Ruiz has some interesting comments on the Bill Simmons podcast

Why do you assume Andre Ward signed the same rematch clause as Ruiz? I think it's safe to say Eddie Hearn knows the details. eddie hearn is as lost in the dark as the rest of you limey plebs. 😝 a joe frazier fan AND a joshua fan. YOU SURE CAN PICK EM lolololol glass chinned bums that is... lololololol

Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows the purse isn't fixed in the rematch because you can't determine the worth of the Challenger before he wins. That was Wilder's main point of contention with the 2 fighter offer. lacedup is a salty coward. he is just mourning after what happened to joshua. 😂 he likes making up lies to defend hearn but he knows british boxing died when joshua lost. 😝

the pruse is never set before hand! You noob! ..... right.

Eddie Hearn is John Skipper's errant boy. Skipper wants the fight in the USA/Mexico at the normal PPV times. Haymon, Skipper(DAZN), and Ruiz want PPV in the America's (Vegas,Mexico City). Because is equals more money for the purse. AJ, Hearn want the UK because they want to get back the belts at all cost. AJs biggest claim to fame is thay he has the most belts. The UK fans bought into the scheme but who is to say that they are gonna stay on the bandwagon with another bad performance. Why would a network tie themselves down with AJ when Ruiz, Wilder, and even Fury have potential to be bigger stars that AJ at this point. He has to destroy Ruiz and either beat Wilder or Fury to regain his status as the best even in his own fans minds. Had he taken on Wilder earlier there wouldnt be any shame in losing a fight and a rematch and he could have still been considered the 2nd best of his era. He very well may gone on to do so. But had he beat Wilder he would have automatically been considered a top 3 Hwy of All Time by his fans. A fight with Fury or anyone else would have been on his terms. Now with the loss to Ruiz, AJ/Hearn cant muscle their way around with Haymon/Ruiz because both parites have something to bring to the table in a rematch. Skipper is the trump card who may want to woo Ruiz to DAZN so he can have a Mexican one two punch of Canelo and Ruiz on his network sometime in the future. Even beating Ruiz inst going to make him top dog vs Wilder or Fury in any situation. The loser of that fight stiil has more clout than anyone who has lost to Ruiz at this point. And there is still no guarantee the Ruiz/AJ rematch even happens. Im done listening to Hearn because Skipper is the person who is signing the purse checks at DAZN. With this rematch being a big deal we could see Hearn getting kicked out af negotiations AGAIN and AJ/Ruiz/Skipper/Haymond coming up with a deal. The fight happens in Vegas and not Mexico with 120K Mexicans screaming for AJs blood like an Aztec sacrifice. Im sure some how a REAL blood moon could be worked into the Ruiz into but I think thats why was saying he wants 50mto fight in the UK. 80K drunk angry Brits who are pissy mad and pissy drunk because you slapped down their Superhero/model isnt going to be a friendly environment either. Ruiz coming out the UK with those belts is going to be akin to an Indiana Jones gauntlet like movie except in this case the hero is fat and his signature isnt a hat its a Snickers bar and the evil baddy seems to be Hearn with AJ as the muscle henchman who could turn good once he is free from his evil spell the baddy Hearn as cast on him. AJ isnt a bad dude and if someone else except Hearn (even Arum) was promoting him he wouldnt have a good portion of the US and now Mexican fanbase rooting against him. So Vegas will be a good compromise because its the best place for the UK fans to invade (no NYC PTSD) and the new Ruiz Mexican bandwagon (it used to carry lawn equipment) fans to meet up and scrap.

You guys do realize Ruiz has to get what he wants or he just waits out the clause for 1 year and it’s null and void. Ruiz has all the power here.

That’s just Hearn being Hearn. Nobody knows the details. Has nothing to know about “knowing about boxing.” Kovalev didn’t call any shots in the rematch. Why do you assume Andre Ward signed the same rematch clause as Ruiz? I think it's safe to say Eddie Hearn knows the details.

Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows the purse isn't fixed in the rematch because you can't determine the worth of the Challenger before he wins. That was Wilder's main point of contention with the 2 fighter offer. Wilder was a champion, not a challenger.

Are you saying Hearn who controlled the context of the contract knows more than the wilder fans and the ldbc crew about the inner works of the contract ? You sure about that buddy as the Haymon henchman on here seem adamant they know best about it Seems unlikely, but i'm rolling the dice on that one yes.

Notice how it went from next fight in the UK to ok we'll do it in America. Trust me, that rematch clause ain't what y'all think it is. We hear that straight from Ruiz mouth. The champion has way more say in the rematch. Another thing y'all fail to realize is the leverage Ruiz had in making the first fight. It was Hearn & AJ whose backs were against the wall finding a suitable replacement opponent. If just anybody would've done the trick they would've had Hunter fight him. He now has more leverage than before. Absolutely stupid I bet this idiot doesn’t know what a contract is, the fool is probably high again

Notice how it went from next fight in the UK to ok we'll do it in America. Trust me, that rematch clause ain't what y'all think it is. We hear that straight from Ruiz mouth. The champion has way more say in the rematch. Another thing y'all fail to realize is the leverage Ruiz had in making the first fight. It was Hearn & AJ whose backs were against the wall finding a suitable replacement opponent. If just anybody would've done the trick they would've had Hunter fight him. He now has more leverage than before. Hearn screwed up, he made the contract loose because this dude in his eyes was just a fat mexican with no shot in hell to beat his guy aj. Boy did that backfire on hearn. Now Ruiz has all the cards and to make matters worse for hearn, ruiz is al haymons newly signed fighter under contract with pbc. So joshua is officially screwed unless hearn gives into fair negotiations and gives ruiz some compensation or has the fight on fox ppv which would make more sense financially in the usa. From what people have said its not an Immediate rematch clause and hearn never put a non negotiable in there all because he thought AJ would dispense of this fat guy easily. Hearn made a dumbo move, didnt he know ruiz was a haymon fighter? Now haymon has all the belts. Even bob arum with all the **** he talks would never do a move like this. Hearn is an amateur.

I suspect there is leeway he has via the power he has by owning the belts right now. So I tend to think Eddie has less control then he's suggesting, but I have no doubt he has the words on paper that give him the edge in power. But its more a two way street thats for sure. Sh^t Ruiz could just start vacating belts if he wanted to f#cking up the whole unified champ thing. Not saying he would cuz thats likely to f#ck up his money & rep, but just trying to indicate through an extreme example that Ruiz has some power here. Great point. I believe there have been times in the past where an underdog won the belts, was bound to a rematch clause, but was able to use those kinds of threats to get better or different terms than were in the rematch clause. You can threaten retirement, you can threaten to vacate, you can threaten to come down with an injury or illness.

So why did it go from "next fight in the UK" after the fight to the next fight being in America after Ruiz said he wanted $50 mil to fight there? If the money and location is already set in the rematch clause then why did everything change? Because they want clueless people to talk about this rematch, build interest making up stuff like that. It's boxing, 90% of what you hear is made up for fans to talk about, you watch boxing long enough to know what boxers/promoters say and what really happens are two different things.

Notice how it went from next fight in the UK to ok we'll do it in America. Trust me, that rematch clause ain't what y'all think it is. We hear that straight from Ruiz mouth. The champion has way more say in the rematch. Another thing y'all fail to realize is the leverage Ruiz had in making the first fight. It was Hearn & AJ whose backs were against the wall finding a suitable replacement opponent. If just anybody would've done the trick they would've had Hunter fight him. He now has more leverage than before. Stick to the facts, champion has nothing to say if he signed rematch clause, ask Fury. How can boxing fans be so naive?

Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows the purse isn't fixed in the rematch because you can't determine the worth of the Challenger before he wins. That was Wilder's main point of contention with the 2 fighter offer. Come on, you can't be stupid enough to believe that? Fight is made already, it's just fools in here believing they are actually negotiating.

(...) Kovalev didn’t call any shots in the rematch. ... ^^^ This... :) (This is precisely the case here...)

Well as far as the venue is concerned, it's negotiable because Eddie just so happened to leave that logistical aspect of the rematch clause of the contract blank. Therefore, unless there is direct language or wording that Matchroom gets to choose the venue for the rematch, then we can very well have a stalemate on our hands. If Hearn doesn't capitulate to Al Haymon's and Andy Ruiz' demands the rematch could very well be scrapped.

Ruiz begged Hearn for the fight. Hearn knew Ruiz was an Al Haymon fighter. No way did the contract give Ruiz any real clout of power of authority for any potential rematch. Ruiz is a good guy and all and this is a real Cinderalla story but Ruiz is being totally naive if he thinks he can just rewrite the contract now. Hearn/Matchroom/DAZN are not idiots.

Hearn said on IFL earlier "anyone who knows anything about boxing" should know the answer, indicating that the purse is fixed and location is up to them. That’s just Hearn being Hearn. Nobody knows the details. Has nothing to know about “knowing about boxing.” Kovalev didn’t call any shots in the rematch.

Hearn said on IFL earlier "anyone who knows anything about boxing" should know the answer, indicating that the purse is fixed and location is up to them. Are you saying Hearn who controlled the context of the contract knows more than the wilder fans and the ldbc crew about the inner works of the contract ? You sure about that buddy as the Haymon henchman on here seem adamant they know best about it

Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows the purse isn't fixed in the rematch because you can't determine the worth of the Challenger before he wins. That was Wilder's main point of contention with the 2 fighter offer. Welcome to boxing You are wrong Wilder used anything to duck but a stupid idiot like you who spreads fake news would of course go on about it You also said Joshua wasn’t signed to dazn Joshua wasn’t guaranteed You weed dwellers know little about anything other than growing plants B sides usually get fixed fees, eg Ruiz got 5m In the contract it would state if he were to win, for the rematch he would get x fee You know nothing about the sport, the purses are already agreed, twat, now fk off outta here bum One has to look at your threads, the last 10 have been fake news from the ldbc channels you pretend is real