What the hell was wrong with Joshua tonight?

A fighter has one ‘off night’ and now all of a sudden has “deep rooted” physiological issues? Obviously the 'high fiving' and 'hand shaking' are also classic symptoms of a 'deep rooted' psychological issue :D

Something amiss outside the ring. The camp, sparing, PEDS, Personal Life, the scar on the chest, the high fiving and handshaking. All things to all men routine - Hangers on, health concerns, Wilder smashing DB. Aside from the pressure and the weight of the world bearing down on him, there is something else. Ruiz may well have smashed him anyway. But 100% whatever it is, or a combination of factors, there is something seriously amiss. I have always suspected he has masked his psychological character floors. Whatever it is I suspect its deep-rooted regardless of his in-ring ability or otherwise. A fighter has one ‘off night’ and now all of a sudden has “deep rooted” physiological issues?

I thought he was breathing very heavy after the first round lol.

That was definitely concussion. You could see in the corner he didn't know what day it was. With the stoppage it didn't even seem like Joshua realize he was being counted. he actually asked what punch got him 1st and talking like it was a picnic party.....temple shots can really **** you up if it’s landed right....I don’t know what to make of it

Something amiss outside the ring. The camp, sparing, PEDS, Personal Life, the scar on the chest, the high fiving and handshaking. All things to all men routine - Hangers on, health concerns, Wilder smashing DB. Aside from the pressure and the weight of the world bearing down on him, there is something else. Ruiz may well have smashed him anyway. But 100% whatever it is, or a combination of factors, there is something seriously amiss. I have always suspected he has masked his psychological character floors. Whatever it is I suspect its deep-rooted regardless of his in-ring ability or otherwise.

Jack Loew? Is he even still training fighters? Jack Loew, that is hilarious. I recall when he embarrassed himself in the Pavlik Martinez fight. The guy is not very good. Let's not get ahead of ourselves C. Smith is a so-so fighter. He is just another N. Cleverly claiming greatness before he even steps in the ring with a top fighter,

Naz took his beating and loss like a man. Tried to come back in his following fight but realised he didn't have it anymore and retired. Nothing wrong with that. He never quit in the middle of a fight, not sure why you put Naz in that mix. You are correct. My bad. Naz had no business being on there.

I think AJ always felt that a defeat could be around the corner, I remember him on Power 105 Breakfast club interview, and he said yeah I'm the champ, but I have to be prepared to lose, because every fighter loses. I think he accepted this Ruiz loss as inevitable after several of the KD's, which to me was the absolutely wrong way to look at it. He could've still won this fight on an uneventful UD, if he knew how to use his Jab and control the ring. This is even more bizarre because he ate some big shots from both Wladimir, Whyte, and Povetkin and was able not to only recover but be hungry and smart enough to come back. well said he knew he was beatable and never bought into the aura matchroom fans believed about him as for the last part guess sometimes fighters fight their kryptonite when they least expect it it reminds me of the ring magazine articles 'best i have faced' a lot of fighters will name people you havent heard of giving them the most trouble **** like "big billy jones wouldn't move no matter what i hit him with that was a tough fight" thats why you gotta love this sport at times

You are correct. My bad. Naz had no business being on there.

The guy is simply an idiot. His lack of durability will get the headlines but that only came into play thanks to his poor decision making Joshua's trainer between every round - Jab him, stay on the outside! Box him! Box him! For christ sake, BOX HIM!! Joshua - Gonna lunge in face first and throw wild shots. Fans - Joshua needs a new trainer

The guy is simply an idiot. His lack of durability will get the headlines but that only came into play thanks to his poor decision making

Oh yeah I noticed that immediately last night. I was like “Man this guy has speed and skills. He should move down to 200 or 175 after Joshua knocks him out” :rofl: hahaha yeah, if only Andy would get into shape!

Indirectly, Wilder defeated Joshua. :lol1: This guy

when I watched the second time I noticed how easily Andy was smacking away Josh's jabs and especially the body shots. Andy did his homework. Other than the KD, he looked ready for everything that happened. Oh yeah I noticed that immediately last night. I was like “Man this guy has speed and skills. He should move down to 200 or 175 after Joshua knocks him out” :rofl:

Last night I thought we had a complacent boxer who didn’t train, but rewatching the fight I think It was probably that punch to the top/side of the head as he was going down the first time. Every jab after that completely buckled him. I wonder if he has a concussion or something. when I watched the second time I noticed how easily Andy was smacking away Josh's jabs and especially the body shots. Andy did his homework. Other than the KD, he looked ready for everything that happened.

I personally think Joshua suffered the Trinidad effect. When people fought Trinidad they saw a skinny, not buffed, very common looking guy but as soon Trinidad layed leather, people went into shock because they couldn't believe the power. I think the same is true in this case. Joshua was shocked by the "fat boy's, out of shape" power. It's a psychological effect that is much harder to recover from.

Last night I thought we had a complacent boxer who didn’t train, but rewatching the fight I think It was probably that punch to the top/side of the head as he was going down the first time. Every jab after that completely buckled him. I wonder if he has a concussion or something.

The 3rd round took a lot out of him.

Yeah I agree with the face that Joshua went into to the fight to finish it off early like Wilder did. But Ruiz Jr. knew what was about to come and schooled him for it, can't take anything away from Ruiz so I ain't going to attempt to.

AJ is who he is, a manufactured hype job. This is what it looks like when your delusion is shattered. It's not odd, it's not weird, it's not shocking, it is what it is.