I think Ruiz has solid boxing skills, good power, is hungry and has the 'killer instinct.' He seized the opportunity against Joshua and now he's atop the heavyweight division. He deserves a lot of credit.
That said, I'm not overly impressed by Andy Ruiz. He's got fast hands, throws great combinations but he seems to be an easy target and his conditioning has always been suspect.
So, does anyone think that Ruiz will have a long reign as HW champion?
I'd give him a 70% chance of winning the rematch.
From there, it depends on who he faces. Fury and Wilder beat him, but he may opt for something cheesy like an optional defence against a Joseph Parker or Fujimoto or something in Mexico City before cashing out.
Ruiz has no chance against wilder or fury ,Joshua losing to him had more to do with Joshua being overrated and ruiz being a bad style for him,he wont get around wilder jab and when he jumps in he will eat a right and go to sleep,having fast hands doesn't mean nothing if your footspeed and lateral movement is slow,fury would dance around him to a decision victory,the same ******s saying ruiz would beat wilder was just saying breazele would two weeks ago,just stop,him and fury is the best in the division and they no it which is why there gonna fight again
LOL at anyone who voted “5+” :lol1:
Does anyone really think that Ruiz will defend his title 5 or more times?
The Joshua fight was a fluke.
One of the votes was from the homie Mexican_Puppet, who is probably contemplating making a thread where he ranks Ruiz ahead of Wlad, Joe Louis and Holmes among greatest HWT champs. lol.
It's very difficult to measure Ruiz' potential. Up to the AJ fight I'd say his only real test was Parker, which was a fight that could have gone either way. The HW division sucks now, so anything is possible for a guy like Ruiz. He will either find a way to keep on winning, or become the next Arreola. I suspect Wilder and Fury would beat him, and Joshua should win a rematch, but who knows what's going on with him? I think Joshua's loss was a combination of poor stamina and not being in it mentally. We'll see how he recovers from this loss.
Joshua’s jab was trash and was keeping his hand down the whole time like’s he’s got Canelo reflexes or something. Ruiz has great speed but a stiff jab from a much larger man should be minimizing his opportunities to even use it. Fury will pot shot him all day and clinch as soon as hes remotely close.
Wilder you never know with that guy. He has a decent jab and you get past it at your own peril.
He’s not going to be an easy out, I agree, but I wouldnt be betting on him either. Id love to be proven wrong though.
He just might be so different than the current top guys that they find his particular skillset and fast hands to be hard to deal with from his height and weight and maybe many of us dont have the foresight to see it giving positive results as we’re used to these giants. Look forward to seeing him try.
You are forgetting that Andy has too much speed compared with Joshua in each movement.
Thats the reason why Joshua was confused, he was nervous because Ruiz was timing his movements with violent and powerful shots.
It's not easy, Andy is fast and he knows how to fight tall fighters. Look the fight against Parker.
It's not that easy like "throw the jab".
Andy has fast hands and landed great counter punches in strange angles.
Andy will be a a hard night to any fighter of the division
Joshua’s jab was trash and was keeping his hand down the whole time like’s he’s got Canelo reflexes or something. Ruiz has great speed but a stiff jab from a much larger man should be minimizing his opportunities to even use it. Fury will pot shot him all day and clinch as soon as hes remotely close.
Wilder you never know with that guy. He has a decent jab and you get past it at your own peril.
He’s not going to be an easy out, I agree, but I wouldnt be betting on him either. Id love to be proven wrong though.
He just might be so different than the current top guys that they find his particular skillset and fast hands to be hard to deal with from his height and weight and maybe many of us dont have the foresight to see it giving positive results as we’re used to these giants. Look forward to seeing him try.
Yea. Its was linked to a BS article.
https://www.boxingscene.com/andy-ruiz-feels-recharged-hunger-back-eager-march-10-return--125149
Thanks brother. Green k on recharge
Idk that he's wrong there. Ruiz won, but idk if he's gonna be the Joshua of the US now or something. He could become a novelty famous guy I suppose. Become some sorta Foreman comeback type famous novelty boxer. But as a serious boxer he's not gonna be taken seriously by most being as fat as he is.
Well yea I don't trust Arum either, but I believe Ruiz even mentioned this on a podcast himself. I know I got him pegged as a emo guy in my head for some f#cking reason lol. I never thought this guy would be on the map at the top of the division for me to have to recall why I got him pegged as the emo fat guy doe.
And I think they've had Jennings for a minute haven't they? Granted that didn't pan out either, but I don't think they've sat Jennings like Ruiz was out for over a year.
I was trying to find info about what was going on with Ruiz during his time off to confirm or deny what I recall with him being emo & the only thing I could find was on his wiki page where he said he took a year off to build houses & play with his investments & sh^t like that.
Forgot about Jennings lol. Though he sat for a year and a half after the Ortiz fight. And even still, easier for someone who looks like Jennings to get a following than some short Mexican BOXER with a 35% body fat and the reach of a LHW
Who knows? I had no idea he was building houses lol.
Are you sure? He had TR fights after Parker & after the year layoff. Then he was out for damn near another year before he popped up with PBC. Idk why TR wouldn't know what to do with a guy who lost. Guys lose all the time. You get them back in the ring or cut them loose.
I recall hearing Bob say dude had confidence/mental issues or some such sh^t & I think I heard Ruiz on a podcast co-signing it. But not gonna act like I'm his biggest fan or was super paying attention so maybe I'm off with some of this idk.
Bob was also criticizing Joshua/Ruiz saying that there’s no marketability behind a fighter with a loss who jiggles when he walks. I don’t hate Arum, but I don’t trust him. I know he’s the original snake. Ruiz got a couple “comeback trail fights” but nothing after that. I had actually thought TR was getting out of the HW game until they signed Fury. After Ruiz left I don’t think they had anyone left?
I think 5 plus if he avoids fury. I'm confident AJ and Wilder get sparked by Ruiz. Usyk would be a dangerous match up too.
Ruiz didnt win by fluke. He's a legit champion. Fast and a solid all rounder.
Realistically any of the giants should be keeping him at bay with a stiff jab. Lord knows wtf Joshua was thinking. Joshua should have pot shotted from range. Wilder will flings jabs and right hands and never engage at close range. Fury is a different animal all together and will do whatever the f uck he wants. Theyve got such a significant length advantage this shouldnt have happened with someone as skilled as Joshua who has admittedly been veeeery inconsistent vs shorter men.
But who knows. He’s a new wildcard at this point til he loses it all. Good for him. Imagine him beating AJ again and then wilder then we see him vs fury in the least aesthetic bout between two men of all time
It's not that easy like "throw the jab".
Andy has fast hands and landed great counter punches in strange angles.
Andy will be a a hard night to any fighter of the division
Definitely not a long reign outlook for Ruiz. I'm putting the over/under at 2.5 defenses. And I think the Joshua immediate rematch is a very favorable 1st defense for him.
This guy has had mental issues in the past. He's not boxed for a year for no good reason. He's fought as high as 290lbs & he was damn near 270lbs last night. This is not a good guy to pin your hopes on long term.
It'd be a cool story if I was wrong & he did become some long reigning HW champion & beat Wilder & Fury in the coming years, but I just can't rationally see that happening with this cat. This fight I feel like is gonna be the Buster KOing Tyson moment of his career & its all downhill from here outside of some sexy looking checks here & there & being more known then if he'd not beaten Joshua for the rest of his days.
His year lay-off was more top rank than anything. They didn’t want to do anything with him after the Parker loss, and then he was trying to get out of the contract.
Once he signed with PBC he said he wanted to start getting 3-4 fights a year, and he just had two fights in 7 weeks and now is the heavyweight champion
Jesus this is some hollywood ****
I agree Wilder KOs him but he still would have defended his title one time. The question is how many defenses he would have so even a losing defense would still count as one defense. If the question was how many successful defenses he would have it should have been word that way.
I'd say 2 with the 2nd losing to Wilder. Ruiz will give any hvw a fight...even Wilder. Joshua might have the hunger to win a rematch, but right now my opinion is that he won't. But I'll read articles and check YouTube to see how his training is going for the rematch and make a real prediction.
At least 2, he'll destroy AJ in a rematch, then probably an easy fight before taking Wilder or Fury.
In a rematch the boxer almost always beat the puncher, in this case Ruiz is the better boxer and the heaviest puncher, lights out early for AJ next time around.
Wins the rematch, loses to White.... But if Al can set up a fight after the rematch with Joshua against Wilder I think Andy has a good shot against Wilder. Remember Duhuapas went 12 (at least 11) with the Tuscaloosa Bomber, Andy's fundamentals are better than Duhuapas. Both Joshua and Wilder are supreme athletes but they are not great at the fundamentals I think Andy's style matches up well against both (better against Joshua with his weak jab).
People counting Ruiz out again. I think be beats AJ in the remach and he's favorable against everybody else in the division besides Fury. I'm positive that he can beat Wilder. who I like very much and is a KO artist, but can be comically outboxed. Ruiz also has the firepower to hurt him bad in the counter exchanges.I agree his fast hands, power, chin and smarts give him a good chance to beat anyone fighting today. Off topic I like to give a green K to good posts but with the new karma setup I find it impossible to do so. Does anyone know how to give green Ks with today's karma setup?
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