Andy Ruiz jr was supposed to be a soft touch

He's a top fighter, check all the ratings. People want to use them pre-Joshua win but not now, why? Because it doesn't suit their agenda. :lol1: Ruiz win was a lucky one that bolted straight to No. 1 because of just one win. I do not consider Ruiz to consistently beat the top 3...not even Joshua in the rematch. Also, when looking at the Ruiz match, we have to consider his rating PRIOR to the match not afterwards. Do you think when Buster Douglas beat Tyson, he suddenly became better than Holyfied and Bowe and Lewis or even Tyson himself? or do you consider that just an upset. Do you think Rahman was the No. 1 guy to beat or do you consider his win over Lewis just a puncher's chance? Can anyone who beat Rahman or Douglas claim to be the best fighter of the 90s era? That is not how it works. I will definitely start considering Ruiz a legitimate No. 1 if he is able to stay there after 3-4 fights. At this point, no.

Andy Ruiz is a top 2 fighter and unified champion. Never forget that. When Joshua wins the rematch it will be a top, top win. When Joshua announced the fight, Ruiz wasn't even a top 10 guy. And Ruiz had never beaten a top 10 contender prior to the Joshua fight. If Ruiz can do it, that doesn't give a good impression of Joshua. And how "top" is Ruiz will be known once he fights another top 5 guy like Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, or even Whyte. He already lost to Parker.

Never forget that Andy Ruiz was supposed to be a easy showcase fight that went terribly wrong he was no killer he wasn't ranked in top 10 by ring, ESPN or TBRB or anyone really Just a fat guy that was supposed to be knocked out in a spectacular fashion to introduce AJ to America Also Tyrone WBCfan is a pussy #FACTS Completely agree. Ruiz was meant to be a low risk replacement, this notion that he was high calibre opposition is nonsense.

I said before the fight that Ruiz was more skilled than Joshua (and took some flak). I wish I had backed up my words with some cash but I thought Joshua might just be too strong for him.

I got the impression Ruiz was brought on board to help Stubhub sell the tickets they were struggling to move, the added prescience of a Mexican will ultimately have been a huge factor in Hearn’s choice for selling the empty seats.

Just like Salido. All these Euro hypejobs getting exposed by fat Mexican journeyman :greddy2:

AJ picked Miller like the best available fight for the USA, not a bad matchup but Miller's ability were still unknown. Hence what happened they looked for the best available opposition IMO. The went to Ortiz, Whyte and they got Ruiz to sign. AJ might have been the favorite but boxing hardcore fans knew that Ruiz would had been tough. Not too many people picked Ruiz to win in the fashion that he did. I said it multiple times that AJ would win a decision but would not be surprised if he got stunned a few times by Ruiz.

and wilder still ducked him never forget that

When was the last time a top heavyweight picked someone they considered a rival? I can only think of Fury taking Wilder. ****, we don't even get live mandatories, never mind voluntaries. I think everyone knew that AJ and Hearn had picked someone who was dangerous, but obviously they expected AJ to beat him otherwise he wouldn't have been on the card. Wilder expected to beat Ortiz and a wrecked Fury too and both nearly went very wrong. They're all cherry picks. Not on the Tom Schwarz level, but still picked to lose. When it comes to a genuinely live fight, they stall.

Ruiz always had skills but yes, he was brought in to lose in spectacular fashion to Joshua. Truth be told, Joshua was the soft touch all along lol. Exactly this. Nobody is saying Ruiz was a bum but this was a showcase fight for Joshua’s USA debut. He was brought in to be just credible enough but get steamrolled by AJ. Hearn and co. can backtrack now and said they knew what they were getting, but that’s bollocks. They picked a guy who’s best result was a close fight with Parker and nothing else of note. I still wonder how AJ v Parker might’ve gone if the ref actually let Parker near him. AJ seemed very tentative and scared to engage with Parker anyway, so imagine if the ref actually let Parker work. Not saying Parker would or wouldn’t have won, but the guy got cheated out of any chance of winning that fight.

Ruiz always had skills but yes, he was brought in to lose in spectacular fashion to Joshua. Truth be told, Joshua was the soft touch all along lol.

Never forget that Andy Ruiz was supposed to be a easy showcase fight that went terribly wrong he was no killer he wasn't ranked in top 10 by ring, ESPN or TBRB or anyone really Just a fat guy that was supposed to be knocked out in a spectacular fashion to introduce AJ to America Also Tyrone WBCfan is a pussy #FACTS That's because you know jack about boxing... A killer? NO. A very good fighter? Yes. That was true before the fight, and now as well...to a trained eye

When I saw Fat flabby Andy Ruiz Vs Tor Hammer, And Tor quit on his stool . I knew he'd a beast!

I see, I did not know that.