Wilder has flaws . What about Joshua biggest flaw glass jaw.

My friend, Ortiz`s best wins are Jennings and Thompson. Oh, and Hammer. How is Ortiz elite win? I agree, Ortiz hasn't had an 'elite' win yet so that's why I rate him below Wilder, Fury and Ruiz.

There are arguments all round though. Wilder beat Ortiz. Fury beat Wlad/got off the canvas v Wilder Joshua got up to beat Wlad, and also beat Povetkin Ruiz just beat Joshua, but lost to Parker. Overally I would say Ortiz has the weakest resume so far, but undoubted Cuban pedigree etc. By resume Wilder is number 1 at the moment, Fury a close second. Ruiz now comes in at 3. My friend, Ortiz`s best wins are Jennings and Thompson. Oh, and Hammer. How is Ortiz elite win?

Ruiz stopped Joshua and this is bigger than anything Fury and Wilder have done. If Ortiz with his wins over guys like Thompson and Jennings is somehow top 5, than is Ruiz clearly N. 1. There are arguments all round though. Wilder beat Ortiz. Fury beat Wlad/got off the canvas v Wilder Joshua got up to beat Wlad, and also beat Povetkin Ruiz just beat Joshua, but lost to Parker. Overally I would say Ortiz has the weakest resume so far, but undoubted Cuban pedigree etc. By resume Wilder is number 1 at the moment, Fury a close second. Ruiz now comes in at 3.

Ruiz stopped Joshua and this is bigger than anything Fury and Wilder have done. If Ortiz with his wins over guys like Thompson and Jennings is somehow top 5, than is Ruiz clearly N. 1.

Joshua is 1 win away of becoming N.1 again. he doesn`t have to fight Fury or Wilder for that. he only has to beat Ruiz jr. Ruiz Jr is not #1. Fury and Wilder should both be ahead of him. Before last night, Ruiz's best wins were against Alexander Dimitrenko, Kevin Johnson, and Siarhei Liakhovich. Plus he lost to Joseph Parker. Wilder and Fury both have way better wins than Dimitrenko, Liakhovich, and Johnson.

Joshua is 1 win away of becoming N.1 again. he doesn`t have to fight Fury or Wilder for that. he only has to beat Ruiz jr.

Joshua has a much worse flaw than his mediocre chin and that is his poor stamina and his lack of self control in light of his poor stamina. He tried to put Ruiz away and when he failed he had virtually wrecked himself

This seems to be the popular opinion and I don't disagree that Wilder might get to him first, but you also have to ask yourself if Wilder would have taken some the shots Ruiz did, or got up from that uppercut left hook in rd 3, would he had his faculties like Ruiz did. I still think it's a really exciting fight, but it's lost it's shine, and Joshua has to get past Ruiz first. Wilder is faster on his feet and harder to hit than Ruiz, and he took some absolute bombs from Ortiz and stayed up. Joshua doesn't move his head enough. He'll get blasted out inside 5 rounds against Wilder.

I still think it's a bit harsh to label any heavyweight as having a 'glass jaw/chin', because these are not featherweight punches being landed, they're getting smashed by 100kg+ guys. But Joshua is so wasteful with the talent that he has. Someone of his stature should be ram rod jabbing the **** out of every opponent, like Wlad used to do. He doesn't know how to tie up and tuck up properly when he's hurt. He doesn't seem to have a killer instinct like Wilder does, which can look ungainly, but when you're a HW, you can windmill or whatever, you catch your guy, he's going down. He doesn't have the same intensity as Wilder or Fury or Klitschko(s) or Holyfield, Ruddock, Lewis etc.

We knew Wilders flaws. His power has always been his eqaulizer. Joshua we knew his chin was shaky but if Ruiz could make him look this chinny Wilder might get that body in the ring if the Joshua fight ends up happening. This seems to be the popular opinion and I don't disagree that Wilder might get to him first, but you also have to ask yourself if Wilder would have taken some the shots Ruiz did, or got up from that uppercut left hook in rd 3, would he had his faculties like Ruiz did. I still think it's a really exciting fight, but it's lost it's shine, and Joshua has to get past Ruiz first.

We knew Wilders flaws. His power has always been his eqaulizer. Joshua we knew his chin was shaky but if Ruiz could make him look this chinny Wilder might get that body in the ring if the Joshua fight ends up happening.