Andy Ruiz v AJ - Obese boxer, never fought a 12 rounder

This was a stupid thread BEFORE the fight :lol1:

I haven’t been this underwhelmed for a big boxing match since Mayweather v the Ghost. Ruiz have never even fought a 12 round match before, and is one doughnut away from a heart attack. https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SPORT-PREVIEW-Ruiz-Updated-e1556709550942.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1200&h=800&crop=1 Yet he wasn't gassed like the muscular robot.

I have already posted a thread saying I was wrong, and Ruiz is the real deal. He outpowered, outthought, outhustled AJ ... Man, I don't know how much "Ruiz is the real deal", but I do know (now) that AJ is not... :)

I have already posted a thread saying I was wrong, and Ruiz is the real deal. He outpowered, outthought, outhustled AJ

Ruiz is 6 feet 2 (188 cm). For example Evander Holyfield was 6 2 1/2 (189 cm), and M Ali 6 feet 3 (191 cm). Mike Tyson was just 5 feet 10 (178 cm). Thus, Andy ain't short for a heavy weight, but his reach is only the same as his body length, whereas some of the guys mentioned above had 10 cm (3-4 inches) longer reach than they were tall. As for his body weight, Andy was a big child, and I believe he weighted almost 400 pounds at some time. In his pro debut he was 297 pounds. 268 though was more than I expected, as he's only been that big a handful of fights. I hope he has done his running. As for lasting 12 rounds, I believe Andy can box in a decent tempo for 12 rounds. Just look at the Parker fight. Considering that Andy lost a close decision away against Parker, and Parker went the distance with AJ, I see no reason why AR cannot go the 12 rounds tonight. Does Andy have any winning chances? Yes, if he is allowed to box on the inside and his chin can absorb all the damage he will take, I believe he can actually win by decision. I doubt he has the punching power to hurt and knock down AJ, but AJ has been down before, so who knows? 80/20 or 70/30 for AJ, meaning Ruiz has a chance, and I am looking forward to this match. Ruiz has been a gentleman in his interviews coming up to this fight, and if he wins he has just showed that it is determination and skills that can take you all the way, despite once being a 400 pounds big kid. That he is most likely also a clean fighter, something I doubt about AJ is, means I'd be happy to see Andy win. (Look for example at AJ's neck muscles, they look similar to Holyfield's - not natural at all). So, to the OP and others who thinks this is some sort of a mismatch just because Andy does not look like a pumped up Greek God, please... this is boxing, and in the heavyweight division, who cares what you look like? Andy can box and comes to fight, and that is all I want to see. If Andy wins, it would also be great for boxing. No more of this Wilder/Fury/Joshua **** talk that has been spamming boxing news sites for years now. Winning post here.

Andy shut a lot of mouths last night.

While that’s a convenient story, Dillian Whyte is one of the last people I would believe about anything. Lol. Why not I haven’t seen team AJ respond to tthe allegations. But then again maybe you know better than me. I don’t really follow DWhyte he tries hard but l think he’s not that good more like one of the “best of the rest” but he’s street smart and he talks like he’s Muhammad Ali at times he’s like a heavyweight myorga with more grit.

Its a bad fight. But Ruiz was the best guy they could find at short notice I guess. Blame Miller and Ortiz.

Anything can happen but an out of shape fighter usually cant do sht to a top fighter that actually takes his career seriously. Fat fuks like ruiz are fighters I really dont carry much respect for.

I'm not bothered about the fight either. At least the show goes on I suppose but I'm not buying. If Ruiz had a normal BMI he'd be a middleweight.

Ruiz is 6 feet 2 (188 cm). For example Evander Holyfield was 6 2 1/2 (189 cm), and M Ali 6 feet 3 (191 cm). Mike Tyson was just 5 feet 10 (178 cm). Thus, Andy ain't short for a heavy weight, but his reach is only the same as his body length, whereas some of the guys mentioned above had 10 cm (3-4 inches) longer reach than they were tall. As for his body weight, Andy was a big child, and I believe he weighted almost 400 pounds at some time. In his pro debut he was 297 pounds. 268 though was more than I expected, as he's only been that big a handful of fights. I hope he has done his running. As for lasting 12 rounds, I believe Andy can box in a decent tempo for 12 rounds. Just look at the Parker fight. Considering that Andy lost a close decision away against Parker, and Parker went the distance with AJ, I see no reason why AR cannot go the 12 rounds tonight. Does Andy have any winning chances? Yes, if he is allowed to box on the inside and his chin can absorb all the damage he will take, I believe he can actually win by decision. I doubt he has the punching power to hurt and knock down AJ, but AJ has been down before, so who knows? 80/20 or 70/30 for AJ, meaning Ruiz has a chance, and I am looking forward to this match. Ruiz has been a gentleman in his interviews coming up to this fight, and if he wins he has just showed that it is determination and skills that can take you all the way, despite once being a 400 pounds big kid. That he is most likely also a clean fighter, something I doubt about AJ is, means I'd be happy to see Andy win. (Look for example at AJ's neck muscles, they look similar to Holyfield's - not natural at all). So, to the OP and others who thinks this is some sort of a mismatch just because Andy does not look like a pumped up Greek God, please... this is boxing, and in the heavyweight division, who cares what you look like? Andy can box and comes to fight, and that is all I want to see. If Andy wins, it would also be great for boxing. No more of this Wilder/Fury/Joshua **** talk that has been spamming boxing news sites for years now.

Thread fail the end lol

He also didn’t need a medical exemption like the guy he’s fighting according to D.Whyte. While that’s a convenient story, Dillian Whyte is one of the last people I would believe about anything.

When you make a dumb, uneducated statement, and then get called on it, you don't continue to plow ahead. You make yourself look dumber. To save face you just say, "Fair enough, that was a dumb thing to say..." Laugh it off, whatever. But don't plow ahead even after you've been exposed for saying something dumb and exposed for having a lack of knowledge.

I haven’t been this underwhelmed for a big boxing match since Mayweather v the Ghost. Ruiz have never even fought a 12 round match before, and is one doughnut away from a heart attack. https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/SPORT-PREVIEW-Ruiz-Updated-e1556709550942.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1200&h=800&crop=1 "pro" "athlete" lol neither should be used to describe that lard ass. He is in a cardio based sport. NFL Linebackers are trimmer than that and they only have to run for 5 second bursts.

and Andy didn't need cancer causing PED's to drop the weight. but boxing fans act like this is a damn runway show. He also didn’t need a medical exemption like the guy he’s fighting according to D.Whyte.

He was holding his stomach in at the weigh in. You will see tonight that he isn’t slimmer than his last fight lol. He’s heavier and in the case of Ruiz it just means more fat. He’s about 5’11 and 4ft wide. He could make cruiserweight or even 175 if he wasn’t such a slob He poses like that at all the weigh ins. He looks leaner IMO. In the face, the arms, etc.

The fat a$$ won’t leave the Oreos alone he said his weight would be closer to 250 or so and he comes in at 268.Hes going to use his body odor and sweaty salty body to slime AJ ghostbusters style to get the win.

I thought at both weigh ins he's looked slimmer than I had seen him, and then got surprised when he weighed more. 268 going into the AJ fight, and he was 262 in his last fight, but he looks in better shape than when he fought at 250 last year. He was holding his stomach in at the weigh in. You will see tonight that he isn’t slimmer than his last fight lol. He’s heavier and in the case of Ruiz it just means more fat. He’s about 5’11 and 4ft wide. He could make cruiserweight or even 175 if he wasn’t such a slob

Don't forget this fight was never planned for the US. Joshua was supposed to be fighting at Wembley on April 13. It was never a strategically planned move. So add Wilder, Fury and Whyte (prior to Miller's PEDs) to that list. I thought Miller was the plan from day 1 when they had that awkward face to face at the DAZN launch. I even mentioned it at the time and was called an idiot. even made a joke about how bored the dark skinned guy in the background looks at the prospect of the fight https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W3fanenuVkw/hqdefault.jpg *kanye shrug*