AJ is good at mid range distance, but not long distance. Ruiz was his worst nightmare at mid-range. Hands are too fast, he hits too hard, got a solid chin, but most of all... His counter punching is unbelievable. The left hook will strike Joshua again.
Things I know will happen in the rematch.
1. Ruiz will not get knocked out. Besides when Ruiz went down, he took Aj's best shot during that exchange, a beautiful right hand, clean and barely flinched.
2. There will be a few intense exchanges through the fight. It's inevitable. AJ is not going to keep Ruiz at bay with a jab for 12 rounds. Not realistic. Ruiz will push and get on the inside. There will be bombs thrown, Ruiz will lure AJ into a fight.
3. AJ will feel great back home, with his people.
4. Ruiz will be confident, in spite of fighting in the Uk.
5. The hype for this fight will be MASSIVE. It's going to transcend and the casuals will be jumping on board. Can't wait!
I had heard about the shoulder injury and the faux Lefty situation lol. But you elaborate on this info, which is very credible, to give more information about how good Ward was. Shows his intelligence, and that of his coach as well. His dad was a fighter also I was told.
"My Dad boxed in high school and was 15-0 as a heavyweight. He danced in the ring because that’s what you did. He wore all white leather Adidas boxing shoes with red stripes because you did. He ultimately taught me how to box out of his love for you."
... from Andre Ward's "Open Letter to Muhammad Ali"...
When AJ was using his jab to Ruiz's midsection it was helping him.
He doesn't know how to hold, he backs up in a straight line and has the Amir Khan problem that he is more focus letting the offense go and forgetting the defense.
he has to learn to fight going backwards, n to move that head... there are too many flaws to fix in short time, maybe a focused aj wll do better.... but it seems unlikely vs this style (ruiz).
I honestly feel the Anthony Joshua we saw 2 weeks ago...is Anthony Joshua. NONE of the other stuff coming from "WHY" he lost would have been mentioned had he finished Ruiz in the 3rd round. We can't forget him getting hurt by Whyte, Klitschko, Povetkin, and now this? The writing's been on the wall for me for some time now as it concerns AJ. Outside of Joshua landing a big punch Ruiz doesn't see or can't regroup from, I smell another Ruiz win.
Klitschko was trained by Manny Steward... :)
As about Ward: sometime between 2010-2012 I was quite close to some people in "team Bute", and I've studied Ward's rough hose and grappling tactics... Ward practically fought all his career as a one handed inverted southpaw (because he injured his right shoulder at 12 yo and he undertook surgery only 16 years later)... Ward was a very gifted and intelligent fighter, but because of his "right hand handicap" he started early in appropriating those rough hose and grappling techniques... He didn't use them "in excess" -- in fact he used them 3-4 times, when he got in trouble, or he was just not technically good enough to out box or out land his opponent... :)
I had heard about the shoulder injury and the faux Lefty situation lol. But you elaborate on this info, which is very credible, to give more information about how good Ward was. Shows his intelligence, and that of his coach as well. His dad was a fighter also I was told.
AJ is good at mid range distance, but not long distance. Ruiz was his worst nightmare at mid-range. Hands are too fast, he hits too hard, got a solid chin, but most of all... His counter punching is unbelievable. The left hook will strike Joshua again.
Ruiz isn't great but he still beats joshua in the rematch
And that is a whole other kettle of fish that is perhaps even more an issue. I gave AJ a pass on this because fighters of this generation fight in an ammy like style and many upon many haave no concept of fighting inside. Many of the ins and outs of professional boxing used to involve a) being well rounded and fighting in all ranges. b) Particularly knowing how to deal with being neutralized inside because this was how pressure fighters neutralized speed and range.
The great Klitsko himself would flinch at times when pressured... and there is such a lack of guys utilizing this range that it makes a lot of us cry frankly. Ward, who some call dirty is an example, imo of a fighter who, may not have incredible athletic assets but was accurate and could fight on the inside.
Yes Ruiz has experience and will take the fight inside, he said so much. There is no way to train AJ at this point to go there. His best bet would be to neutralize, do what Klitsko did for years (I hated it) and grab Ruiz. but Ruiz won't stop punching and is hard to grab lol.
Klitschko was trained by Manny Steward... :)
As about Ward: sometime between 2010-2012 I was quite close to some people in "team Bute", and I've studied Ward's rough hose and grappling tactics... Ward practically fought all his career as a one handed inverted southpaw (because he injured his right shoulder at 12 yo and he undertook surgery only 16 years later)... Ward was a very gifted and intelligent fighter, but because of his "right hand handicap" he started early in appropriating those rough hose and grappling techniques... He didn't use them "in excess" -- in fact he used them 3-4 times, when he got in trouble, or he was just not technically good enough to out box or out land his opponent... :)
... forget the OP...
... please try and watch AJ's head movement and upper body movement... and his "inside game skills" under pressure... :)
And that is a whole other kettle of fish that is perhaps even more an issue. I gave AJ a pass on this because fighters of this generation fight in an ammy like style and many upon many haave no concept of fighting inside. Many of the ins and outs of professional boxing used to involve a) being well rounded and fighting in all ranges. b) Particularly knowing how to deal with being neutralized inside because this was how pressure fighters neutralized speed and range.
The great Klitsko himself would flinch at times when pressured... and there is such a lack of guys utilizing this range that it makes a lot of us cry frankly. Ward, who some call dirty is an example, imo of a fighter who, may not have incredible athletic assets but was accurate and could fight on the inside.
Yes Ruiz has experience and will take the fight inside, he said so much. There is no way to train AJ at this point to go there. His best bet would be to neutralize, do what Klitsko did for years (I hated it) and grab Ruiz. but Ruiz won't stop punching and is hard to grab lol.
I would have to agree to a large extent with the OP here...Red knows I think the world of him regardless. What AJ had to do was step back and not get pushed off his base when he is punching...sounds pretty simple and all...
But AJ does not have the footwork yet, it just has not developed to a point where he can time Ruiz as he steps back and uses his reach. AJ is very talented but has not had the experience of fighting a good pressure guy who has enough experience to play with range, and the confidence to hit at anything to get AJ moving back.
What it appears we are left with is a belief that AJ just has to do a few things to get on track. Aj took a beating so psychologically he has to get his confidance back, remember Ronda Roussey? Confidance can kill ya!
Aj also has to realize what Ruiz is doing and I am not so sure he does realize yet what the problem is. Ruiz constantly pressures and is moving even when connecting. his fast hands make it hard to counter him as well. If AJ had done like Chisora for example, and fought em all, lose win or draw, he would naturally learn how to encounter a pressure fighter cutting the ring off. With no such experience and... a corner that may/may not realize what Ruiz is doing to AJ (keeping him unbalanced) its crap shoot.
Aj can punch well and has good combo punching. He needs to study now to keep Ruiz at the tip of his extended arms. i don't see it happening though. The next fight will prolly look like Roussey Nunes.
... forget the OP...
... please try and watch AJ's head movement and upper body movement... and his "inside game skills" under pressure... :)
Ruiz is a great boxer and I don't see how AJ is going to beat him.
AJ is good at mid range distance, but not long distance. Ruiz was his worst nightmare at mid-range. Hands are too fast, he hits too hard, got a solid chin, but most of all... His counter punching is unbelievable. The left hook will strike Joshua again.
... it's more "complicated"... most of AJ's straight rights are coming from "distance"... while his his hooks (mostly left) are coming from mid-range, of course... AJ's main problem is that he doesn't hold o proper defense and inside game...
I just watched AJ vs Povetkin, and he seemed to be a lot more focused in that fight. Even in the first few rounds, and he needs to be focused.
If he is, he can win, and could win easily. If not, obviously we've seen what happened.
IDK. McCracken we telling him to keep range and movement and AJ didn't do it. If he follows his coach next time he can make this a nightmare for Ruiz. If AJ wants to create space and circle, what's Ruiz going to do?
I think, for Ruiz to win, AJ has to fuk up again.
I don't think AJ liked the pressure Ruiz was putting on him and he wanted to try something different. I think they were worried about the speed of Andy.
He's got to fight with the mentality Barrera had against Hamed, when you hurt the guy don't follow in and go for the kill.
I think Josh has earned enough respect with his power that Ruiz knows he can't just walk through him so Joshua needs to use the jab and run his punches up the middle, the knock out will come but you've got to soften a guy like Ruiz up first.
The big complication for Joshua is that:
A: He has to compartmentalize the loss mentally
B. He still has to sit down on his shots a little
C. Ruiz knows he can hurt him, at points in the fight he will go for the kill, especially if he's desperate, can Josh handle the heat?
I'll be impressed if Joshua can pull it off, but I'll be equally impressed if Ruiz repeats, it could be a classic fight. This is not a Rahman situation, Ruiz can fight and they aren't miles apart in ability.
I would have to agree to a large extent with the OP here...Red knows I think the world of him regardless. What AJ had to do was step back and not get pushed off his base when he is punching...sounds pretty simple and all...
But AJ does not have the footwork yet, it just has not developed to a point where he can time Ruiz as he steps back and uses his reach. AJ is very talented but has not had the experience of fighting a good pressure guy who has enough experience to play with range, and the confidence to hit at anything to get AJ moving back.
What it appears we are left with is a belief that AJ just has to do a few things to get on track. Aj took a beating so psychologically he has to get his confidance back, remember Ronda Roussey? Confidance can kill ya!
Aj also has to realize what Ruiz is doing and I am not so sure he does realize yet what the problem is. Ruiz constantly pressures and is moving even when connecting. his fast hands make it hard to counter him as well. If AJ had done like Chisora for example, and fought em all, lose win or draw, he would naturally learn how to encounter a pressure fighter cutting the ring off. With no such experience and... a corner that may/may not realize what Ruiz is doing to AJ (keeping him unbalanced) its crap shoot.
Aj can punch well and has good combo punching. He needs to study now to keep Ruiz at the tip of his extended arms. i don't see it happening though. The next fight will prolly look like Roussey Nunes.
IDK. McCracken we telling him to keep range and movement and AJ didn't do it. If he follows his coach next time he can make this a nightmare for Ruiz. If AJ wants to create space and circle, what's Ruiz going to do?
I think, for Ruiz to win, AJ has to fuk up again.
What I saw:
A few times AJ landed a good hit and tried to follow it up
But was caught off guard when Ruiz didn’t quite back down and just went forward throwing punches.
AJ can punch that much is true!
AR can take a hit and keep on ticking
At least that is how I saw it! And thought that AJ never really recovered after he went down the first time.
IDK. McCracken we telling him to keep range and movement and AJ didn't do it. If he follows his coach next time he can make this a nightmare for Ruiz. If AJ wants to create space and circle, what's Ruiz going to do?
I think, for Ruiz to win, AJ has to fuk up again.