casual fans need to learn how to score a fight.....

to prevent users from continually embarrassing themselves, I am creating this educational thread to teach new (and old, lol) posters how to score a professional boxing match let the lesson begin... 1.) the groundwork: before we can arm you with the knowledge that you will need to survive in the cutthroat world of professional judging, we need to ensure that any incorrect perceptions are thoroughly removed from your mindset strictly perform the following steps in order..... * strip naked * stand in front of a mirror * hit yourself on the chin with the very best uppercut you can throw * repeat the last step until exhausted, or until you can no longer see 2.) the cleansing: * stand in front of a mirror * repeat the following sentence 1000x, standing on 1 foot " landed punches are NOT official scoring criteria in a professional boxing match " * repeat that sentence 1000x more, standing on the other foot 3.) building the foundation: you are now ready to receive valuable information that will enable you to discuss boxing with your peers without looking like a total fukwit... a boxing match is judged using the following criteria, NOTHING else... * clean hard punching * effective aggression * ring generalship * defence 4.) the lesson: watch the following video repeatedly... if it takes 1000x, then so be it..... do NOT stop watching that video until you either..... 1) feel sick, because you realize how stupid you are..... 2) hate boxing more than anything else in the world..... either is fine 5.) the summary: talking rubbish about something you know nothing about, cannot be viewed as anything other than childish ret4rdation you guys who ran around criticizing the opinions of professional judges, professional fighters, and boxing insiders..... but then immediately proved that you know nothing about boxing..... are truly special I hope you feel as stupid as you look

Comments (20)

aboutfkntime

Boxing1013, kafkod, and TonyGE..... attempting to remove 3 of the 4 official scoring criteria..... was not your best work guys LMAO even most dumbass casual-fans are like..... wtf ? :D truly truly hilarious https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DQJmZYLM5-ZPRv9Q9-ojLRUgnVA=/0x76:1087x687/1600x900/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/61416485/Capture.0.png

6y ago

aboutfkntime

Well you fell for it. I knew if I waited long enough I'd catch a sucker. So for all your BS about Compubox you looked that up long ago because you have been carping about the punch output for quite a while. wait, so..... that was a trap..... ? you, pretending to be a typical boxrec-using casual-fan moron for YEARS..... was just a trap to lure me in..... ? and..... Golovkin did not miss 1000+ PUNCHES (LMAO), because..... boxrec is inaccurate, as it does not use the official criteria to judge a scoring punch..... ? is... that... what... you... are... saying... Tony... Baloney... ? https://media1.tenor.com/images/9e53ff33f154adff6e374d6c17e27017/tenor.gif?itemid=11041836 http://media.tumblr.com/ccef6e641636790216bd434a0c177fc2/tumblr_inline_n75krwRWEZ1qjsg0u.gif

6y ago

aboutfkntime

Ello mate ;0 - Honestly my friend I was just trying to inform you of how judges score fights...it happens to line up with my worldview as well, and I personally am surprised that some boxing fans are scoring anything other than landed punches and their effectiveness. The other stuff certainly matters, as Weisfeld below points out...but it is not actively scored...those things just help a fighter get in his position to score points, by landing punches: "A lot of times fans hear that judges focus on four categories: clean punches, effective aggressiveness, defense and ring generalship," Weisfeld said. "But based upon my own experience, my conversations with other judges and seminars conducted by top judges, judges really focus on one category, and that's clean punches. Clean punches: To me, clean punches are the most important aspect, and the other factors are really tied to that. Take the phrase, "effective aggressiveness." How is a boxer effective? He's effective by landing clean punches. How about "defense?" A boxer shows great defense by not getting hit with clean punches. And, finally, the term "ring generalship." A boxer uses the ring to put himself in a position to land clean punches." I've posted that for you a number of times, not sure why you are keeping with the same arguments my friend. Lol this...100 times sir...main problem in boxing scoring is corrupt judging...95% of fights have 1 clear winner...for anyone to suggest otherwise, I mean I don't get it... Steve Weisfeld says..... https://media3.giphy.com/media/33bpFN25l6qNW/giphy.gif https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DQJmZYLM5-ZPRv9Q9-ojLRUgnVA=/0x76:1087x687/1600x900/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/61416485/Capture.0.png

6y ago

kafkod

lol true. I forgot about that rare species, the black Brit. Lennox, AJ, Dillian Whyte, Eubank, Brook, even probably Frank Bruno, all automatically rubbish, and not really "black" good call.. LOL Lennox is ok, because he works for PBC. The others are Eurobum coons. :lol1:.

6y ago

NachoMan

It looks judges are following a policy that a fighter who gets knocked down automatically loses the round, and gets a point deducted for the KD. Yeah, it seems so.

6y ago

kafkod

No, I haven't. As you say, pretty much everyone believes that a single KD in a round confers two points. I hear it all the time from commentators that a single KD automatically equals a 10-8 round, but that is not supported by the scoring rules. It looks judges are following the policy that a fighter who gets knocked down automatically loses the round, and gets a point deducted for the KD. Something needs to be done about the way fights are being scored nowadays. Applying the rules around KDs properly and allowing for even rounds when necessary would be a good way to start.

6y ago

Boxing_1013

Got a friend who's a well respected child psychologist, and we talk about stuff, y'know, specially cos I got kids and that. She tells me that all the current research points to attention being vitally important for a childs development and that a lack of attention being given to a child can be at least as harmful as more active forms of abuse such as shouting or physical violence... that in fact children will learn to behave in ways that elicit such negative attention in preference to no attention at all. At first I thought you had the wrong thread...then I read it again lol...great post and perspectives Koba

6y ago

NachoMan

I agree with that 100% Most judges, commentators and pundits nowadays will automatically award the round to the fighter who scores a KD, and deduct a point from the opponent. I can't remember the last time I saw a 10 - 9 round after a KD. Have you seen that happen recently? No, I haven't. As you say, pretty much everyone believes that a single KD in a round confers two points. I hear it all the time from commentators that a single KD automatically equals a 10-8 round, but that is not supported by the scoring rules.

6y ago

Citizen_Koba

6y ago

kafkod

Sorry man. I went off on the wrong guy. I apologize. No worries!

6y ago

kafkod

Pretty good video. I'm glad the sample scoring included an even round. It seems like a small minority of fight fans acknowledge that these things actually exist. Too often fans force themselves to score a 10-9 round when the round was truly even; as though it was somehow weak, indecisive or wishy-washy to not be able to discern a winner for each and every round. This perception, IMO, is the number one reason why fight cards end up being so controversial. Most competitive fights have one or more genuinely even rounds, but they almost never get scored that way. I agree with that 100% thought the video was straight-forward and well-done, but I do take minor issue with the way it sort of perpetuates the myth that the first KD in a round is somehow worth a 2 point deduction instead of 1. The author implies that a KD must necessarily confer the round (and therefore an automatic 10-8 round), but that's not true at all. There are many cases when fighter A completely dominates a round except for a KD. Sometime this could be a very insignificant flash knockdown, yet the author would apparently score this a 10-8 for Fighter B. This is not how it works. All KDs are worth the same 1-point deduction. Before deducting points for KDs and fouls, the scorer must determine who won the round - apart from the KD's and fouls. I think its very difficult for people to separate a KD from the rest of the round, but the rules don't allow for extra subjective credit for KDs beyond the 1 point deduction. Most judges, commentators and pundits nowadays will automatically award the round to the fighter who scores a KD, and deduct a point from the opponent. I can't remember the last time I saw a 10 - 9 round after a KD. Have you seen that happen recently?

6y ago

TonyGe

I think you got me confused with somebody else! Sorry man. I went off on the wrong guy. I apologize.

6y ago

kafkod

I did precisely what you just did. I used Compubox to reinforce what I was saying all along that Gennady landed more punches in the majority of the rounds than Canelo did. Unlike you I see nothing wrong with it. That makes you the biggest fanboy hypocrite on the forum. I think you got me confused with somebody else!

6y ago

NachoMan

Pretty good video. I'm glad the sample scoring included an even round. It seems like a small minority of fight fans acknowledge that these things actually exist. Too often fans force themselves to score a 10-9 round when the round was truly even; as though it was somehow weak, indecisive or wishy-washy to not be able to discern a winner for each and every round. This perception, IMO, is the number one reason why fight cards end up being so controversial. Most competitive fights have one or more genuinely even rounds, but they almost never get scored that way. I thought the video was straight-forward and well-done, but I do take minor issue with the way it sort of perpetuates the myth that the first KD in a round is somehow worth a 2 point deduction instead of 1. The author implies that a KD must necessarily confer the round (and therefore an automatic 10-8 round), but that's not true at all. There are many cases when fighter A completely dominates a round except for a KD. Sometime this could be a very insignificant flash knockdown, yet the author would apparently score this a 10-8 for Fighter B. This is not how it works. All KDs are worth the same 1-point deduction. Before deducting points for KDs and fouls, the scorer must determine who won the round - apart from the KD's and fouls. I think its very difficult for people to separate a KD from the rest of the round, but the rules don't allow for extra subjective credit for KDs beyond the 1 point deduction.

6y ago

TonyGe

He often does that with Compubox. When the stats don't fit his agenda, Compubox is for casual fanboy muppets. When they do fit his agenda, Compubox is the truth! I did precisely what you just did. I used Compubox to reinforce what I was saying all along that Gennady landed more punches in the majority of the rounds than Canelo did. Unlike you I see nothing wrong with it. That makes you the biggest fanboy hypocrite on the forum.

6y ago

kafkod

Well you fell for it. I knew if I waited long enough I'd catch a sucker. So for all your BS about Compubox you looked that up long ago because you have been carping about the punch output for quite a while. He often does that with Compubox. When the stats don't fit his agenda, Compubox is for casual fanboy muppets. When they do fit his agenda, Compubox is the truth!

6y ago

TonyGe

https://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/canelo-golovkin-compubox-punch-stats_1.jpg https://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/canelo-golovkin-compubox-punch-stats.jpg Tony Baloney..... you insisted that defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression..... were not a scoring factor, unless the number of clean punches landed by each fighter are exactly the same YOU said that, you excuse-making muppet !! https://media3.giphy.com/media/33bpFN25l6qNW/giphy.gif here, check the instruction video..... the instruction video for absolute casual-fans who know little/nothing about the sport..... No I said if the judge has difficulty deciding who won the round then use the guidelines. Two guys could land the the same amount of punches and one boxer ends up barely making it back to his corner. You are the guy that responded to a post giving the scenario that one fighter lands twice the amount of clean punches on his opponent. You responded thst he loses the round if the other fighter shows better defense. Which is totally preposterous. Like I said you are so invested in winning this arguement you have given up common sense.

6y ago

TonyGe

https://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/canelo-golovkin-compubox-punch-stats_1.jpg https://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/canelo-golovkin-compubox-punch-stats.jpg Tony Baloney..... you insisted that defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression..... were not a scoring factor, unless the number of clean punches landed by each fighter are exactly the same YOU said that, you excuse-making muppet !! https://media3.giphy.com/media/33bpFN25l6qNW/giphy.gif here, check the instruction video..... the instruction video for absolute casual-fans who know little/nothing about the sport..... Well you fell for it. I knew if I waited long enough I'd catch a sucker. So for all your BS about Compubox you looked that up long ago because you have been carping about the punch output for quite a while.

6y ago

Boxing_1013

you just attempted to remove defence, effective aggression, ring generalship..... from the official list of scoring criteria what a total fkn doorknob :lol1::lol1: Ello mate ;0 - Honestly my friend I was just trying to inform you of how judges score fights...it happens to line up with my worldview as well, and I personally am surprised that some boxing fans are scoring anything other than landed punches and their effectiveness. The other stuff certainly matters, as Weisfeld below points out...but it is not actively scored...those things just help a fighter get in his position to score points, by landing punches: "A lot of times fans hear that judges focus on four categories: clean punches, effective aggressiveness, defense and ring generalship," Weisfeld said. "But based upon my own experience, my conversations with other judges and seminars conducted by top judges, judges really focus on one category, and that's clean punches. Clean punches: To me, clean punches are the most important aspect, and the other factors are really tied to that. Take the phrase, "effective aggressiveness." How is a boxer effective? He's effective by landing clean punches. How about "defense?" A boxer shows great defense by not getting hit with clean punches. And, finally, the term "ring generalship." A boxer uses the ring to put himself in a position to land clean punches." I've posted that for you a number of times, not sure why you are keeping with the same arguments my friend. If you think Judges can't be corrupt its about damnfuvkntime you stop being naive. :lol1: Lol this...100 times sir...main problem in boxing scoring is corrupt judging...95% of fights have 1 clear winner...for anyone to suggest otherwise, I mean I don't get it...

6y ago

Spoon23

If you think Judges can't be corrupt its about damnfuvkntime you stop being naive. :lol1:

6y ago