Which Mexican boxer has the best resume?

Julio Cesar Chavez...

I don’t think Danny Lopez was better than Lionel Rose or Chucho Castillo for example to name a couple of Olivares’ prime opponents. Rose dethroned Harada and has wins against Medel, Rudkin and Castillo. He was awesome in his prime until Olivares ended it. The hall of fame can sometimes get it wrong. Ingemar Johansson and Barry McGuigan are Hall of famers for example. Bobby Chacon too is better than Lopez. Nelson went on to have a great career but was totally unestablished in 1982. I like Danny Lopez a lot but I’m not sure he was better than Famechon, Winstone, Legra, Laguna and Ramos to name a few of Vicente Saldivar’s best opponents. He had more defenses than those guys but he didn’t have to go through Saldivar or Jofre for his title. He was stopped by Fukuyama around the time an old Jofre blasted Fukayama and also split bouts with Octavio Gomez around the time a 40 year old Jofre outpointed him. Famechon, Legra, Winstone probably have too much mobility, speed and skills for Lopez. Laguna of course went on to become a great lightweight champion. What I do is I measure if the fighter is at peak, established or a solid top guy. If he gets beat what he does after the loss I greatly take it under consideration. Sanches beat Gomez and Nelson and they had a lot of fight still in them.

That is my point. He had more great wins against established opponents. Too bad that his life got cut short. I know right, I think he may of been the best of all time from Mexico had his career went longer. I meant what a heck of a start he had.

Marquez definitely beat Norwood and John by at least two rounds each and deserved at least 3 Pacquaio wins. The Bradley fight at the arena I felt Marquez won but have scored it twice on TV and had it a draw each time. Bradley got a little too much credit from the commentary team and judges in that one. Same, JMM was a faded warrior against Bradley, but it was no blowout for Bradley. The victory was a SPLIT decision, meaning there was an argument for both winning, but Marquez landed more meaningful shots and won on my scorecard. Anyways, both Sanchez and Marquez can be switched for 1st or 2nd for the beauty of their victories. For instance, Sanchez defeated two of the greatest fighters of their respective contries by KO, and his career was cut in half. A case can be made for either fighter on the best resume for Mexican fighters.

I thought JMM beat Freddie Norwood, Chris John and Tim Bradley. He should also have at the very least, 1 other win versus Pac, at least. The trilogy was a clear W for JMM in my cards. JMM outlanded Bradley in meaningful power punches in 9 rounds out of 12. The judge with the closest thing to a good scorecard was 115-113 for Marquez and even that was too generous for Bradley. Marquez definitely beat Norwood and John by at least two rounds each and deserved at least 3 Pacquaio wins. The Bradley fight at the arena I felt Marquez won but have scored it twice on TV and had it a draw each time. Bradley got a little too much credit from the commentary team and judges in that one.

That is my point. He had more great wins against established opponents. Too bad that his life got cut short. I don’t think Danny Lopez was better than Lionel Rose or Chucho Castillo for example to name a couple of Olivares’ prime opponents. Rose dethroned Harada and has wins against Medel, Rudkin and Castillo. He was awesome in his prime until Olivares ended it. The hall of fame can sometimes get it wrong. Ingemar Johansson and Barry McGuigan are Hall of famers for example. Bobby Chacon too is better than Lopez. Nelson went on to have a great career but was totally unestablished in 1982. I like Danny Lopez a lot but I’m not sure he was better than Famechon, Winstone, Legra, Laguna and Ramos to name a few of Vicente Saldivar’s best opponents. He had more defenses than those guys but he didn’t have to go through Saldivar or Jofre for his title. He was stopped by Fukuyama around the time an old Jofre blasted Fukayama and also split bouts with Octavio Gomez around the time a 40 year old Jofre outpointed him. Famechon, Legra, Winstone probably have too much mobility, speed and skills for Lopez. Laguna of course went on to become a great lightweight champion.

I thought JMM beat Freddie Norwood, Chris John and Tim Bradley. He should also have at the very least, 1 other win versus Pac, at least. The trilogy was a clear W for JMM in my cards. JMM outlanded Bradley in meaningful power punches in 9 rounds out of 12. The judge with the closest thing to a good scorecard was 115-113 for Marquez and even that was too generous for Bradley.

Sanchez was 4-0 with 4ko against hall of fane fighters... at 23! That is my point. He had more great wins against established opponents. Too bad that his life got cut short.

Sanchez beat two Hall of Famers Sanchez was 4-0 with 4ko against hall of fane fighters... at 23!

The whole “x amount of hall of famers” is not that important. For example Mosley will be hall of fame but Alfonso Zamora and Lionel Rose won’t be so is Canelo U12 shot Mosley > Olivares KO5 Rose or Zarate KO4 Zamora? Of course not. It’s a lazy way of viewing the merits of the fights and fighters and shows a lack of real research and/or knowledge and understanding. Ruben Olivares has to be up there KO of a prime Lionel Rose which is a better win than most. Series win over Chucho Castillo. These are fighters that without Olivares would be great. You’ve got to remember in last eras there were less titles, less divisions so to be #1 meant a lot more and was harder. There were better fighters that never won titles than a lot of today’s multi weight champs and “hall of famers”. Olivares also destroyed Jesus Pimentel and Bobby Chacon. Alan Rudkin was an excellent contender - destroyed. He blew out Jose Luis Ramirez in two. Look at his pre-title run too - Medel, Burrini, Gomez then you’ve got wins like Stevens, Hafey, Torres. Sanchez might have as strong a top 3 as any of them and perhaps Marquez and Olivares are closest but Chavez’ overall quantity and depth is fantastic as is the consistency. He didn’t beat any great fighters and the best names as far as HOF goes were past prime already but that just proves that’s not the best way to go about it. He probably stopped Taylor being extremely great. Vicente Saldivar has an incredible resume too. Best Sugar Ramos for the title. Awesome fighter and victory in his prime. Howard Winstone 3x, Johnny Famechon, Jose Legra. These are fighters who’d be “hall of famers” in a more watered down era with more divisions and belts. They were basically in the wrong era because of Saldivar. Their weaknesses are their era the same way Wilder and Joshua biggest strength is their era for example. 1. Chavez 2. Olivares 3. Marquez 4. Sanchez 5. Saldivar I can’t see how that’s not the top 5 Mexican fighters though I can see an argument on the order.

I would add Edwin Rosario to the list of Chavez's notable wins.

Maybe triple G with the KO streak but I don't know yet. Look at Gomez career and Nelson's. Gomez KOed both guys in their prime GGG has a terrible resume for a HOF, but I could see those guys voting him in.

GGG and Cotto will be hall of famers. Maybe triple G with the KO streak but I don't know yet. Look at Gomez career and Nelson's. Gomez KOed both guys in their prime

You have to go JMM. SS even at a young age goes 2nd. Lol at have Khan and Kirkland as notable wins tho

GGG and Cotto will be hall of famers. True but GGG win came with controversy and Cotto was way passed it. Compared to Sanchez who had KO wins with his 3 best wins.

So will Mosley Good point on that one too.

GGG and Cotto will be hall of famers. So will Mosley

Sanchez beat two Hall of Famers GGG and Cotto will be hall of famers.

Vincente had beaten the likes of sugar Ramos and Howard winstone

Sanchez beat two Hall of Famers