who he hires for a trainer
Worst excuse yet, you’re a joke
people don't need to slam "nelo" because nelo is like 8 years lil g's junior and has a better resume.....they aren't apples to apples....only by division
canelo has accomplished more already......its the same when people say "why don't u give canelo grief for not fighting Andrade if you are gonna give lil g grief"
but canelo aint 37 and on the downside...he still has time to fight Andrade.....lil g is the one whos career leaves a lot to be be desired and is considering on the downside.....and we still don't have a lot of tape on him against top level guys.....that's why him fighting Andrade is now or never....with canelo its not...that fight could happen a year or two from now and still be good
but hes too busy playing it safe, like he always has, and chasing canelo and the payday....again....and for no good reason...he wont do better no matter what he thinks or says...or who he hires for a trainer
Lol I like you Curt, I really do...but honestly it is posts like this one that make me glad GGG is chasing the money now, if that is indeed what he is doing...he's had a great dominant career at MW...great amateur and pro.
Pretty clearly an ATG at MW and maybe the GOAT...nothing to really hate on if one just evaluates his film/record/resume...yet some people just try and give him less than even bare minimum credit lol. It's odd honestly.
Just seems like some people have a bit of an agenda with GGG and aren't really honest with what the record shows my friend...if he stopped Andrade, almost all the people who hate on GGG would say Andrade sucked.
If GGG outboxed him 8-4 (as he did to Jacobs and Canelo twice)...people would say GGG sucks and he lost the fight lol...what's the point in trying to please those who will never be pleased ya know...glad he is finally getting some money, he deserves it.
As a boxing fan I would like to see him in with the other top guys at and around 168, if he has anything left...but it's basically already proven that if you don't like GGG - if he KOs someone - they suck. If he goes 12 rounds - he lost lol...so honestly listening to those types try to evaluate GGG and his career/options.
I mean he shouldn't really be listening to those guys ya know...they don't really want to see a good fight...they just want a chance to see any vulnerability in GGG so they can hate on him some more...and if there is any type of a chance for them to say GGG lost...trust me they will...they've done it 3 times now lol, despite him outlanding Jacobs and Canelo in almost every round and having 3 straightforward wins there...
Oh well agree to disagree I suppose...hope you're doing well.
**** that. I said Mungia-GGG is a fun fight. Feel the same way about Mungia-Canelo.
Mungia got completely exposed in his last fight (and lost). Now is the perfect time for the kid to cash in... he doesn't even have to put his title on the line.
Munguia>>>> Rolls.
Why you broke Kahtarzan bums ain’t giving shyt to Triple She.
Canelo vs. Munguia is an excellent fight. Better than phuckin Rolls.
Ahahaha.......listen to this shill job, lolol.
people don't need to slam "nelo" because nelo is like 8 years lil g's junior and has a better resume.....they aren't apples to apples....only by division
canelo has accomplished more already......its the same when people say "why don't u give canelo grief for not fighting Andrade if you are gonna give lil g grief"
but canelo aint 37 and on the downside...he still has time to fight Andrade.....lil g is the one whos career leaves a lot to be be desired and is considering on the downside.....and we still don't have a lot of tape on him against top level guys.....that's why him fighting Andrade is now or never....with canelo its not...that fight could happen a year or two from now and still be good
but hes too busy playing it safe, like he always has, and chasing canelo and the payday....again....and for no good reason...he wont do better no matter what he thinks or says...or who he hires for a trainer
Thats alot of excuse in 1 post. Were you sh#tting on GGG for the Munguia fight rumor? I bet you were. The fouble standard and groupie level is funny.
Munguia>>>> Rolls.
Why you broke Kahtarzan bums ain’t giving shyt to Triple She.
Canelo vs. Munguia is an excellent fight. Better than phuckin Rolls.
You're full of **** and you know it.
people don't need to slam "nelo" because nelo is like 8 years lil g's junior and has a better resume.....they aren't apples to apples....only by division
canelo has accomplished more already......its the same when people say "why don't u give canelo grief for not fighting Andrade if you are gonna give lil g grief"
but canelo aint 37 and on the downside...he still has time to fight Andrade.....lil g is the one whos career leaves a lot to be be desired and is considering on the downside.....and we still don't have a lot of tape on him against top level guys.....that's why him fighting Andrade is now or never....with canelo its not...that fight could happen a year or two from now and still be good
but hes too busy playing it safe, like he always has, and chasing canelo and the payday....again....and for no good reason...he wont do better no matter what he thinks or says...or who he hires for a trainer
Come over here. You guys were slamming GGG hard. Moost of you are some hardcore Canelo groupies. I like Canelo so I hate GGG. Same ****** who loved Manny and hated Floyd, or loved Floyd and had to hate Manny.
Funny how life works, now its Canelo who will probably fight Munguia. Keep the same energy now. Want to see you sh#t on Canelo.
No way he was going to fight Kov. He couldnt even fight Jacobs without a rehydration clause. You thought he was going to jump 2 divisions and fight Kov?
Before trying to call me a GGG groupie, he is overrated and been overrated. He is good but just not great. Since that fight in Monte Carlo Isaw alot of flaws in him. Canelo will and has a better career than him. So no point on attacking me.
Lets all sh#t on Canelo now the same way we were GGG.
Lets go
Here is the link to a forum from the potential GGG-Munguia matchup. Yeah, G was not treated with kindness..
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19875031#post19875031