Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz Jr Does 403,000 UK Buys

AJ a top 20 HW today Got worked over by a scrub. Ok so please share your top20 for us all. Would like to know because on your logic he’s fallen to rank 20 on basis of losing to ruiz? But on that basis he must also be ahead of Whyte , Povetkin, Takam, Parker, Brezeale , etc. So who are the 19 in front of him in your view ?

AJ a top 20 HW today Got worked over by a scrub.

It also happened on the same day as the Champions League final with two English teams. And most people were already drunk after the footy game and didn't bother to watch it. That's also a plausible reason. I didn't know that. That must have also played a factor.

They did run the main event early I think around 10 pm and stacked the card with Brits in showcase fights obviously it went horribly wrong for them The whole event felt like tailored for UK ppv

Did Fury/Wilder really do these numbers in the UK? Wilder vs Fury at 4am - 450,000 UK PPV buysJoshua vs Ruiz at 4am - 403,000 UK PPV buysMatchroom FC like to tell you Wilder and Fury are nobodies in their respective countries, though. Very interesting.— Mikey (@AnalyseBoxing) June 19, 2019 Aj fans right now: https://giphy.com/gifs/scared-shocked-jquDWJfPUMCiI

what was the time frame in the UK when they fought? if it was anything past 12 am think about it..... are they really gonna buy a ppv and stay up till like 3 or 4 am????? Main fight was 3am ish

what was the time frame in the UK when they fought? if it was anything past 12 am think about it..... are they really gonna buy a ppv and stay up till like 3 or 4 am?????

It's pretty simple. Fight on at an ungodly hour, against a replacement that casuals had never heard of, on the night of the Champions League Final (with two English teams). 400k is a big number in those circumstances.

Did Fury/Wilder really do these numbers in the UK? Wilder vs Fury at 4am - 450,000 UK PPV buysJoshua vs Ruiz at 4am - 403,000 UK PPV buysMatchroom FC like to tell you Wilder and Fury are nobodies in their respective countries, though. Very interesting.— Mikey (@AnalyseBoxing) June 19, 2019 I can’t remember seeing numbers but I know frank warren refused to allow any media to ask him questions about the numbers in interviews. I would therefore be surprised if they were that high. But if anything doing only marginally more for wilder vs fury compared to joshua vs Ruiz just goes to show the draw that AJ is! As proven by fury Schwarz doing 50k there is a huge gulf (currently) in following

Don't matter, made $20-25 Million in American and was playing with DAZN money:dunno: So that is just extra money for them back in the UK I guess. No profit lost for Hearn I'm sure since DAZN put the money. Only lost taken was by AJ in the ring Rematch will do great I'm sure!

You think a million people stayed up all night or got up early to watch & pay $30ish or w/e for a bs fight (that turned out to be not so bs)? I seriously doubt that. 400k at ~3am is f#cking bananas & probably a record for a awfully timed PPV. Great number bearing in mind Ruiz was not a marquee name. Might have been helped an all UK champions league football final in Spain (hr ahead) and finishing an hour before the undercard started which was a good one.

That can't be true, Warren did say Fury is a bigger PPV star in UK than Joshua. It might change now to be fair but I think it’s clear to say Whyte has probably been a bigger Ppv star in the uk recently than fury.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/deontay-wilder-dominic-breazeale-and-the-heavyweight-puzzle/hyjpretosnal1k4w8ccyzpv68 I for one think the illegal streaming impact isn't as relevant as people make it out to be. I believe an overwhelming majority of people who illegally stream wouldn't buy the fight if there were no illegal streams so its kinda a bs point that something is actually being stolen. Its a crime of opportunity not a crime of passion or need. And I think most people that buy fights will do so even with illegal streams out there cuz they are buying it for the security & quality of the official way to watch a fight vs some sketchy stream that might get shutdown just when the pizza comes & the main event is starting. Not to say I don't think it impacts overall numbers, but I don't think they impact numbers as much as some people speculate. I think its mainly & always has been about interest in a fight. And it just so happens that 3 of the 10 biggest fights (& the top two) in PPV history has happened in the last 6 years. Floyd (#1 PPV guy of all time) vs Manny (#2 PPV guy of all time) Floyd (#1 Boxing PPV guy of all time) vs Conor (#1 Combat Sports PPV guy of all time) Floyd (#1 PPV guy of all time) vs Canelo (#1 current PPV guy & #6 of all time) Its hardly a surprise these fights are all top ten fights when you take into account how much of a fanbase they all have. Casuals don't care about good fights, they care about good matchups & that largely lives & dies on popularity not necessarily just talent. You could throw Floyd vs Will Smith in the ring & its breaking all known PPV records. So its just quality matchups or things that actually excite fans happening = lotsa f#cking PPV buys. Whats your theory? This is what I posted on the prior page: I mentioned in my prior post, but PPVs have been breaking records post-streaming era. You would think the opposite but the more access people have to illegal streams, the bigger numbers the PPVs do. I think one reason for that could be tied to the social media era and the promotion fights get on social media. Damn near everyone is now either on social media or surfing the web, and fights get big promotions off that. That along with those that illegally stream were never going to buy it in the first place so they don't hurt as much as promoters make it out to seem.

Below 50k (uk only) That can't be true, Warren did say Fury is a bigger PPV star in UK than Joshua.

400k PPVs is a good number at 4am. I wanna know how much fat Fury did vs Schwarz, 600k maybe? Anybody knows? Below 50k (uk only)

400k PPVs is a good number at 4am. I wanna know how much fat Fury did vs Schwarz, 600k maybe? Anybody knows?

Joshua Ruiz does over 400k buys. (Uk only) Fury Schwarz does less than 50k buys. Anyone saying that AJ’s numbers are poor does need to get perspective * neither numbers are official but both have been widely talked about in different places so expected to be broadly correct

Since the number came from Fury, it's as real as Fury's claim that he gave his purse to charity. If it had been on Sky Sports Box Office, I would begrudgingly accept it. However, BT doesn't have that type of reach. And for a 5am fight on a weekend, on BT, I honestly doubt that figure. The Fury/Wilder PPVs were not only available to BT subscribers. Anybody could buy one from the BT website, same as anybody can buy a Sky Box Office PPV, so the 2 fights had exactly the same reach. And how do you know that Fury didn't give his purse to charity? Just because he didn't publicise it doesnt mean he didn't do it. I live near Fury and I know that he often visits patients in local hospitals without any publicity at all. You only hear about it via word of mouth.

I think they are still good numbers.

Yes sir! Here’s the full list of Pay TV figures: (only including Sky Sports and Primetime (excluding Ali v Henry) 21 May 1966: Muhammad Ali vs. Henry Cooper II – 40,000 16 March 1996: Frank Bruno vs. Mike Tyson II – 600,000 8 February 1997: Naseem Hamed vs. Tom Johnson – 650,000 28 June 1997: Evander Holyfield vs. Mike Tyson II – 550,000 13 March 1999: Evander Holyfield vs. Lennox Lewis – 400,000 29 January 2000: Mike Tyson vs. Julius Francis – 500,000 8 June 2002: Lennox Lewis vs. Mike Tyson – 750,000 8 December 2007: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Ricky Hatton – 1,150,000 18 July 2009: Amir Khan vs. Andreas Kotelnik – 100,000 7 November 2009: Nikolai Valuev vs. David Haye – 469,000 3 April 2010: David Haye vs. John Ruiz – 177,000 24 April 2010: Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler – 50,000 18 September 2010: Kell Brook vs. Michael Jennings – 15,000 13 November 2010: David Haye vs. Audley Harrison – 223,000 11 December 2010: Amir Khan vs. Marcos Maidana – 164,000 16 April 2011: Amir Khan vs. Paul McCloskey – 200,000 21 May 2011: George Groves vs. James DeGale – 43,000 2 July 2011: Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye – 1,143,000 25 May 2013: Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler II – 32,000 23 November 2013: Carl Froch vs. George Groves – 47,000 31 May 2014: Carl Froch vs. George Groves II – 355,000 30 May 2015: Kell Brook vs. Frankie Gavin – 139,000 2 May 2015: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao – 876,000 28 November 2015: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Tyson Fury – 545,000 12 December 2015: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte – 420,000 27 February 2016: Carl Frampton vs. Scott Quigg – 304,000 9 April 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Charles Martin – 500,000 25 June 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Dominic Breazeale – 512,000 10 September 2016: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook – 500,000 10 December 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Éric Molina – 450,000 4 March 2017: David Haye vs. Tony Bellew – 890,000 29 April 2017: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko – 1,532,000 27 May 2017: Kell Brook vs. Errol Spence Jr. – 275,000 26 August 2017: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor – 874,000 28 October 2017 – Anthony Joshua vs. Carlos Takam – 887,000 31 March 2018: Anthony Joshua vs. Joseph Parker – 1,457,000 5 May 2018: David Haye vs. Tony Bellew II – 775,000 28 July 2018: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker – 474,000 It is interesting to look at the number, and think back to that time leading up to the fight 'Just in general, going about your buisness'. I have always been interested to what the David Haye vs Tony Bellew fights did 'Now I know that they where hugely successful' but I knew that they where massive anyway. I think you can distinctly tell when a fight is going to do between 800,000-1,000000 +. I think Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz Junior II could achieve that sort of success.