moving the goal posts huh? 😂
calzaghe is a welsh fighter that has fought in england scotland denmark germany and america.
yanks dont got the balls to roll like dat tbh... 😃
please remind me why he even needed to leave the uk?
maybe if more of the nobody yank champions fought in europe they wouldn't be so poor and would have more popularity?
and what does chris eubank having losses have to do with anything? 😂😂😂
if he came out retirement today he would sell out wembly stadium bro...
ward fought a shot kessler.
and by "busted him up" i assume you mean headbutted him.
roy jones and bhopper are biiger names than anyone coWard beat 😂😂
lets see you spin that 😃
You keep talking about names. I'm talking about games and that's the difference between a tosser like yourself and me. It's not just a matter of who they beat, it's WHEN they beat them. Which is the reason why Frazier gets credit for beating Ali while no one gives a rat's ass that Trevor Berbick did it a decade later.
Calzaghe didn't need to leave the UK. That is unless he wanted to fight someone who was actually decent. But he didn't, so he stayed behind and fought has-beens, never-weres and the average chump from the pub down the street. It's also why he waited to fight Eubank, RJJ and BHop until they were long past their primes - because he was too scared to take any of them on while they were at the top of their games. He'd have gotten destroyed. He knew it. You know it and so do the rest of us.
I'm sure he'd sell out Wembly today. I love the inferiority complex of the UK fans. They know their guys almost never measure up so they hype up anyone who is even half decent fighter as an ATG. I guess that's what you have to do when you don't have anything real to celebrate. Then when they face anyone in their primes they get their asses kicked. The only difference between Calzaghe and someone like Khan or Joshua is that Calzaghe knew better so he kept fighting the Bum of the Month Club members.
I just saw a brit compare calzaghe to floyd Mayweather Jr. That's it, I'm done. No need to even debate or even acknowledge anything further with this thread......
oh yeah and steve collins is a coward and a *****house.
he ducked clazaghe, thats ho the eubank fight happend kid
I've been wondering when Madison Boxing would create an alt and here it is..................m
He may he an ATG to the Brits but they have very poor standards. I mean they claimed AJ was good and he got beaten by a fat replacement.
If you exclude those animals then no he isnt a atg..
he beat up roy jones and bernard hopkins all around the ring
like they were nothing but journeymen.
jeff lacy was supposed to be the next mike tyson and he was literally beaten to within an inch of his life.... 😝😝😝😝😝
and are you actually pretending beating up chris eubank i the
90's isnt a big win? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
thats like beating a guy like clenelo now.....
and kessler stole frochs soul.
calzaghe beat a prime kessler.
coWard fought a shell of kessler and couldnt win without headbutting and clinching... 😃
and what does him fighting in the uk have to do with ABSOLUTLEY anything?
which is also a lie
dude fought in germany, denmark and america
you are also probably to much of a spastic to realise uk isnt just one thing.
calzaghe is welsh. so a lot of the time he wasnt ACTUALLY fighting on home turf....
RJJ was a journeyman when they fought lol & he arguably lost to B Hop, look at what Sergey & Smith did to him.
Jeff Lacy? The guy that nearly lost to Sheika?
A shot Eubank who took the fight on a week's notice whilst dropping 20lbs to make weight?
Kessler-Froch were neck & neck, Ward dominated both of them, Kessler when he was still green & Froch with a broken hand. Kessler wasn't a shell of himself either lmao, he was a favorite to win the S6.
Incredibly poor resume.
If retiring undefeated makes one an all-time great then I say yes; Why not? Of course, he's an all-time great. Money May retired undefeated as well and he is considered an all-time great too.
Likewise, he was a very entertaining fighter as well. He averaged throwing about a hundred punches per round. Plus he was a southpaw, who can throw punches from different angles and he had a very nice resume also.
its an amazing double standaerd isnt it? 😐
its the same reason they hate "money" moonsri.
he didnt just break floyds record he shattered it 😝
If retiring undefeated makes one an all-time great then I say yes; Why not? Of course, he's an all-time great. Money May retired undefeated as well and he is considered an all-time great too.
Likewise, he was a very entertaining fighter as well. He averaged throwing about a hundred punches per round. Plus he was a southpaw, who can throw punches from different angles and he had a very nice resume also.
Do you just post for shock value or do you actually believe the incredibly ignorant shyte you post here?
oh yeah and steve collins is a coward and a *****house.
he ducked clazaghe, thats ho the eubank fight happend kid
Do you just post for shock value or do you actually believe the incredibly ignorant shyte you post here?
my statement was 100% factual and objective son 👍😃
Joe Calzaghe fought 43 of his first 44 fights in UK. That is his home turf so stop trying to BS me and the rest of the board. Joe fought at home against mostly nobodies and he did so for virtually his entire career.
He BARELY beat (by split decision) Hopkins when he was 43 years old. Not a prime Hopkins but a Hopkins who was beaten by Jermain Taylor twice and would draw against Jean Pascal a couple of years later. His match against RJJ was even more embarrassing since Roy had been KO'd by both Tarver and Johnson. He couldn't even knock Roy out, something that Danny Green would do the following year. Neither is a victory that is particularly noteworthy given both opponents age. They're names but they're largely empty names. With Hopkins you can make an argument that he was still very good (though well past his prime and not elite). RJJ was DONE long before then.
You must have some great promoters in the UK if you thought Lacy was the next Mike Tyson. That's truly hilarious. He couldn't even beat an OLD RJJ. J
Chris Eubank is like Canelo? What are you smoking? He had already been beaten by Steve Collins - TWICE - and would go on to lose (twice) against Carl Thompson. He's another example of an empty name - kind of pattern with Calzaghe. In fact, Eubank was 2-4 the last 6 of his career and that's when Joe "fight the trash cans" Calzaghe decided to give Eubank his shot.
His best win was Kessler, no doubt. But then again who did Kessler ever beat? There's another record of mostly no-names and while Calzaghe won that fight fairly convincingly, Andre Ward truly busted Kessler up.
Elite? Not even close. Just a bunch of no-names, has-beens and cab drivers on his record.
moving the goal posts huh? 😂
calzaghe is a welsh fighter that has fought in england scotland denmark germany and america.
yanks dont got the balls to roll like dat tbh... 😃
please remind me why he even needed to leave the uk?
maybe if more of the nobody yank champions fought in europe they wouldn't be so poor and would have more popularity?
and what does chris eubank having losses have to do with anything? 😂😂😂
if he came out retirement today he would sell out wembly stadium bro...
ward fought a shot kessler.
and by "busted him up" i assume you mean headbutted him.
roy jones and bhopper are biiger names than anyone coWard beat 😂😂
lets see you spin that 😃
he beat up roy jones and bernard hopkins all around the ring
like they were nothing but journeymen.
jeff lacy was supposed to be the next mike tyson and he was literally beaten to within an inch of his life.... 😝😝😝😝😝
and are you actually pretending beating up chris eubank i the
90's isnt a big win? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
thats like beating a guy like clenelo now.....
and kessler stole frochs soul.
calzaghe beat a prime kessler.
coWard fought a shell of kessler and couldnt win without headbutting and clinching... 😃
and what does him fighting in the uk have to do with ABSOLUTLEY anything?
which is also a lie
dude fought in germany, denmark and america
you are also probably to much of a spastic to realise uk isnt just one thing.
calzaghe is welsh. so a lot of the time he wasnt ACTUALLY fighting on home turf....
Do you just post for shock value or do you actually believe the incredibly ignorant shyte you post here?
he beat up roy jones and bernard hopkins all around the ring
like they were nothing but journeymen.
jeff lacy was supposed to be the next mike tyson and he was literally beaten to within an inch of his life.... 😝😝😝😝😝
and are you actually pretending beating up chris eubank i the
90's isnt a big win? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
thats like beating a guy like clenelo now.....
and kessler stole frochs soul.
calzaghe beat a prime kessler.
coWard fought a shell of kessler and couldnt win without headbutting and clinching... 😃
and what does him fighting in the uk have to do with ABSOLUTLEY anything?
which is also a lie
dude fought in germany, denmark and america
you are also probably to much of a spastic to realise uk isnt just one thing.
calzaghe is welsh. so a lot of the time he wasnt ACTUALLY fighting on home turf....
Joe Calzaghe fought 43 of his first 44 fights in UK. That is his home turf so stop trying to BS me and the rest of the board. Joe fought at home against mostly nobodies and he did so for virtually his entire career.
He BARELY beat (by split decision) Hopkins when he was 43 years old. Not a prime Hopkins but a Hopkins who was beaten by Jermain Taylor twice and would draw against Jean Pascal a couple of years later. His match against RJJ was even more embarrassing since Roy had been KO'd by both Tarver and Johnson. He couldn't even knock Roy out, something that Danny Green would do the following year. Neither is a victory that is particularly noteworthy given both opponents age. They're names but they're largely empty names. With Hopkins you can make an argument that he was still very good (though well past his prime and not elite). RJJ was DONE long before then.
You must have some great promoters in the UK if you thought Lacy was the next Mike Tyson. That's truly hilarious. He couldn't even beat an OLD RJJ. J
Chris Eubank is like Canelo? What are you smoking? He had already been beaten by Steve Collins - TWICE - and would go on to lose (twice) against Carl Thompson. He's another example of an empty name - kind of pattern with Calzaghe. In fact, Eubank was 2-4 the last 6 of his career and that's when Joe "fight the trash cans" Calzaghe decided to give Eubank his shot.
His best win was Kessler, no doubt. But then again who did Kessler ever beat? There's another record of mostly no-names and while Calzaghe won that fight fairly convincingly, Andre Ward truly busted Kessler up.
Elite? Not even close. Just a bunch of no-names, has-beens and cab drivers on his record.
LOL, dude was definitely great. An all time great? That's debatable but he was the truth indeed.
He’s a British ATG but not an ATG in general. One of the very best fighters we’ve produced in recent years
LOL, dude was definitely great. An all time great? That's debatable but he was the truth indeed.
hes better than roy jones and bernard hopkins and they seem to be rated highly.....
No, he's not a great. He didn't fight anyone decent in their prime outside of Kessler (who Ward DESTROYED two years later) and didn't fight outside of the UK until he took on guys who were known to be past their primes. His undefeated record looks pretty but it's as empty as Anna Nicole Smith's head.
he beat up roy jones and bernard hopkins all around the ring
like they were nothing but journeymen.
jeff lacy was supposed to be the next mike tyson and he was literally beaten to within an inch of his life.... 😝😝😝😝😝
and are you actually pretending beating up chris eubank i the
90's isnt a big win? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
thats like beating a guy like clenelo now.....
and kessler stole frochs soul.
calzaghe beat a prime kessler.
coWard fought a shell of kessler and couldnt win without headbutting and clinching... 😃
and what does him fighting in the uk have to do with ABSOLUTLEY anything?
which is also a lie
dude fought in germany, denmark and america
you are also probably to much of a spastic to realise uk isnt just one thing.
calzaghe is welsh. so a lot of the time he wasnt ACTUALLY fighting on home turf....
does he deserve to be mentioned alongside the greats? did you enjoy watching his fights and was he entertaining?
No, he's not a great. He didn't fight anyone decent in their prime outside of Kessler (who Ward DESTROYED two years later) and didn't fight outside of the UK until he took on guys who were known to be past their primes. His undefeated record looks pretty but it's as empty as Anna Nicole Smith's head.