Crawford and Spence need to fight first each other BEFORE they face Pacquiao/Thurman

Since Pac-Spence is off here's a new idea: Pacquiao's too old and has been inactive for 2 years, so the best thing for him if he beats Ugas is to fight Floyd again in a rematch or get an easy, gimme fight like the winner of Brook vs Khan and then retire. Spence fights Thurman while Crawford fights Porter, then the winners fight each other.

If Manny whooped Spence, they will say Crawford is #1 not Spence. Better let Spence and Crawford fight and Manny fight the winner as his retirement fight. Manny can then prove at 45 years old that he is really the GOAT.

Damn... we were so close to having a Spence showdown with Pac. Now that Spence is out maybe it really is time for Spence to face Crawford before another freak injury occurs. Maybe after Spence recovers we can FINALLY see Spence and Crawford duke it out, and then the winner faces the winner of Pac/Ugas. Spence already ducked Crawford immediately after the Danny fight. Instead of making it happen, he shoo Crawford away. Dafuq was that? Then he sabotaged the Pac fight by self-inflicting an injury. He know he ain't ready. Everyone knew it. We all seen the sparring where he was getting smoked by a fake mimic manny. He also looked weak af and struggling with weight. Dude looks deads. Haymon saved him.

Damn... we were so close to having a Spence showdown with Pac. Now that Spence is out maybe it really is time for Spence to face Crawford before another freak injury occurs. Maybe after Spence recovers we can FINALLY see Spence and Crawford duke it out, and then the winner faces the winner of Pac/Ugas. It's incredible that we STILL haven't gotten the supposed "best" WWs to face each other yet. And yet here we are. :confused:

I still stand by what I've said. I would rather have Crawford and Spence fight in the near future, and then winner faces Pac.

Thats exactly why it hasnt happened. WW is stacked with talent like you said. Tyson vs Spinks didn't happen til they were the only 2 reallllllly left at the top. Same with Tito vs Oscar. Same with Manny vs Floyd. This is often the story. We just had a big WW fight youre nuts. Thurman vs Manny was a big fight. You can say Errol vs Mikey was too but I can understand people disagreeing since that fight was so sh^t with Mikey's not showing up so I won't argue that. Spence-Mikey was a silly fight, Mikey was a lightweight. Manny I'll give you that one, it was decent but Manny is so damn old, he has to retire. I'm mostly talking about the young guns, they're rarely mixing it up, they're all looking for the easy way out with little to no risk. The mentality of the young guys is that if they take an L, the big fights + paydays won't come.

It's crazy to believe that Crawford's best win so far in his resume also got stopped by a male stripper :lol1:

Too many cats LOVE to say this sh^t. What is the proof Errol or Bud are scared to lose more than anyone else is. Losing sucks no doubt about that, but I believe Bud & Errol think so highly of themselves & their talent that they dont believe anyone can take their 0 anyway. From what Bob is saying this week it sounds like this fight is gonna happen in mid 2020. I was leaning more towards late 2020, 2021 myself awhile back so its not far off from what I was thinking. Because the fight should of happened already (Crawford-Spence). WW is stacked with talent but these guys are not fighting each other. The last big WW fight we got was 2 years ago - Thurman vs Garcia and that took a while to materialize.

Prime Manny wouldn't fight them without a CW lol, right now he wont get away with a CW that gig is up and they both destroy him, Manny has a long history of fighting name B graders or A graders coming of bad fights or bad loses. When has Manny fought unbeaten Elite fighters that are in their best form and a lot bigger than him, boy you got some lessons to learn, Manny looks for advantages those two present none for him they have all the advantages ands why Manny will not fight them. Thurman is a perfect example, elite big name with a Belt, 2 yrs out after surgery and a very poor comeback fight opened the door, its the way Manny has always worked, from Hatton to Cotto Oscar Margarito Mosley, all from bad loses and some also with draining CWs as a bonus. He will not fight Spence or Crawford unless they look bad or struggle in their next fight. Floyd is famous for padding out resume and fighting boxers who were never any good in first place ie berto, ortiz, guerrerro, baldomir, Corley coming off loss to cab judah, or coming off devastating losses, cott o and pac, or cw nelo. Floyd is king. He's got multiple ways to get advantages to keep zero. So many asterisks flouds career

Lmao! You 🤡 PAC is 40 effen years old that’s the only reason there would be concern in him fighting particular people. In his prime? HE KNOCKS ERROL SPENCE THE FUG OUT! YA WANNA GO NIGHT NIGHT!! No tantrums its a forum youre getting all squeaky ass and neck veins are a popping. I know Manny is 40 thats one of the reasons he shouldn't fight them I already said that, they are too much now he would get beat up bad ! Manny in his prime would not fight them without a CW or bad showing, this is what he did with Cotto Hatton Oscar Mosley Margarito Rios Thurman and others, Hollywood couldnt create Mannys career any better than the way it went, it is what it is , great fighter just the same .

How do you know their elite if they haven’t beaten anybody elite? I get that argument....But lets be real alot of the elite boxers that are p4p don't have a great signature win. But we all know they elite. Based off of "How" they looked in their wins. Thurman and Garcia hell even Porter have better resumes at 147.. But everyone knows they aint the top 147lbers. Why? Cuz they aint as consistent and has looked vulnerable vs lesser comp. While Spence/Crawford dominate and outclass their opponents Go to any gym, go around any boxing coach, any pro fighter, ex- fighter, promoter, hell even MMA fans, hell even the female boxing reporters all the way down to the fcking ring card girls.... All know who the two best 147lbers are. It is it what it is.

How do you know their elite if they haven’t beaten anybody elite? Like I said you got a lot to learn, do you really think all these fighters and trainers including Mannys own that are openly stating they dont want Manny in with them dont know what they looking at, your a newbie fan with a hero youre easily led by the basics in your face, beyond name value youre lost to the art of boxing, you cant grade them thats why you can only love them or hate them. its all good plenty of fans are like you, same law of nature that makes sheep follow sheep.

Yep not fear like, but fighters are very aware of the dangers, Manny is an atg veteran he knows he dont want Crawford or Spence, not if he wants to fight on, he would take some real punishment in those fights and he is over 40, Im sure Manny doesnt want to be dribbling in his lap 20yrs after boxing. Feels so gud talking to a non-fanboy fan of Manny. Lol. They think we just hating but we being realistic. Manny (40) fades during half of the fight which mite work vs Certain good fighters but not the Elite guys like Spence Crawford. Reason why the completely backed out of those call-outs

ERR! Sorry folks, mama’s wrong again! Manny in his prime annihilates Spence and Crawford, on the same night, same time. Now? Good 50/50 chances. Prime Manny wouldn't fight them without a CW lol, right now he wont get away with a CW that gig is up and they both destroy him, Manny has a long history of fighting name B graders or A graders coming of bad fights or bad loses. When has Manny fought unbeaten Elite fighters that are in their best form and a lot bigger than him, boy you got some lessons to learn, Manny looks for advantages those two present none for him they have all the advantages ands why Manny will not fight them. Thurman is a perfect example, elite big name with a Belt, 2 yrs out after surgery and a very poor comeback fight opened the door, its the way Manny has always worked, from Hatton to Cotto Oscar Margarito Mosley, all from bad loses and some also with draining CWs as a bonus. He will not fight Spence or Crawford unless they look bad or struggle in their next fight.

The reason why we need Spence and Crawford to fight each other first is because we want to see the best face each other ASAP while Pac is still in the game before he considers retiring soon. It would makes sense to have Pac face the winner of Crawford/Spence because it would have an even bigger impact on both sides. The winner of Crawford/Spence beating Pac would be a fitting passing of the torch. If Pac were to actually beat the winner of Crawford/Spence then that would become an even bigger win and further elevate his ATG status. Pac has already done so much already, not sure why he has to go through the trouble of still having to face either or if those 2 haven’t even fought each other yet when they’re supposed to be “the best WWs”. It's infuriating that PACs supposed to pick them off one by one? Beat Thurman, then Spence then Crawford.? It's diabolical they want 41 year old to do it. We know the standards on PAC are higher than anyone but this takes the biscuit, the last brownie

I aint say Manny was scared of nobody...Its team Manny that wasnt confident in taking those fights. Yep not fear like, but fighters are very aware of the dangers, Manny is an atg veteran he knows he dont want Crawford or Spence, not if he wants to fight on, he would take some real punishment in those fights and he is over 40, Im sure Manny doesnt want to be dribbling in his lap 20yrs after boxing.

Bob Arum confessed that he didn't make the fight happen :lol1: Crawford even back then felt like he wasn't ready and even urged Manny to go down at 140 :lol1: This was all pre-Horn Reminds me of the post-Marquez KO years when they all feel like they could KO Manny only to be whooped :lol1: I aint say Manny was scared of nobody...Its team Manny that wasnt confident in taking those fights.

Lol you should be done with this website, you know nothing of boxing. Lmao Sit yo ass down...u just joined a week ago unless u a ALT POS

As much as I like Crawford he needs to start stepping up the competition soon and I think that he should face Spence ASAP, and then the winner fights the winner of Pacquiao/Thurman. What do you guys think? Exactly. Some Floyd diehards say Pac should fight spence, then crawfird. *smh* I know Pac s goat, but he is 41, give him some leeway and slack. Let spence and crawford find out who's best then Pac can fight winner.

Here we go again,I don't know what some of you don't get about this,it doesn't matter what makes since to the hardcore fans, business wise it makes sense to make the in-house fights first,nobody wants to split money with other networks until they have too,and more importantly nobody wants to deal with arum unless the pot is big,or there's no other options