Pac vs JMM 1 was a robbery

- -Now you talkin BALCO Juan 3 and 4? Shame BALCO Juan ducked the 5th fight, but hey, ho, 1 outta 4 ain't shabby for a guy training on his piss before memo got him full of BALCO. Never could figure out why BALCO Juan ducked the immediate rematch of the first fight to fly to indonesia to give up his title to Chris John for 25k when Arum offered him 700k for the rematch? Guess that's why he got kicked outta accounting and had to go into boxing. No matter, manny made him 5x the rest of his career earnings, so it's all good! Stop drinking

Pac should have been 3-1 vs jmm. well pac's always been robbed in the us soil even he dominated the fight like pac-bradley 1.

ktfo6 ... Has nothing to do with the OP. Are you 12?

Marquez won the third fight too - -Now you talkin BALCO Juan 3 and 4? Shame BALCO Juan ducked the 5th fight, but hey, ho, 1 outta 4 ain't shabby for a guy training on his piss before memo got him full of BALCO. Never could figure out why BALCO Juan ducked the immediate rematch of the first fight to fly to indonesia to give up his title to Chris John for 25k when Arum offered him 700k for the rematch? Guess that's why he got kicked outta accounting and had to go into boxing. No matter, manny made him 5x the rest of his career earnings, so it's all good!

Marquez won the third fight too

can posters stop crying robbery when their favorite fighter gets outboxed or loses?? damn

Wow awesome comments, I thought JMM fell behind because of the kds but I think he caught up to win by a point or 2. I’m satisfied it was a draw, fight could have went the other way for someone to get dropped not twice but 3 times. the only way for someone to come back and win that fight is to school his opponent for the rest of the fight or score the ko which wasnt the case. there was still a lot of close rounds so how the hell did marquez caught up and win by a point???

I had manny winning the first but it was close, JMM probably edging the 2nd or a draw. JMM got robbed in the 3rd and flattened Manny in the 4th.

imagine how that would have changed some careers definitely. most likely no rematch between the 2 and possibly no morales win since he used this fight as a blue print for pacquiao

marquez won 7 rounds, pacquiao 5, but final score was 113-112 pacquiao

Haven't watched this fight in while. Recently since i had time and never really watched it properly with scoring i sat down to watch it and wow this was a robbery. Manny starts out strong 10-6. From that moment i thought this was gonna be a schooling from here on cause im thinking about how many people saying JMM won this but as the fight went on this was nothing close to that. The middle rounds had some close rounds but Manny landed the harder shots and JMM was on his Salido mode all fight, so many low blows yet nothing said from the ref. I had Manny winning 1,2,6,7,8,9,10,12 w/3 kds The one judge gave JMM 115-110 lol one of the worst cards i seen and another only gave Pac a 10-7 in the 1st. JMM won ALL of their fights.

Ktfo6 ...

There should've been a 3 kd rule imagine how that would have changed some careers

Wow awesome comments, I thought JMM fell behind because of the kds but I think he caught up to win by a point or 2. I’m satisfied it was a draw, fight could have went the other way

If guy that didn't know the 10-6 thing was that inexperienced that he didn't know how to score a 3 knockdown round, how can you really trust his scorecard for the rest of the fight. if he didn't know he could score a round 10-6, you can't trust him to interpret the rest of the fight the right way, either.

It wasn't a robbery. It was a very close fight which could have gone either way. All in all a draw was a fair decision. I rewatched the fight quite recently and scored it 113-112 for Pacquiao, though a couple of rounds were very close and difficult to score thus making a different result perfectly feasible. Though I do agree with the sentiment that Pacquiao did better in this fight than people seem to remember. It was a great fight, tactical yet action packed and competitively fought throughout. People who think that Marquez put on a dominant masterclass after the first round are buying into a myth. Of the three fights between the pair which went to the judges, this is the one Pacquiao can most lay claim to having won. There should've been a 3 kd rule And rob us of one of the most memorable comebacks of all time and one of the best fights of the past twenty years? What kind of so-called boxing fan would even suggest something like that? The very fact that Marquez was able to find his way back into the fight and make it so close is proof that they were absolutely correct not to have the three knockdown rule in effect. It's an arbitrary rule which does not reflect how hurt a fighter is or whether or not they are able to continue. That should be (and thankfully was, in this case) left to the referee's discretion.

was there any drug testing for this fight?

The one judge definitely messed up by not scoring it 10-6 in the 1st round, which would've given Manny the win. but JMM won the fight form there on clearly.

Yep, one of the judges turned in an incorrect scorecard. If he hadn't of made that mistake it would of been an official win for Pacquiao.

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