Who will rank higher in history: Canelo or Golovkin?

When Golovkin and Martinez were at the point that a fight was emminent Martinez was hurt. He had come off several surgeries and his knee was a mess. His manager flat out said I'm not going to put my guy in the ring with a monster like Golovkin. Subsequently Cotto fought Martinez and stopped him early. Martinez was a fun fighter to watch in his prime but he wasn't prime at that time in his career. Golovkin destroys that version of Martinez. Yes. Martinez was on the downhill but all these resume junkies who act like resume alone proves a boxers validity is crazy. I think GGG would beat Martinez in his prime but injuries slowed him and a GGG win over him we couldnt even argue was a good win. Just like Canelo beating a blown up Cotto. Names arent everything but they only argue when its convenient.

I can't believe the second fight won fight of the year.

I personally dont get why you hate GGG so much that you refuse to live in reality man. I get the whole "resume" argument but you have two huge problems with your thinking. 1. If two fighters never fought each other then maybe you could use a resume argument, but they canelo/GGG did fight and their resumes had nothing to do with the outcome. If someone who was objective took your argument at face value, "resume proves how good a fighter is" then Canelo should have won a clear landslide victory according to you theory. But that is false. Canelo Barely scraped by twice with controversy staining the entire thing, you know the shebang, sketchy score cards and a PED scandal, and that's a 27-28 Year old IN HIS PRIME vs a 36-37 year old GGG. And then you got problems with everywhere else in your argument too. Being a champion in boxing is no different than playing king of the hill. It didnt matter who GGG pushed off because its completely negated by the fact no one pushed him off. He didnt move up and cherry pick titles like everyone else. He proved he was the best at his weight. Let me ask you how many guys on these forums say, a boxers weight is one that they can make. GGG can make 160 with no problem so what's the problem? He didnt live up to YOURexpectations? GGG ain't living his life to please you js. He was the champion for so damn long and held so many of the belts for so damn long that he couldnt possibly have faced any champions because he was the champion. I laugh though how you claim that Serigo was top dog until 2014. Literally you're just telling me the history of the WBC because it's the only argument that fits your agenda. Now read this part closely because it's pretty funny. You're gonna tell me that: Sergio who lost to a blown up Cotto would have beat GGG right? And then Cotto, who you what, also believe would beat GGG, paid GGG step aside money, because he thought GGG was too easy and wanted Canelo. And Canelo who never fought at 160 was a better MW then GGG despite the fact he, one, never fought at MW until Cotto, dropped the WBC belt so he didnt have to fight GGG, and then fought at a weight limit above MW? Nothing but agenda. I asked you to name some MWs better than GGG and you got nothing. Canelo didnt even fight as a MW until 2017. His "defining victory " was over a blown up shot Cotto who gave GGG step aside money and that makes him the best at MW right despite the fight being at 155lbs? And you're telling me that Sergio, who lost to that blown up Cotto, who paid GGG step aside money and what, would have won? Come on. Quit lying. When Golovkin and Martinez were at the point that a fight was emminent Martinez was hurt. He had come off several surgeries and his knee was a mess. His manager flat out said I'm not going to put my guy in the ring with a monster like Golovkin. Subsequently Cotto fought Martinez and stopped him early. Martinez was a fun fighter to watch in his prime but he wasn't prime at that time in his career. Golovkin destroys that version of Martinez.

They're probably about even right now but it'll be hard to rank Canelo since he popped twice. I'd like to see the rubber match before the end of year. Both of them need to throw caution to the wind and go for the kill. No more of this friendly, respectful crap cuz their last two fights were duds.

So out of the 37 fights and 20 middleweight title defenses you pick the two weakest guys you can think of and try to say that is all he ever did. What a stupid ass hole you are. You could make any boxer look bad if you took the two worse fighters they ever fought and said that's all they ever did. Canelo fought lots of guys a hell of a lot worse than Rolls and Wade and so did every boxer with a large number of fights. Both GGG and Canelo beat a hell of a lot of good fighters but nobody fights killers and aces every fight. Most of GGG's 20 title defenses were against guys ranked in the top 10 in the world or the fights would not have been sanctioned. Jacobs was ring Magazine number 1. Lemieux was ring magazine number 4. Geale was ring magazine number 4. Murray was ring magazine number 6 and so and so on. They were good high ranked fighters and he knocked them out. You’re not helping your argument with those names

...... Canelo These canelo ggg threads don’t plan on slowing down I guess lol

Neither is great by a long shot.

Canelo I think a better poll would be who will rank higher on the 160lbs atg rankings

I think GGG is a little better and I don't think Canelo can change that. They had two fights and I think GGG won both fights. In the first fight Canelo was a prime 27 and GGG was an old 35. In the 2nd fight Canelo was a prime 28 and GGG was an even older 36. When a boxer many years past his prime edges out an 8 year younger boxer in his prime I say the older boxer is better. On title defenses GGG had 20 successful title defenses winning 18 by KO. I don't think Canelo will equal that. I am a big fan of both and think they are both great but GGG is my choice as the better fighter. I think history will agree. Both will be in the hall of fame on the 1st ballot. 📋 Canelo Alvarez at the age of 28: 👑 WBA Super-Welter 👑 WBC Super-Welter 👑 WBO Super-Welter 👑 Ring Super-Welter 👑 WBA Middle 👑 WBC Middle (x2) 👑 IBF Middle 👑 Ring Middle (x2) 👑 WBA ‘Reg’ Super-Middle

📋 Canelo Alvarez at the age of 28: 👑 WBA Super-Welter 👑 WBC Super-Welter 👑 WBO Super-Welter 👑 Ring Super-Welter 👑 WBA Middle 👑 WBC Middle (x2) 👑 IBF Middle 👑 Ring Middle (x2) 👑 WBA ‘Reg’ Super-Middle

is this a serious question???? lol

Wouldn’t one come across as more shop worn after more fights taking more damage and taking big measures to make weight for those fights come into play with someone being into their prime at a younger age than someone else who’s had less fights and hasn’t had much wear and tear on the body but is a few years older? Just curious as to what would be considered prime for each fighter is all You still got to take into account 20+ years of fighting. All the amateur fights, running, sparring, exercising, thousands upon thousands of punches thrown. Alvarez may have more pro fights but someone like Golovkin has an incredible amount of mileage on him, especially with what we know of him and how hard he's trained for all these years, according to those who have witnessed and trained beside him. Hard to say what age is considered most prime but someone who is 35+ with that many miles definitely isn't.

Yes because the overwhelming amount of boxers/athletes are either retired or perform at a lesser level once in their mid 30's. Golovkin was already showing decline in 2016 and even Hopkins took notice and was making comments. They knew what they were doing by waiting Golovkin out. Wouldn’t one come across as more shop worn after more fights taking more damage and taking big measures to make weight for those fights come into play with someone being into their prime at a younger age than someone else who’s had less fights and hasn’t had much wear and tear on the body but is a few years older? Just curious as to what would be considered prime for each fighter is all

Does age really matter when one was 13 years into a pro career and the other one 12 years into it? Yes because the overwhelming amount of boxers/athletes are either retired or perform at a lesser level once in their mid 30's. Golovkin was already showing decline in 2016 and even Hopkins took notice and was making comments. They knew what they were doing by waiting Golovkin out.

Canelo, but I’m not sure why people would be concerned with this when both guys are still active and should be fighting each other. We could be discussing who will win their fight in September if the fight was actually happening, not looking for some other way to compare them. I agree. It makes you wonder why Alvarez fans are constantly comparing their guy favorably to Golovkin but aren't too interested in a third fight.

Lol is this even a question???

Those who beats Andrade and Jermall.

I think GGG is a little better and I don't think Canelo can change that. They had two fights and I think GGG won both fights. In the first fight Canelo was a prime 27 and GGG was an old 35. In the 2nd fight Canelo was a prime 28 and GGG was an even older 36. When a boxer many years past his prime edges out an 8 year younger boxer in his prime I say the older boxer is better. Does age really matter when one was 13 years into a pro career and the other one 12 years into it?

Canelo, but I’m not sure why people would be concerned with this when both guys are still active and should be fighting each other. We could be discussing who will win their fight in September if the fight was actually happening, not looking for some other way to compare them.

After 2 close fights, if there's no 3rd fight, history will show Alvarez wasn't willing to fight a 3rd time. Fans will see this according to their bias. Either Alvarez's agenda didn't include Golovkin or that he ducked.