Better defense: Canelo Alvarez or Tyson Fury?

I'm not going to jump on that because I assume you mean that he's become less aggressive, not that his actual ability declined, right? Yes, you are absolutely correct. In times past, we've witnessed Fury collapse the pocket, while throwing a lot of punches, by fighting on the inside and giving up his physical advantages in the process. However, nowadays he is doing the complete opposite. He is standing more erect, on the outside, circling the ring, sticking and moving while throwing more flurries and combination punches in the process.

Fury has never seen the class and ability of a Canelo or any other lighter weight real champion . The HW division ability wise is B grade, something happens to lower ability when they get so big that size is the number one asset, as far as boxing goes HW is the least technical division in boxing. You are pretty much 100% correct. I can remember when people where questioning James Toney on his move to heavyweight and he stated 'I have faced better fighters at middleweight to light heavyweight, he even stated that he was not bothered by the power' He alluded to having had faced better fighters technically and pound for pound physically at the lower weights, fighters that punched correctly and operated in a entirely different dimension when it comes to the sweet science. If Deontay Wilder was a Super Middle Weight, can you imagine that? How physics works, YES he would still be a hard puncher! But by no means would he be able to survive during the 90's at 160-168 pound 'In my opinion'. If Roy Jones Junior was 6 foot 6 and 240 pounds, they would have to ban him from boxing. That is why most of these super-heavyweights are useless, none of them are pound for pound great fighters in my opinion 'But I will still be backing Joshua to finish as the last man standing at the end of this era' Canelo's defense has been tested and proven more than Tyson Fury's, and also lets factor in that he is a fighter moving up facing bigger guys now. Tyson Fury constantly alludes to his size advantage over his opponents and mocks smaller fighters, Evander Holyfield would break all of his ribs 'And I honestly don't think he would make it into the changing rooms pre fight vs Mike Tyson'.

Fury has never seen the class and ability of a Canelo or any other lighter weight real champion . The HW division ability wise is B grade, something happens to lower ability when they get so big that size is the number one asset, as far as boxing goes HW is the least technical division in boxing.

In recent years we have witnessed a decline in his offensive ability ... I'm not going to jump on that because I assume you mean that he's become less aggressive, not that his actual ability declined, right? I think Canelo's technique is improving all around and it's a shame that it's even taking people this long to realize that he's a solid boxer. But, his cardio is still his weakest point, IMO. It's not terrible but it ain't great. In the 2nd Golovkin match he looked fatigued for most of the fight. He looked better against Jacobs but he wasn't really getting pressured at all there either.

Then I’d call that a strategy not “playing around” no one plays when you throw hands bro... I guess you have a difficult time with reading comprehension. I was agreeing with you.

Well as a fighter, Canelo Alvarez is the more complete and well rounded of the two. He has a very good defense and a very good offense as well. However, when it comes solely down to defense, then I will have to go with Tyson Fury; Because he is the more one dimensional of the two in that department. In recent years we have witnessed a decline in his offensive ability and in increase his defensive ability in order to protect his chin. As he doesn't like to get hit because he can't take a punch all that well. Now he is become more of a pure boxer who throws mostly pitty pat, slappy, arm punches. He very rarely settle down on his punches for power anymore.

^There's truth to that. Some boxers "play" because it's part of their psychological technique. Fans mistakenly think of this as him purposely being weak but that's rarely true. Like when Anderson Silva got caught and everyone was in denial, "He was just playing". No, he was fighting his fight and got KTFO. Fans can't go pretending it doesn't count. When you play weak to get a fighter to open up, it's a specific tactic and if you get dropped, it's not because you weren't trying. Then I’d call that a strategy not “playing around” no one plays when you throw hands bro...

I didn't reply to him because I figured he was trolling with such a B.S post . Guess he was serious . Which makes the kid look worse . I know right why waste our time... smh... “play around” lmao

Well as a fighter, Canelo Alvarez is the more complete and well rounded of the two. He has a very good defense as well and a very good offense too. However, when it comes solely down to defense, then I will have to go with Tyson Fury; Because he is the more one dimensional of the two. In recent years he have diminished his offensive abilty in order to enhance his defensive ability. Now he is become more of a pure boxer who throws mostly pitty pat, slappy, arm punches. He very rarely settle down on his punches for power anymore.

You don’t “play around” in any fight. Who plays when they fight? Stop it brotha ^There's truth to that. Some boxers "play" because it's part of their psychological technique. Fans mistakenly think of this as him purposely being weak but that's rarely true. Like when Anderson Silva got caught and everyone was in denial, "He was just playing". No, he was fighting his fight and got KTFO. Fans can't go pretending it doesn't count. When you play weak to get a fighter to open up, it's a specific tactic and if you get dropped, it's not because you weren't trying.

Seriously?? Canelo's defense is miles better. He's actually responding to punches, not just swaying in a rehearsed rhythm like Fury does. Plus, Canelo is dealing with much faster fighters and has the superior reflexes by far. It's really weird to me that people see Fury swaying around and they think it's somehow brilliant. I've been saying it for a long time, when Fury fights a half decent boxer who throws feints, you'll see how basic his defense actually is. Right now, he just keeps moving and does the, "slip the jab, expect a right, expect a left". There's nothing complex about that and it's not close to what Canelo is doing.

You don’t “play around” in any fight. Who plays when they fight? Stop it brotha I didn't reply to him because I figured he was trolling with such a B.S post . Guess he was serious . Which makes the kid look worse .

Canelo by a mile. He is fighting better fighters. Put Fury in with Parker, Ruiz or Whyte or even Miller and I think he will get hit plenty. Wilder almost knocked him out. This. Canelo's resume wipes the floor with Fury who basically fought total trash and Wilder/Vlad. When you're toughest opponent other than those 2 is Derek Chisora it's not hard to look like you have a good defence.

Fury was showboating and disrespecting cunningham, and cunningham was angry and getting back at him for pushing him around. So he loaded up and whacked him with everything he had while fury was still playing around. If you're a boxing fan then you should understand the context of why everything happened. A boxing fan sees the story of the fight. You don’t “play around” in any fight. Who plays when they fight? Stop it brotha

Canelo by a mile. He is fighting better fighters. Put Fury in with Parker, Ruiz or Whyte or even Miller and I think he will get hit plenty. Wilder almost knocked him out.

Canelo has the better defense and it isn’t close. Canelo has never been dropped by a windmilling bum. Canelo rarely gets hit clean and that’s all from head and body movement. Fury’s defense consists of a lot of foot movement, which I don’t consider defense. If everyone used foot movement as defense we would never see a fight. Fury does have nice head and body movement though, just not better than Canelo’s. A windmilling bum who happens to be the hardest puncher in boxing history. If Wilder hits you cleanly with his right hand, its more likely to drop you than getting hit by Matthew Hatton. Canelo has an excellent defence, but it didn't stop him from losing to GGG.

Canelo is vastly superior. Can we get some of those defensive GIFs from his Trout and Jacobs fight.

That's a poor assessment. This is heavyweight boxing. Anyone can get floored. By your logic david haye had a better defense than muhammad Ali because ali has been decked numerous times. David haye was a runner, not a defensive specialist, who counters off the roll or stays in the pocket. David haye didnt stay in the pocket. Does Tyson Fury stay in the pocket or something? He may put his hands in his pockets from time to time, but inside a boxing ring against any opponent at elite level he does not stay in the pocket. Even though Fury is 6"9 he fights on the back foot against 100% of his opponents at elite level 'Because he is a one trick pony, zero inside game at elite level' I have been stating this for over 1 year, and will continue to state it. David Haye was 6"3 heavyweight fighting with all the so called statistically advantages stacked against him. Haye was a ambush fighter at heavyweght 'He also a higher KO percentage than Tyson Fury, so by you stating that he was a runner is incredibly wrong. Canelo Alvarez's defense has been more tested and proven than Tyson Fury's.

Spoken like a true casual who only watches boxing from highlight videos. Kudos for your fake, incorrect assessment. Kid I've watched Furys whole career. You obviously haven't watched his early fights. Bytch you don't know SHYT about boxing so stfu and stop acting like you're some knowledgeable fan. This thread is a joke.

David HAYE at his peak had a better defense than Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury's defense is good, but if it was that good he would not have been decked numerous times. At every level he has been fighting on? He has been decked, which means fighters can land their biggest punchers upon him. Also lets remember that Canelo is a smaller fighter moving up through the weights, his defense is more tested and proven.