How much credit will AJ deserve if he wins the rematch?

Ruiz is better than people thought now he beat josh, rather than Josh lost as Josh isn't very good. So if Josh beats ruiz, he is beating a very good opponent who was previously underated. If you don't think Josh should be given credit maybe Josh shouldn't waste time fighting ruiz. But that's not the case as people think it's a great win for josh if he wins. You don't want Josh fighting bums like Charles martin The question is how much credit? The thread title should not have implied he deserved none.

The casuals put money in those casinos. They don’t know much about boxing. If it was the casuals who bet it down so be it. Sometimes camp reports can as well. My point still being, the casinos figured AJ was such a big favorite to win when the fight was made, that they were only willing to pay $1.00 after the customer put up $20.00. Perhaps a lot of money came in on Ruiz from casuals or even seasoned boxing fans who saw a good deal at 20-1. Fight night the odds were closer to 10-1. Do you know why the odds came down? The only thing I know for sure is the casinos didn't like Ruiz' chances at all when the fight was first made.

Ruiz is better than people thought now he beat josh, rather than Josh lost as Josh isn't very good. So if Josh beats ruiz, he is beating a very good opponent who was previously underated. If you don't think Josh should be given credit maybe Josh shouldn't waste time fighting ruiz. But that's not the case as people think it's a great win for josh if he wins. You don't want Josh fighting bums like Charles martin

I will give him props, taking the rematch after that KO loss. But he needs to win by KO too. a split decision, just proves he is not there yet.

I would give him a decent amomut if credit for overcoming Ruiz to get back on track but i wouldnt give him a huge amount because he was suppost to do it first time around.

When JOsh lost he got discredited. So when he wins its only fair he gets credited. So you want to discredit him when he loses and wins? Sure he will get credit, but just don't say hes the best of era if he beats Ruiz. He will be back in the running to fight WIlder and fury. Back to square one. If Josh don't fight WIlder id like Ruiz to maybe

The casinos WANTED money on Ruiz. It worked. The casinos lost. That means the casinos gave Ruiz little chance. The casuals put money in those casinos. They don’t know much about boxing.

Do you know how betting works? Or how the odds are worked out? It’s casuals who place netting that help get the odds out. So casuals would look at Ruiz and look at Joshua and then proceed to put all their monies on Joshua. The casinos WANTED money on Ruiz. It worked. The casinos lost. That means the casinos gave Ruiz little chance.

Only people who don't know boxing? Is that why odds makers ( you know, the pros) had AJ anywhere from 20-1 to 11-1? There's no way around the fact that AJ was supposed to blast out Ruiz. Everybody from pros to casuals believed that. The majority anyway. How much credit did LL get for avenging his losses to Mccall and Hasim? Not a lot if I remember correctly. Do you know how betting works? Or how the odds are worked out? It’s casuals who place netting that help get the odds out. So casuals would look at Ruiz and look at Joshua and then proceed to put all their monies on Joshua.

Win or lose the rematch... I would still want to see AJ vs Wilder... AJ vs Fury... somewhere down the road. If Ruiz loses... I would want to see Ruiz vs Ortiz, or Ruiz vs Miller, or even the rematch with Parker.

He gets Credit...however things don't get any easier after that That is why I keep Expressing that they have to let him get right mentally. His Promoting running around saying "He Is Happy He Lost" "He Feels Relieved That He Lost" well I hope that is not true for AJ Sake! Fury, Wilder are even more difficult fights for him and you have Usyk who right now should be feeling VERY VERY CONFIDENT vs AJ Style. These Heavyweight Fighters Sizes won't be a issue for Usyk after all because besides Fury most of them lack skills and can be out-boxed I been posting for awhile that "I Love Usyk Chances Vs AJ" because he is the slowest and the stiffest of them all. I really believe that now! Lets see how he looks at Heavyweight vs Takam first though. Usyk is the backup plan, if AJ doesn't beat Ruiz in the rematch, Usyk is in position just in case.

- -Floyd Patterson got credit galore from reversing Ingo's bingo and so on and so forth. The era's are so completely different now it's not fair to compare the two. AJ fans need to now become Ruiz fans and hope he wins more big fights. Personally I think Ruiz is decent or a step better than decent. I also think that what he does do well just happens to also be AJ's kryptonite. What he does well could be anybody's kryptonite though. Let me just say I'm looking as forward to him fighting other top HW now as I am to the rematch. I still think Wilder will put both Ruiz and AJ to sleep.

If Joshua wins the rematch, then he would have achieved an amazing feat; Because there are not too many fighters in the history of boxing have comeback to regain their titles in an immediate rematch after a knockout loss. Therefore, he would get full credit.

I've been thinking about Lennox a lot in relation to this situation cuz he basically got upset twice by KO in brutal fashion & avenged both L's by KO which isn't something you see a whole lot let alone twice by a guy. Respect to Lennox's impressive KO upset reversing ability. The closest situation to Joshua's current situation was the Rahman L. He got blasted out in 5 & then 7 months later blasted Rahman in 4. The McCall II fight took 2.5yrs to setup. After the McCall fight they had to work on somethings. Lennox was putting too much effort into that right hand. He had the God given ability to learn and employ it. He can be the example why you just don't discount a fighter if he looses. Too many fan boys here give up to quickly or say that the fighter got exposed. This is boxing, theater of the unknown.

not sure how much credit he'll get from fans for beating a guy who he was supposed to beat in the first place...but he deserves credit for immediately going back in with a guy who just soundly defeated him, especially considering he was hurt and ko'd. one thing he has going for him mentally is that he was winning, dropped ruiz and got clipped being over aggressive going for the kill. he'll probably question why he was unable recover, but will believe he can stay out of that type of situation in the rematch.

At boliodogs I just have a feeling that the rematch will reveal how easy it should have been the first time.an Ruiz will be looked at as a fraud.

Ruiz was an 11 to 1 dog. And Joshua should get a fair amount to a great amount of credit if he wins depending how it all goes down obviously. The guy who gets KO'd in a relatively one sided fight overwhelmingly loses the rematch & usually early then they got KO'd or lost the first time. See my mfer Dogboe & Machado in recents months. So Joshua reversing the L isn't something that happens THAT much so he'll deserve some credit. - -Floyd Patterson got credit galore from reversing Ingo's bingo and so on and so forth.

Let's not beat around the bush her we all know why Joshua didn't bring it okay.it was T.U.E.

I’ll be impressed. I’m a degenerate gambler.. I don’t think josshua sees the 7th round.

I’ll give him credit. Ruiz is the far superior boxer with better hand speed and a much better chin. Joshua will have to learn a new style to beat him so that would deserve some credit.